“They’re Taking Our Jobs”How disinformation and lies drive theimmigration debate and what you can doabout itTodd Landfried...
“Its not what you dont know thatgets you into trouble. Its what youknow for sure that just aint so.”                      ...
How’d We Get In This Mess? Partisanship, ideology and fear raise emotions Myths, distortions and outright lies frame the i...
“A salient characteristic of thecurrent debate on U.S.immigration policy is the highratio of hot air to data.”            ...
Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12   5
“A lie gets halfway around the worldbefore the truth gets its boots on.”                   Charles Haddon Spurgeon        ...
Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12   7
PolitiFact Immigration Checks       Pants On                            Mostly                    Mostly                  ...
9 out of 10Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203   9
g           9 out on 10                  of              W rSource: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N =...
AZ FactCheck: Immigration                             Mostly         Somewhat False         FALSE                         ...
9 out of 10Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49   11
g         9 out on 10                of            W rSource: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49   11
“The greatest threat to democracyis having a public that thinks it isfully informed, but really isn’t verywell informed at...
Birthright Fallacy      U.S. Citizen                        Spouse              3 years                 Minor Child       ...
Economic FallaciesUnauthorized       Claim        Reality   Difference Education Costs   $810M        $379M      +214%  He...
Crime Fallacies      Unauthorized                  Claim               Reality   Difference     % in Federal Prison       ...
1,592Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Introduced Bill   16
162Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved   17
10%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved   18
90%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed   19
90%  I L                                        F ASource: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary...
30Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Introduced   20
5Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Passed   21
16%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Passed   22
84%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed   23
84%  I L                                       F ASource: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary,...
Been There, Done That Restrictive immigration laws are not new to our country    Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, The Gentle...
A Disastrous Record of Failure                Oklahoma Taxpayer & Citizen Protection Act (2007) - Oklahoma                ...
A Disastrous Record of Failure Arizona “Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act” - SB1070 (2010)  $5M+ to t...
Sound Good?✓Shrinking workforce✓Significant population loss✓Significantly fewer consumers✓Business layoffs & closures✓Broad ...
They Did ItAnywayAlabamaIndianaGeorgiaSouth CarolinaUtah
Georgia’s HB 87 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Deal signed it on May 12, 2011 Georgia felt the impact within days  Farme...
GA Governor: Use Prison LaborHow many support giving prison laborers this knife?                          12”
Alabama’s HB 56 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Bentley signed it on June 9, 2011 Alabama felt the impact within days  Co...
Quiz Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of...           INSANITY
“Attrition” Laws Don’t Work Local and state immigration laws have not worked anywhere No study exists that shows positive ...
Your Take-aways Bad data = bad policy = bad outcomes Misinformation, distortions, half-truths, lies and fear are driving t...
Getting Involved Works! The approach of building coalitions, public education, proactive media use, legislative interactio...
What You Must Do Stop believing everything you hear - 9 times out of 10 it’s wrong Stop remaining silent - demand changes ...
Thank YouTodd LandfriedArizona Employers for Immigration ReformEmail: todd@azeir.orgwww.azeir.org
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How disinformation and lies drive the immigration debate and what you can do about it.

A presentation by Todd Landfried,
 Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform. Presented at the Unitarian Universalist General Assembly
, June 21, 2012 in Phoenix, Arizona


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  • An estimated 14,748 persons were murdered nationwide in 2010. If the undocumented committed 9,000 of them, that means they committed 61% of the crime. Yeah, sure.\n\nThis was a 4.2 percent decrease from the 2009 estimate, a 14.8 percent decrease from the 2006 figure, and an 8.0 percent decrease from the 2001 estimate. \n
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  • Does anyone watch lawyer shows on TV? What do they say in the courtroom when they swear someone in as a witness? They swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The DON’T swear to tell the truth, most of the truth or half of the truth.\n
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  • The greatest threat to Democracy is having a public that thinks it is fully informed, but really isn’t very well informed at all. Too often in this digital age, we jump right to the debate without having the facts. We need good, quality journalism so we the citizens of the United States, who live in a very complex world are able to say “These are the facts. I know what the facts are and I’m going to make my decision as an informed citizen.”\n\nThree things you need to know about this presentation\nParty and ideology have nothing to do with this presentation. It’s only intent is to present facts. \nIt’s purpose is to challenge false beliefs and preconceived notions.\nThe information presented herein are based on verifiable public data obtained from recognized sources with sources listed at the bottom of each slide.\n
  • EXAMPLE #1: The Birthright Fallacy\n\n1. Bringing in a Spouse, of a US citizen: This is the fastest possible way to become a U.S. citizen - 3 years\n2. Bringing in minor child or parent: This process depends on whether the child is a minor or not, single or married. Minor children can file for green cards immediately, but cannot apply for citizenship status for an additional five years.\n3. Single or adult children and siblings can apply immediately, but the wait times depend on the country of origin and annual limits set by Congress. Typically, the wait is 11-22 years.\n\nNo U.S. citizen can "sponsor" someone to become a U.S. Citizen until they reach the age of 21. The suggestion that U.S. children of undocumented parents can somehow speed up their parent's entry into the country legally is without merit. The shortest amount of time it would take would be 38 years, but likely never. For siblings, it's even worse, taking up to 53 years.\n
  • Example #5 - Jobs fallacy\n\nThese next two slides tell an amazing tale. We’re told to believe that wherever there are immigrant workers, there is high unemployment. These maps shows that simply isn’t the case. \n
  • http://www.dol.ks.gov/LMIS/newsrel/pr1013/map.html\n\nThe other question this begs is what happens to those jobs in the processing plants if ill-conceived immigration laws are passed? What the business owners are telling the legislature and their trade associations, is they will close the plants and move them to where they can get the labor, most likely Mexico. So what impact with THAT decision have on the Kansas economy?\n
  • EXAMPLE #4: How exaggerating data distorts public perceptions of the problem.\n\nThis table highlights some of the more egregious falsehoods told on a daily basis about immigrants in Arizona. The data for Texas is similar, but all highlight the problems of rhetoric of "hot air."\n\nPrison population data: http://www.azcorrections.gov/adc/reports/Zoya_ethnic.aspx\nEducation costs data: Estimates based on larger estimate of http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2010.pdf or http://www.migrationinformation.org/DataHub/charts/MPIDataHub-Children-in-immigrant-families.xls (12.2% or 61,507 undocumented population <=17 yrs x $6,170 = $379,498,190)\nHealth care costs data: Illegal Immigration: Perceptions and Realities, ASU Morrison Inst.\nTax Payments data: “A Rising Tide or a Shrinking Pie,” CAP, http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/rising-tide-or-shrinking-pie \n\n\n
  • EXAMPLE #4 continued: How exaggerating data distorts public perceptions of the problem.\n\nCrime statistics claims don’t match up with reality.\n\nFederal Prison data: http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#2 \nAZ Prison data: http://www.azcorrections.gov/adc/reports/Zoya_ethnic.aspx\nViolent crime data: http://www.azdps.gov/About/Reports/Crime_In_Arizona/\nHate crime data: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr#hate\nID Theft data: http://www.adc.state.az.us/BudgetHearings2012.pdf\n
  • The number of immigration-related bills introduced in 2011\n
  • The number of immigration-related bills passed in 2011\n
  • The success rate of immigration-related bills passed in 2011\n
  • The percentage of immigration-related bills failed in 2011.\n
  • The number of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills introduced in 2011\n
  • The number of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills passed in 2011\n
  • The percentage of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills passed in 2011\n
  • The percentage of Arizona-style SB1070 copycat bills failing in 2011\n
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  • SB1070 has had a brutal impact on Arizona’s economy already, but what would happen if all aspects of SB1070 were passed into law? \n\nSuffice it to say, the economic and jobs damage would be enormous. If SB1070 is fully implemented, the impacts on Arizona’s economy would be worse than during the last recession by doubling the numbers of lost jobs (275,000 to 581,000) and reducing Gross State Product by $48.8B and tax revenues by $4.2B. \n\nThere has to be a better way and there are better ways. What’s important is that you hear about them.\n\nSource: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/03/rising_tide.html \n
  • Farmer’s Branch - http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/carrollton-farmers-branch/headlines/20100409-Farmers-Branch-legal-costs-rise-in-2968.ece\n\nHazelton: http://standardspeaker.com/news/city-loses-appeal-on-who-pays-plaintiffs-1.1060539\n\n\n
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  • "They're Taking Our Jobs"

    1. 1. “They’re Taking Our Jobs”How disinformation and lies drive theimmigration debate and what you can doabout itTodd LandfriedArizona Employers for Immigration ReformPresented at the Unitarian Universalist General AssemblyJune 21, 2012 in Phoenix, Arizona 1
    2. 2. “Its not what you dont know thatgets you into trouble. Its what youknow for sure that just aint so.” Mark Twain 2
    3. 3. How’d We Get In This Mess? Partisanship, ideology and fear raise emotions Myths, distortions and outright lies frame the issue Rhetoric makes scapegoats of government, employers and workers, and families, intimidating them into silence Polarizes people on moral, ethnic and economic grounds Created a “third-rail” issue where any disagreement is attacked and solutions are pushed aside 3
    4. 4. “A salient characteristic of thecurrent debate on U.S.immigration policy is the highratio of hot air to data.” Dr. Douglas Massey Co-director, Mexican Migration Project Princeton University mmp.opr.princeton.edu 4
    5. 5. Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12 5
    6. 6. “A lie gets halfway around the worldbefore the truth gets its boots on.” Charles Haddon Spurgeon 19th Century Minister 6
    7. 7. Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12 7
    8. 8. PolitiFact Immigration Checks Pants On Mostly Mostly FALSE Half True TRUE Fire False True 19 56 33 41 31 23 9.4% 27.6% 16.3% 20.25 15.3% 11.3% Wrong 88.7% 11.3%Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 203 8
    9. 9. 9 out of 10Source: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203 9
    10. 10. g 9 out on 10 of W rSource: PolitiFact.com immigration topic, updated 1/18/12. N = 203 9
    11. 11. AZ FactCheck: Immigration Mostly Somewhat False FALSE Somewhat True Mostly True TRUE False 29 4 8 4 4 59.2% 8.2% 16.3% 8.2% 8.2% Wrong 91.8% 8.2%Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49 10
    12. 12. 9 out of 10Source: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49 11
    13. 13. g 9 out on 10 of W rSource: AZ Fact Check immigration topic, updated 3/14/12. N = 49 11
    14. 14. “The greatest threat to democracyis having a public that thinks it isfully informed, but really isn’t verywell informed at all.” Linda Foley 12
    15. 15. Birthright Fallacy U.S. Citizen Spouse 3 years Minor Child 7 years Sibling 22 years Citizen Child Parents Ineligible Penalty Wait 38 years Siblings Ineligible Penalty Wait 53 years 0 6 12 18 24 30 36 42 48 54 60 YearsSource: U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service 13
    16. 16. Economic FallaciesUnauthorized Claim Reality Difference Education Costs $810M $379M +214% Health Costs $400M $24M +1,600% Tax Payments $257M $2.84B -1,100% 14
    17. 17. Crime Fallacies Unauthorized Claim Reality Difference % in Federal Prison 35% 17.5% +200% % in AZ Prisons* 33% 13.2% +240% Hate Crime Not a problem +68% +6,800% Increase ‘07-’10 Identity Theft 100% 0.9% -99.1%* Includes green card and undocumented prisoners 15
    18. 18. 1,592Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Introduced Bill 16
    19. 19. 162Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved 17
    20. 20. 10%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Approved 18
    21. 21. 90%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed 19
    22. 22. 90% I L F ASource: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, Bills Failed 19
    23. 23. 30Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Introduced 20
    24. 24. 5Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycats Passed 21
    25. 25. 16%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Passed 22
    26. 26. 84%Source: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed 23
    27. 27. 84% I L F ASource: National Council of State Legislators, 2011 Legislative Summary, SB1070 Copycat Bills Failed 23
    28. 28. Been There, Done That Restrictive immigration laws are not new to our country Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, The Gentleman’s Agreement of 1907, The Immigration Act of 1924, and Bracero Program of 1942 Since 2007, restrictive laws have regained favor: All started with one elected or community member with an ax to grind All relied upon the same bad data we’ve just discussed So, how’s that been working out? 24
    29. 29. A Disastrous Record of Failure Prince William County, VA (2007) - $14.9M to train & enforce county officers, increase property tax rate by $0.15/$1,000; foreclosure rate 3X regional rate; business closures up 45% Farmer’s Branch, TX (2007) - $3.2M for lawyers, $5M in settlement fees, increased vacancy rates, lower property values, businesses closed Hazelton, PA (2007) - $1M for lawyers, $2.4M in settlement fees, increased foreclosure and vacancy rates, lower property values, businesses closed
    30. 30. A Disastrous Record of Failure Oklahoma Taxpayer & Citizen Protection Act (2007) - Oklahoma Bankers Association study found the loss of 90,000 unauthorized workers/families resulted in net Gross State Product loss of $1.9B Urban Institute found negligible impact on savings on public services from departure of the undocumented because by law they’re ineligible for those benefits in the first placeSource: A Computable General Equilibrium (CGE) Analysis of the Impact of the Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act of 2007
    31. 31. A Disastrous Record of Failure Arizona “Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act” - SB1070 (2010) $5M+ to train law enforcement $186M in near-term convention and related tourism losses $14.4B loss in Arizona GSP with departure of 30% undocumented workers and families; $48.4B if they all leave 172,000 related job losses $40.7M loss in state tax revenues
    32. 32. Sound Good?✓Shrinking workforce✓Significant population loss✓Significantly fewer consumers✓Business layoffs & closures✓Broad tax base decline✓Foreclosures up, values down✓Damage to business climate✓Loss of investment interest
    33. 33. They Did ItAnywayAlabamaIndianaGeorgiaSouth CarolinaUtah
    34. 34. Georgia’s HB 87 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Deal signed it on May 12, 2011 Georgia felt the impact within days Farmers lost field workers during prime spring harvest season and the state’s Farm Bureau projected immediate losses at $330M Gov. Deal called for impact study 14 days AFTER the law was passed “Pilot” probationer employment program for agriculture failed miserably: needed 11,000 and 14 showed up and seven remained a week later
    35. 35. GA Governor: Use Prison LaborHow many support giving prison laborers this knife? 12”
    36. 36. Alabama’s HB 56 Ignoring previous failures, Gov. Bentley signed it on June 9, 2011 Alabama felt the impact within days Construction industry stalled as workers leave, slowing down rebuilding process following spring tornado storms Long-term growers of crops that are hand-picked are switching to crops that can be mechanized Recent study show community tax receipts are down so low in agricultural communities, they are considering cutting services
    37. 37. Quiz Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of... INSANITY
    38. 38. “Attrition” Laws Don’t Work Local and state immigration laws have not worked anywhere No study exists that shows positive impacts of any local or state- level immigration law All studies show negative economic and social consequences Successful Russell Pearce recall shows sensible immigration reform can be a winning campaign issue Federal reform cannot occur without state and local pressure
    39. 39. Your Take-aways Bad data = bad policy = bad outcomes Misinformation, distortions, half-truths, lies and fear are driving the debate and are justifying extreme and exaggerated actions Arizona’s approach has been tried before and failed everywhere Demand better solutions - our economic future depends on it Encourage others to get informed, involved and say enough!
    40. 40. Getting Involved Works! The approach of building coalitions, public education, proactive media use, legislative interaction and speaking out works Utah - - SB1070 copycat bill DEFEATED Kansas - SB1070 copycat bills DEFEATED TWICE Texas - 108 immigration bills DEFEATED Arizona - follow-on immigration bills DEFEATED
    41. 41. What You Must Do Stop believing everything you hear - 9 times out of 10 it’s wrong Stop remaining silent - demand changes to bad laws Business, faith, legal, and community leaders must speak out together Start publicly challenging false statements and claims Start demanding state and federal candidates talk about their solutions and demand specific timelines for action
    42. 42. Thank YouTodd LandfriedArizona Employers for Immigration ReformEmail: todd@azeir.orgwww.azeir.org

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