Interviewer: Welcome to the last podcast. Today I am speaking with Christine Coh, co-author of
minimalist parenting. Hi Christine.
Christine: Hey, how are you?
Interviewer: Great. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk me. So first of all can you just tell
everybody,youknowin15-20 secondswhat minimalist parenting is because we are going to get into a
lot of details, so.
Christine: Yeah, absolutely. Minimalist parenting I should say maybe perhaps it's not; it's not about
livingwith one chair or no toilet paper. Ocean and I really believe in toilet paper. But it's really a book
aboutlifestyleeditingandonhowto dofree up,degrees free up inyourlife sothat youcan focuson the
things that you care about and are awesome to you and let go of the rest.
Interviewer:Soanybodyhaseverlistenedtothis show shouldknow thatthat's almost the exact kind of
credothat I believe.Sothisisa, thisisa reallythis isgoingbe a goodconversation.Sohow didthiscome
about for so how did, how did were you, how many kids you have?
Christine:I have two. Like I have a toddler very rambunctious toddler two year old and a nine year old
and yeahit'sa biggap and youknow Oceanand I have bothbeenbloggingfora longtime and you know
over time not that we have similar philosophies about things. But over time as each of us were so
separatelypostingaboutadifferentwayof doingthings,awayof takingthingsdowna notch,takingyou
knowpointthe reinsbacka bit,our readershipyouknow separate readershipswouldn't really respond,
it was almost this feeling of oh it's okay to do this. You know I sort of need is a confirmation that it's
okayto do thisand we didn't, I hadthe ideaforthisbooka few years ago and when I asked her to write
the bookwithme she youknow said yes and it was just the most wonderful partnership we ended up.
We just have a lot of shared philosophies and ended up having a really, really wonderful working
partnership on it.
Interviewer: Right and, and I'm so just to be credit wise, so you’re caught in xxx02:03, right and.
Christine: XXX02:04 yes,
Interviewer: Yeah, parent hack switch. I have actually sort of, I have link to before. So really cool blog
and its really cool vibrations you guys got to take advantage of, so how many kids does she have?
Christine: She has two. Her kids are, although I think there are 10-13 they are about so, you know our
plans for a little bit different on kind of what the priorities were and you know twins and so it’s a
Christine: So you could cover that cover the spectrum of babies to twins which was good.
Interviewer:Cool,ok.Sofirstof all I am nothing,ImeanI have yourkindof anybodywhoeitherhas kids
or thinkingaboutkidsreadthe bookbut withoutrehashingtoomuch.I do wantto discuss several of the
concepts you go over in your writing. The first one you tell me about it is food. So I think that meal
planningisalreadydifficultenoughforsinglepeople.Itseemstobe verydifficultforpeople whoare just
couples and have busy jobs. But what do you tell people you know who, who just sort of throw the ir
handsup and theydon'tthinkthat theycan have home cooked meals when they have kids and it's just
Christine: YeahI mean itis challengingandyouknow I shouldsaythatyou know we have this book and
for me it's still it'salwayseverydayisa workinprogressyouknow you don'tjust haven'tsorted out one
day.But withthe foodI thinkyouknowtwo majorthingsone isto automate kind of the pieces that you
can automate. So I wrote this first one definitely calling it crackpots are sexy. You know it really is, I
actually have a, one of my older daughter is a vegetarian, my younger one has a bunch of allergies. So
even though I am a firm believer in like one meal, everybody gets one meal sometimes its little
changing.Sothingslike crackpots,where youcanautomate thingsare reallyimportant. The second one
which point that I have which is a bigger challenge for parents and I think is so important is to really
bringyour kids in the kitchen when you can and have them work with you. You know I've had both my
girlsinthe kitchenwithme from very early on and now my nine-year-old she can make chocolate cake
from scratch, she's made us dinner. I mean there, there is payoff to everything your kid in these
important life skills. It’s really, really important.
Interviewer: That's really cool. So one of the things I am often recommending for people with family
whose is part of my batching fundamental where I tell people that maybe they should just spend a
Sunday for a couple hours in making all the lunches for the week, for instance and making xxx04:28
freeze and divide them up rather than having the scramble at the end of the day to try to really stress
and figure outwhattheyare goingto make eachtime.OK,so that makesa lotof sense.One of the ones
that I am personally interested in is since I have three kids now and I basically resigned myself to not
even consider this for at least a year but traveling.
Christine:Ohyeah.You knowI meanobviouslyyouthree, three is different. You are outnumbered but
your zone defense is a call right.
Christine: Yeah I mean I actually see, I kind of a fan of I traveled a lot when my older one is very easy,
the younger one I travelled a lot when she was a baby. Because you know you just got to hoist her up
and take heraround.Travelingwithtoddlersisdefinitely a bit different. I'm not particularly interested
right now in doing like across-country on airplane trip with either xxx05:23. However I will say that
we've done acouple of like overnight,maybetwohourmax drive type trips lately and she's been great.
You knowI findactuallythatmy little one whoisdefinitelythe rambunctiousone iswaybetterbehaved
when we're on the road and going somewhere and seeing different things. Its, it's been, I have been
experiment with this a lot lately and it’s actually especially inspired me to do more travel. I think you
know,I thinktravel ingeneral is wonderful for kids and for families but for her personally in particular
it's really going to be away from home.
Interviewer: That’s very interesting. I try to experiment particularly but. So what one other thing
obviouslythere'sahuge componentthatcomesup withevenwhere ourkidsbutespecially kids it's sort
of thatwork-life balance.SoIfor instance,mywife andIare justnow basicallygoingtoconsiderputting,
not consider we are going to be putting my older son into daycare a couple days a week and we both
workat home andwe're botharound all time. But we've actually been finding like them he needs that
sort of being around with the kids not so much us. So I found that it was hard for me to like xxx06:39
and I have a trip coming up in a couple of days where I am going to be gone for three days and it's the
first time I've ever been away that long from any of my kids and..
Christine: Oh well. Yeah.
Interviewer: It’s like really hard. Yeah it's really hard. So people have that obviously ever have that
experience todifferentdegreesandatthe veryleastyouknow can be feelings of guilt about wanting to
work or wanting to still pursue the things that you wanted to pursue or new ideas you can come up
with. You know lots of people have startups and they have kids and they have high-powered jobs and
their kids. So how do you, first of all psychologically and emotionally how do you sort of, you know
Coach People on that. How they can look at these things?
Christine: Yeah I mean I think it’s the, that first transition of when you’re sending a child to daycare or
whatever it may be is really hard. So I mean I would say definitely xxx07:29 -07:31, you may be, there
may be tears in the parking lot, and they may be yours. So or they could be your kids and you know
that's normal and expectedandeverykidwill be different.Imeanmyfirstbombboth of my kidsare and
were inyouknowday care. I've alwaysworkedandthe firstone itwouldbe sobbing and crying drop off
something really the drop off that no parent wants to have, the second one you know basically runs
afterthe toys and ignoresme whenIleave.Soit’sgoingbe a differentadifferentexperience.ButImean
I thinkthat youknowI'm a firmbelieverin,in on I've got an entrepreneurial spirit like you do and I'm a
firmbelieverinrunningafterthe thingsthatlight you up and bring you joy and for me well I should say
that my worklife hasnotalwaysbeen thatas in myformerlife Iwasa musicbraineror scientistandwas
not really into that work very much. But since becoming you know freelancing journalist kind of
multimedia creative tech projects that work really does light me up and so it's important for me to go
intothingslike I think it's important for kids to see their parents have passion for things and you know
creative ideasandyouknowI knowthat mygirlsespeciallymyolderone,Imeannow she says stuff like
youknowwhenI growup I want to workwithyouand I wantto be a designer with you and things and I
justfeel like she'slearningthatyouknow she can,it soundsa little cheesyABC after school special. But
you know she's really learning that. She can kind of identify something and go after and I find that
Interviewer: Absolutely I, there is a statistic that I always used to recall when I was younger because I
startedmy firstcompanywhen I was 12 and burnt-out and both my parents are entrepreneurs and the
quote was and I think it was from the nifty, the National foundation for xxx09:25. But basically it said
that something like 75 percent of the entrepreneurs came from households where the father was
physicallyoremotionallyabsentandthe motherwasoverbearing.Sothere isthe,thatrightaway I think
soundslike abad thing but it really actually I think comes out as a good thing because the father being
physically emotionally absent means that you're sort of they're probably absent for reason hopefully
youknowmaybe theyare workingordoingsomethingbetter. Itgivesyousomethingtosortof strive for
I guess and then the mother being overbearing means you sort of have a cushion that means like you
can't do something wrong. So I feel like that's a perfect squeeze for entrepreneurs in a way. But the
pointisI completelyagree thatshowing leading by example is probably one of the best things you can
do. And quite honestly it's probably one of the easiest things that you can do rather than trying to
manufacture something or teach something that you don't like doing.
Christine: Right and you had mentioned the sort of desire self-realize to for, you know your son and I
thinkthat's,it isI meanit isgreat to me especiallyImeanyouhave alot of, now you have three kids but
since the two of them the two younger ones are probably getting and in need of a lot of attention I
meanthat seemslike alsoagoodtime forhimto kindof go andmakesnew xxx10:41 and I'm a fan I am I
think if you also feel the right place you know xxx10:45 for violet the little one is just wonderful. She
actually talks about her friends there and she's two-years-old. So it's, it's really it's nice.
Interviewer:Yeahand we actuallyfoundareallynice place a bit and that was another interesting thing
whichI'm sure youhave a take on especiallysince yousome daycare is there's everyone seems to have
pros andcons about havinginnannyor having are going to daycare or all the different methods of sort
of other than parent child care. And we had a mother's helper for while which was great which is
basicallyisanactual pairof hands.But againyou know we were bothhome andit wouldmake itdifficult
for myolderson if we, like he don't want to be left with anybody. If we were there, why we would he
play with the other person. So I actually originally used to be really kind of not afraid but just taken
aback by daycare because Iwas like Wow,you know I'm here like why wouldn't we just have someone
else in a xxx11:37 all day. But its, it’s actually a really interesting option and I think it’s kind of magical
the one that we found.
Christine: Yeah I mean for the, for younger one and its I got to say the reality is it is expensive and so
you need to, well in Boston, in the Boston area its really expensive and so
Interviewer: Less than a nanny for us.
Christine: Oh really yeah and I think, I mean often at times a nanny solution works if you got multiple
kids and you know you can sort of get the benefit of more kids. But for us our kids are so far apart that
the other ones in elementary school and not worry about paying for that anymore and then you know
the youngerone,thiswasjustthe right optionforher.She needstoget outof the house,she likesbeing
out anddoingthingsand she'sclearlylike the adventurer.Soyou know it's good, I mean it's going to be
different for different children too.
Interviewer: Of course and by the way we have an adventurous side to my, my wife's mile, so I'm
actually the crier if we are going to drop off a kid. My wife's biggest concern is that our son is going to
run away because he climbs everything and he likes open fire doors.
Christine: He's resourceful, he's resourceful.
Interviewer: Yeah, so okay, so shifting a little bit. I want to talk about, a little bit about schedules but
more for the adult side. So is sleep is one thing which I actually don't want to get to but work wise did
youfindyourself waydesignating sort of pockets of time that were work time in the beginning before
they were xxx13:02.
Christine: Yeah I mean I think it always is a challenge but I think it's very important, you know one
especiallyif you're,if you're working out of home in some way to carve out specific windows and have
that help. And it’s also really helpful to have a door to close to sort of separate because in our, in our
Interviewer: Really slippery stairs.
Christine:Yeahyou knowinour lastflatmy office was in the dining room and, Oh it was just a disaster.
But now you know I am in office, I close the door and you know actually on Wednesdays my mom is
here with the girls after school and I can hear, you know Violet is saying "my mom will come down at
5:30". You know she know, but you know she knows like not to go beyond the door. So yeah I mean I
thinkyoudo needto,youreallydoneedtocarve out thingsand I actually find such a productivity guy. I
mean I think that when you have really defined pockets of time you can just be really focused and
uninterruptedyouknow, carvedout,you got helpyoucan justpowerthrough stuff and that's how I am
unlike the laser focused person and I maximize the time that I have. So I can just be, I can be more
present you know when I, when I'm off the clock you know with work and with the kids.
Interviewer: Yes I, I'm the same way. I mean for the longest time I was scheduling all the meetings
between you know eleven and one which was my older son's nap time.
Christine: That’s xxx14:26
Interviewer: Yeah and I've done several calls and a couple of interviews like this with a baby and a
Christine: I understand yeah.
Interviewer: But of course you know 8 p.m. and on hour which fortunately for me was the time that
worked best for writing. But no, it's a very good point and I talk about this a lot, this is actually what I
wantedtoget to because Iknowyou mentionedabout multitasking in your book and one of the things
that I'm alwayspushing people on is to sort of avoid this gearshift mentality where you are constantly
switchingbackandforth between task and it's very easy I feel like for people to be like, oh I can check
my email alongplayingwith the kid or something. But your focus tends to drift from one to the other I
Christine: Oh yeah
Interviewer: So it is very hard yeah. I mean you can certainly work things out. You can you know, you
can probably make phone calls while you're playing you know in a park with the kids. But realistically
beingable toseparate themandsay, okaylookI am goingto do this forminutes and then I'm go do that
isn’tbetter.Soyouhave a whole sectiononmulti,youknow acouple of paragraphs on multitasking. So
just speak about that a little bit.
Christine:YeahI mean,I am at the risk of soundinglike some peopleare in xx15:35 some people aren't.
But it,to thislanguage butI really,really feel like its valuable to both the grownups and kids if you can
be present in whatever it is you're doing. So if you're at work you know be there and you know when
your kids you know be there. And you know I'm not perfect I struggle with it if I know I've got a client
like overmyheadand I'm concernedaboutthat,that is definitely inmymind.ButyeahIreallytryto, my
husbandandI, youknowdo sort of devicesoff likeatdinnerandafterdinner so that before bedtime to
try to kindof carve that out.Andyou know evenwithmytwogirls,now I have realized toIdon’tknow if
youwill come up againstthiswhenyourkidsget a little olderto andsort of more kindof protective with
theirtime withyou. ButI foundthat whenthe babycame my older one end up getting the short end of
the sticklike andso actuallynow I have carved out one day a week after school where it’s the blocking
off inmy meetinglike inmy calendarlike ourcurrentmeeting every Thursday afternoon and it's just us
and we are together and I actually hash tag it that says with Laurel and sometimes I like close the
projectsandyou knowit'sgreat thoughisthat I didthat as a joke.Butthenpeople askedme whatisthis
Thursday with Laurel thing and I told them and other people started doing it and I was so happy. You
knowpeople were realizingthatits,itcan be challengingtodoone-on-onetime withyourkidsbut even
an hour or you know two hours is incredibly meaningful for them and, you know the stuff they
Interviewer: Well and the hash and thing. I actually tell people if they, it's not a bad thing for you to
schedule personaltime.It doesn't mean that you’re that you're like an OCD crazy workaholic. It means
that you're an efficient person that is used to scheduling time.
Christine: Oh yeah.
Interviewer: So why wouldn’t you schedule that time to be free to do things. I think you call it
serendipity moments Right.
Interviewer:Soit's,I thinkthat's a very,veryreasonable wayto pursuitstuff.Like youhave to,if you are
going to expect yourself to be in a productive mindset then you have to stand a productive mindset.
Christine: Yeah absolutely.
Interviewer: So okay, well that’s, it's very cool. So writing is a, I think is a particularly interesting
challenge whenyouhave kids.It'shard,Ifeel like atthe endof the day to or whetheryouknow whether
youare runningdayor not.But it'shard to sort of clickinto a creative mode I guess. So I found with me
with writing my book which is coming out next April. But I ..
Christine: Exciting xxx18:06.
Interviewer: Yeah, thank you.
Christine: Keep me, keep me posted.
Interviewer:Ifoundthat withwriting notebook,Ireally had to sort of go against my nature and outline
things.Because I'mnot,I'm not a good outliner.I'mnota goodplannerwhen it comes to writing stuff. I
would rather just like sit down and just open the brain door and let it go. But I found with that like I
reallyhadto sort of prompt myself rather than give myself, yeah I guess like as ease into it, you know.
So how, what was your methodology for creative, being creative honestly.
Christine: Yeah I mean it's so funny, I feel like we have so many work style similarities it's really
interesting.Butsofor while writingthe book its xxx18:48-18:49 the Artist's Way and I didn’t go through
for programbut whatmy husbanddidand one otherthings thatI thoughtwas really interesting that he
talked about with method is this sort of letting go the inner critic and just writing and I think that is so
important for writers, I mean for anybody who wants to, who had an idea and is maybe scaring
themselves off of the idea before they even give it a chance to grow. So with minimalist parenting
actually I would sit down every morning and again ahead on my counters, recurring meeting, do not
disturb,turnoff all social mediaandI wouldjustwrite foran hour.Andyou know Ocean writing it all on
Google Docs youknow each chapter was separate doc and I just I warned her and I said you're going to
see a lotof braindumping.Thisisjustkindof what I do and a brain dump like crazy and then I'll clean it
up later. And it was just you know I have to say, I know most authors do not say this but writing that
bookwas the mostjoyful process.Itwasso, feel yourself freeandsoopenI meanobviously there was a
topic about which I was very passionate and you know it turned out that Ocean and I also have very
intersecting kind of works style where she's very big picture thinker and I'm very kind of bottom-up
detailsandsothe twothingsreallymergedwell when we wrote. And many people commented on the
fact that actuallysoundslike one voice throughoutwhichIthink is, can be a challenge when you have a
Interviewer: Absolutely and that’s really xxx20:17 actually. It's just sort of brought back couple of
memories from him xxx20:22. So I understand where you're coming from and obviously the work
productwas and I agree itdoesactuallyflow verywell.There is spot where there are pictures of either
one of you in the book.
Interviewer:SohonestlyI don't think I would have recognized the, this sort of shift. So let’s talk about
an obvious one which is sleep.
Christine: Are you low on it?
Interviewer: Well you know what so I am, I am a bio hacker and as part of that I'm always working on,
I've never been a big sleeper ever and I have always been an early riser. I've been working in
construction for thirteen years now twelve years and you know up at 4:15 every morning. So sleep is
nevergoingtobe there for me and there are lots of little tips and tricks that I use to help myself sleep
better and also I look at that I am also fortunately one of those people who could, I mean if I wasn't
focusingIcouldfall asleepinthe middle of thisinterview withyou if Iwantedto I not speaking to you at
Christine: You'll be present in your sleeping.
Yeah. So I am like hit it xxx21:31 I am out and but then I am, you know baby wakes up and that's it. In
fact my sister-in-law and brother-in-law are staying with us and they have a three-year-old and a
anothersix month old and so inthe middle of the night it nearly takes me about good twenty seconds
to realize which baby is crying in the house and if it's one then I have to get up for.
Interviewer: So what, what, how do you kind of deal with that not only deal with the sleep itself but
maintain, you know productivity?
Christine:Yeah.Well Iwill saythat I,this isone area where we differ in that. I love sleeping and I mean
Interviewer: Poor you.
Christine:Yeahpoor me indeed.ImeanIwouldlove inan ideal world to get eight to ten hours of sleep
at night and I would be so happy. But I think that you know if your taking about in terms of sort of
survival for early parenting I think one of the best things that we check, I'm sure I talk about the book,
but one of the bestthingsmy husbandIdid wasto swapoff and so youknow you will sleepbetterif you
explicitlyknowyou're off dutyandwe do this to this day and we when started we know it’s a baby and
we do itnow of Violet.Andeverynightone of us is assigned to get up if the baby gets up and when it's
not mynightI am just,you knowI justlike sleepvery,verywell.AndIthinkthe otherthing was sleep is,
it's a little bit tricky I know. You know you've mentioned the evening hours for working and to some
degree I think if I were left my own devices I would just stay up until two or three in the morning and
workon stuff because Ilove the peace of the house and how quietit is. On the other hand then I get up
the nextmorningandI am a total zombie.SoIthinkit's importantto recognize what your body needs. I
meanclearlyyouand I have individual differencesonwhatwe needandforproductivitysake Ithinkyou
need to figure out, okay it's time you know to go to bed, unwind. If you're somebody who needs a
specific matter sleep for sure.
Interviewer:Right.The service swapoff isinterestingandIwantpeople tosort of take note of that, that
it's not just that you're giving yourself a night off or vice-versa, it’s that you are really setting that
expectation that when you go to sleep you're going to be able to sleep through the night.
Christine: Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer: So I think that's a very good tip. Okay. So can you tell me a couple of technological things
that you found sort of indispensable in terms of being able to manage life and kids.
Christine: You like, like little tech xxx24;04.
Interviewer: Whether it’s a website or a device or something that you found just indispensable.
Christine:YeahI meanI wouldsayright now a couple of things that I actually rely on one is wonder list
for my ‘to do list’.It’safree,I usedtouseoutlookonthisothermachine and it’shorrible and everything
was like locked onto my machine it was horrible. So now I was wonder list for keeping all my xxx24:29
whetheritswork,home youknowit syncs’ up automatically. So I can use it on the web or on my laptop
or on my phone andthat's enormouslyI'mahuge listmaker.I justcan't holdit onmy brain.So it's really
importantto getit all downandboth kindsof lists. I would say if you are, if you're a writer, a creator of
contentand youare a photographeratany level Iwouldsayrightnow my phone,Ihave an update I just
bought.So xxx24:56 I have the GalaxyS4 and the phone is the yeah, camera is phenomenal and so a lot
of the blogging images that I take are just with my phone because I always have it with me. So that's
super handy and also you know super handy for cataloging your kids and I think last year with our
Christmascard all of the photosonthe Christmascardwere frommy phone. So yeah for parents a good
camera and your photos really indispensable. And then Google Calendar Google calendar, with my
husband you know we sync up our calendars not literally. We actually sit down old fashion and talk
through the calendar. But we do these calendar check-ins just to kind of see, you know especially if
things are getting too crazy where we can cut things out. It's really important I think to edit your
counters and to do list as much as you can.
Interviewer:Yeah definitely. We have a sharing calendar for, my wife and I have a shared calendar for
kids’ stuff whichisfoundtobe reallyuseful.That's,those are those are some very, very good tech’s for
sure. So one of the things that what, I'm sorry, the thing that I always ask people at the end of the
podcastis whatare your topthree personal productivitytipsfor,whatare the things that just make you
more effective in you know every day and everywhere.
Christine:Okay,yeahI wouldsaya bigone is and everybodytalksaboutthisbutit'sreallyimportantitis
saying no to things.
Interviewer: Good one.
Christine:Yeahand it'sreallyimportantandone otherthingsthat I as a talk you know I go and to talk to
parentgroups in various things and I have discovered that I think one of the reasons that is so hard for
us to say no is because we don't like to lie and have to make up a really good excuse and so taught
people you don't have to make up an excuse. All you need to do is decline gracefully and just say no.
And once I personally realized that with my own, you know work and personal xxx26:50, I just my,
productivity just shot after I could just bounce back those emails, get them out of my inbox, they
weren'thangingoverme.Soyouknowand thenyou,I alsolike totell people tothink everytime yousay
somethingsaynoto somethingyoudon't want to do as a degree of freedom and an opportunity to say
yesto somethingtotallyawesomeinthe future oryou know take care yourself and or do nothing at all.
You know it's, its huge saying no is huge. I think the second one it’s, it's funny. I, we talk about
outsourcinginthe bookas much as youcan and I recently readan entrepreneurxxx27:26 call about sort
of 80-20 rule and the idea of getting outsourcing those ten dollar an hour tasks and so you know I'm a
bigfan of that too isyou knowI should,Iremember actually one time last year when I was in this huge
just colossal work meltdown. So many things coming down at me and Ocean said "you know Christian
you need to focus on the things that only you can do and then outsource as much of the rest as
possible".Andonce Ifinally,youknowandit'shard whenyouare a control freak, right. But once, once I
starteddoingthat mylife like,itjustgotsomuch betterandthenall of a sudden I had all these creative
ideasthatkeptpoppingbecause theywere all hinderedbythese things that, you know these ten dollar
an hour tasks that I was kind of mired down in. And I think third is to just continually be in an editing
mode with your whether it’s with your calendar or with your to do list or you know with stuff around
you. You know the calendar one is a big one because as parents especially as working people then
parents, you know we get bogged down with a lot of stuff and you know my husband and I try to do
regular check-ins where we look at the calendar and if it just seems too full across a certain standard
time, we just start, you know declining and letting go of stuff and say no that excuses. So those things
haven't been really, really helpful for me on the productivity side.
Interviewer:Sothose were all wonderful suggestions. It goes as saying that I'm a big fan of everything
you just mentioned and outsourcing and automating. Incidentally my number one resources for
parenting, technological resource is Amazon subscribe and save.
Christine: Oh yeah.
Interviewer: Today is Amazon subscribe and save day by the way.
Christine: Do you get a big blow to diapers on your door?
Interviewer: Oh yes and two sizes. We got nine boxes today. I got wipes.
Christine: Oh my gosh.
Interviewer: I got diapers and paper towels and all that stuff. So anyway those are great. So Christine
where caneverybodyfindoutmore aboutyouand the bookisobviousonAmazon.Where can they find
out more about you?
Christine: They can find out more about me at Christiancoh.com. I think ocean has xxx.29:40. But I
should.Imightbe speakingaboutthatxxx29:40. You know my flagshipblogisBostonmoments.com but
youknowit's and it'smore than Boston.So you know it's got a national following which is really, really
nice. But and beautifully redesigned thanks to outsourcing. So yeah you know it's, it's been such a
pleasure to talk to you and you know I, if your readers have any questions at any point just, you know
readersandlistenersjust sync up with me because obviously this is a topic that we're both passionate
about and you know it's important. We all deserve to do less crap and like more stuff we feel happy
Interviewer: Absolutely. Well thank you so much. I really enjoyed talking to you.