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The world of precise coordinates is easy to interact with using software. The problem is humans don't use precise coordinates to represent places. They don't even agree on place names. I will try to ...

The world of precise coordinates is easy to interact with using software. The problem is humans don't use precise coordinates to represent places. They don't even agree on place names. I will try to give an overview of the current existing services/APIs that you can use to find a precise coordinate with a place name. And then demonstrate why we are not there yet.

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    Sylvain Carle People Suck At Naming Places (version without notes) Sylvain Carle People Suck At Naming Places (version without notes) Presentation Transcript

    • People Suck at Naming Places Ignite Where San Jose 2010/03/30 1
    • If a search falls on a map... and nobody is around to map coordinates does it exist? “To be is to be perceived” Awareness. 2
    • Places names are... ๏ Relative ๏ Fuzzy ๏ Temporal ๏ Variable ๏ All about Perception 3
    • Places names are... ๏ Historical ๏ Cultural ๏ Personal ๏ Based on convention 4
    • Humans define places Humans are imperfect, “namespace” of places is really, really, messy. Add politics, religion, ownership, language... #l10n #i18n #hard 5
    • Language and approximation ๏ J’ai quitté mon domicile qui se situe à la frontière des quartiers Outremont et Mile-End à Montéal. ๏ Vers l’aéroport de Montréal, nommé Pierre-Elliot Trudeau, situé à Dorval, code YUL, au Québec. ๏ Direction de la côte ouest américaine, plus précisément vers SJ qui est ma destination finale. ๏ De plus, cette fin de semaine, je serais au WhereCamp chez Google. 6
    • The Cathedral and the Bazaar ๏ Smart data structures and dumb code works a lot better than the other way around. ๏ Often, the most striking and innovative solutions come from realizing that your concept of the problem was wrong. 7
    • One ID to Rule Them All ๏ Three IDs for the WEB kings under the MS, AOL & Y! ๏ Seven for the LBS lords in their halls of stone, ๏ Nine for GIS Men doomed to die, ๏ One for the G Lord on his “non-evil” throne ๏ In the Land of the Internets where the Shadows lie. ๏ One ID to rule them all, One ID to find them, ๏ One ID to bring them all and in the darkness bind them (under a restrictive license). WRONG! 8
    • TIMTOWTDI ๏ Find by... ๏ Lat/Long (duh) ๏ Name ๏ Nickname ๏ Neighbourhood ๏ Proximity ๏ Activity 9
    • TIMTOWTDIBSCINABTE ๏ Lightweight Identifiers ๏ As simple as possible ๏ Distributed (webwide) 10
    • Name Repositories ๏ GeoNames ๏ Geocommons ๏ Placemaker Others? Tweet ๏ Wikipedia/DBpedia Text suggestions to @afrognthevalley ๏ Freebase with #ignitewhere 11
    • Geographic Indexes ๏ OpenStreetMaps ๏ Maps API (you know them) ๏ Open Data Repos Others? Tweet suggestions to ๏ geodata.gov @afrognthevalley with #ignitewhere 12
    • Linked Data & IDs schemas ๏ WOEID (Twitter) ๏ Flickr place_id ๏ Google place URL ๏ Freebase GUID ๏ Geohash ๏ Not 4SQ/GW (yet) Others? Tweet suggestions ๏ but machine tags to @afrognthevalley with #ignitewhere 13
    • Activity Streams Mining ๏ Status updates ๏ RSS/ATOM feeds ๏ ActivityStrea.ms ๏ Explicit ๏ Implicit ๏ Derived ๏ PlaceStrea.ms? 14
    • Most Data Licenses Suck 15
    • Be a Data Hippie 16
    • The World is Messy I like it like that It’s more work It’s more fun 17
    • Bootstrapping ๏ BOF on matching location in unstructured text anyone? ๏ WhereCamp session on Places in Activity Streams... ๏ Machine Tag Exchange? 18
    • Places are Social Containers 19
    • Thanks! ๏ http://afrog.in/ (activity stream) ๏ http://afroginthevalley.com (blog) ๏ @afrognthevalley on twitter ๏ http://code.google.com/p/praized/ ๏ www.praizedmedia.com