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Top 5 Reasonswhy Jesus is notthe Begottenson of GodBy Alama LonzettaResearch by Dr. Brown PHDReligious Studies
Disclaimer    The following material is may be sensitive    to some readers. The intention of this    paper is to educate...
How do we Worship God   There are many ways to worship God, but    as logic tells us, God has chosen a    particular way ...
The Message  All the Prophets of God have described  God as Uniquely One, external absolute,  and has no beginning or end...
The Message These Unique attributes of God are the  exact reason why he’s the only one  worthy of worship Therefore peop...
Exceeding the Limits One  does not draw closer to a person or God by exceeding the reality. What do we mean by that? Jes...
Top 5 Reasons why Jesus is notthe Begotten son of God    The following is the Top 5 reasons why    Jesus is not the begot...
Number 5
Do you Believe Jesus wasBegotten and not made? If   you ask most Christians if you believe in this doctrine to begin with...
Do you Believe Jesus wasBegotten and not made?     Most will then start to back pedal   If you look up the word begotten...
Do you Believe Jesus wasBegotten and not made? 99%   of people will say of course not. They would realize the blasphemy ...
Number 4
It is an evolved Doctrine Derived  in Council of Nicaea in 325, It was  later placed in the Nicene creed Glanadious , th...
It is an evolved Doctrine This  doesn’t mean that anyone who  believes in this is a drunken man; however  when one truly ...
Number 3
Psalms 2:7 Psalms 2:7 says “The Lord has said to me,  you are my son, today I have begotten  you Are we talking about Je...
Psalms 2:7 How  can you have Jesus Christ be the  only begotten son of God when we have  David many generations before be...
Psalms 2:7 Sons of God were known as metaphorical issues and not a literal one In fact the all the Jews saw themselves a...
But Hold On….. Buthold on… What about Jesus? Jesus was the Son of God with a capital S.
Problem with this argument   Problem with this argument is there is nothing    to support it.   The manuscript the bible...
Problem with this argument   The bible is translated from a body of manuscripts.   Right now we have over 5400 manuscrip...
Number 2
The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten   This word Mono-genes is found 9 times in the    bible    3 times in Luk...
The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten But  when this same word is used in Luke  it’s not translated as only bego...
The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten The  word is found 9 times in the bible Again, 3 times mentioned in Luke ...
The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten The   9th time is in Hebrews 11:17. This is important because is talking ...
The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten    Well Ismael wasn’t really considered his son,    because it was with Ha...
The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten Why  do we read these verses? Because in these passages God  recognized I...
So what are we actuallysaying.. What   does it mean that Jesus is the son of  God? Kats have kittens, dogs have puppies....
So what are we actuallysaying..  At this point every one’s own personal  opinion comes in to play. People explain it  in ...
So what are we actuallysaying..   That means they are co-eternal, but how can    a son be eternal, if he comes from the F...
So what are we actuallysaying..    If Jesus had Godly powers himself he    wouldn’t call on or pray to God.   To pray to...
Number 1
Don’t listen to me , Just askyour Bible   The NIV, NRSV, The Good news Bible, The    Jerusalem Bible and many others have...
Don’t listen to me , Just askyour Bible   But no I grew up on the King James Bible.   The problem with this argument is ...
Don’t listen to me , Just askyour Bible Sothe newer Bibles are agreed upon by a coalition of different Christian groups a...
So Who was Jesus?   He was exactly what he said he was.   He was a Man.   He was Prophet barring revelation from God. ...
FinalComments…Leveltruth.com   I hope and pray that one can review the    following information and reflect on what it   ...
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  • Those who don't Believe that JESUS IS THE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD IS WORST THAN The devil because the bible says in James.2:19 that even the devil believed that JESUS is the don of GOD and even trembles.The devil is bound to hell.The Atheist have no where to go.Christians who believed that Jesus is God will go to heaven. Atheist are the most miserable in the day of judgement so repent while there's time and you will be save from eternal damnation.damnation.
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  • Those who who dose (JUDAS) not believe that JESUS IS THE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD is WORST than the DEVIL because the devil believes that JESUS is God and even trembles.Stan is bound to HELL....and Christians who believed JESUS will be in heaven..The ATHEIST have no where to go.,your the most miserable in the day of judgement.repent and thou shall be saved from eternal damnation.
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  • Be sincere and honest to yourself. Seek the truth.. Study your bible and read our Quran.. Judge for yourself... Ask Allah for guidance... Don't gamble with your faith... May Allah guide your decision
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  • @jakespooner142 The video is actually very inaccurate. Would you watch Hannah Montana and say it is an awful account about the life of Emily Osment? Emily Osment is in it, and her name is shown in the beginning of every episode, but it is not about her. The bible is not a science textbook. Genesis is not supposed to be taken literally. There are two creation stories that each have meanings to them. Obviously Adam and Ave could not have had two sons and they created the world. There are two creation stories in the bible meant to teach us about God. Many people do claim to be Catholic and do not understand this. If you watch that video and do not believe in God, then you were not that faithful and educated in your religion to begin with.
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  • Test your Faith! Read entire link. You may never believe in God again! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAURq_ouYLc
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  1. 1. Top 5 Reasonswhy Jesus is notthe Begottenson of GodBy Alama LonzettaResearch by Dr. Brown PHDReligious Studies
  2. 2. Disclaimer The following material is may be sensitive to some readers. The intention of this paper is to educate my brothers and sisters and not to insult anyone or any religion.
  3. 3. How do we Worship God There are many ways to worship God, but as logic tells us, God has chosen a particular way for us to worship him. He has chosen the best people of all time and has given them Prophet Hood. God has chosen these Prophets to declare Gods message to humanity and the way we have to submit to him.
  4. 4. The Message All the Prophets of God have described God as Uniquely One, external absolute, and has no beginning or end. They have described God as one with no partners as well as the creator of everything in the Universe.
  5. 5. The Message These Unique attributes of God are the exact reason why he’s the only one worthy of worship Therefore people in general have to make the effort to try to understand and study these Prophets so that we understand how too worship God.
  6. 6. Exceeding the Limits One does not draw closer to a person or God by exceeding the reality. What do we mean by that? Jesus Christ called himself the son of Man; others called himself the son God. If he is identifying himself as the son of man, you’re not going to draw closer to the prophet by making him more than what he is.
  7. 7. Top 5 Reasons why Jesus is notthe Begotten son of God The following is the Top 5 reasons why Jesus is not the begotten son of God.
  8. 8. Number 5
  9. 9. Do you Believe Jesus wasBegotten and not made? If you ask most Christians if you believe in this doctrine to begin with , do you believe that Jesus was begotten and not made? Most will say yes its part of my religion, yes Yes it’s part of your religion but do you believe it?
  10. 10. Do you Believe Jesus wasBegotten and not made? Most will then start to back pedal If you look up the word begotten in Merriam Webster’s dictionary, Its says begotten means to procreate as the father, it implies the cardinal element of sex. Are you saying that you actually believe that God had sex with Marry to have Jesus? Is that what you’re saying when you mean begotten and not made?
  11. 11. Do you Believe Jesus wasBegotten and not made? 99% of people will say of course not. They would realize the blasphemy of that claim So then they would begin to change their position If this is what begotten means, and you don’t believe that to mean the procreation of the father like the definition says it is, then why do you believe in it?
  12. 12. Number 4
  13. 13. It is an evolved Doctrine Derived in Council of Nicaea in 325, It was later placed in the Nicene creed Glanadious , the patriarch of Constantinople when he heard the Council of Nicaea’s decision of the matter said “ These are the words of a drunken man”.
  14. 14. It is an evolved Doctrine This doesn’t mean that anyone who believes in this is a drunken man; however when one truly analyzes the statement for somebody who sits down and thinks about these words with an open heart and open mind, the vast majority of mankind would say they wouldn’t accept this.
  15. 15. Number 3
  16. 16. Psalms 2:7 Psalms 2:7 says “The Lord has said to me, you are my son, today I have begotten you Are we talking about Jesus Christ? No. We’re talking about David The doctrine of Jesus being begotten not made, is not just that Jesus Christ was begotten not made, but he was the only Begotten son of God
  17. 17. Psalms 2:7 How can you have Jesus Christ be the only begotten son of God when we have David many generations before being told he was the only begotten son of God? Actually the bible has sons by the tons. Many passages speak of the sons of Gods, and the children of God.
  18. 18. Psalms 2:7 Sons of God were known as metaphorical issues and not a literal one In fact the all the Jews saw themselves as the children of God. Sons and daughters of God. That was the status they conceived for themselves. This was a metaphorical issue and not a literal one.
  19. 19. But Hold On….. Buthold on… What about Jesus? Jesus was the Son of God with a capital S.
  20. 20. Problem with this argument Problem with this argument is there is nothing to support it. The manuscript the bible is translated from is the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek manuscripts and there was no capitalization of any these manuscripts Whenever you read the bible and see any letter capitalized, even the beginning of sentences, these letters were not capitalized in the manuscripts which the bible was translated
  21. 21. Problem with this argument The bible is translated from a body of manuscripts. Right now we have over 5400 manuscripts None of them have capital letters The capitalization is something people have put in Sometimes as a device to emphasize to what they wanted to emphasize, but that’s not being sincere towards the scripture A lot people get turned off by religion because they see people play with religion. This is one of those cases. As people are adding or removing things to the bible.
  22. 22. Number 2
  23. 23. The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten This word Mono-genes is found 9 times in the bible 3 times in Luke: 7:12, 8:42 and 9:38 In all 3 of these passages it’s not talking about Jesus Christ but other individuals, and it’s not translated as the only begotten son. This is the same word, but when found in John it’s translated as the only begotten son
  24. 24. The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten But when this same word is used in Luke it’s not translated as only begotten This is another example of people playing with scripture adding and taking away what they want which in the end turns people away from religion. There is an inconsistency with translation. You have to ask yourself why?
  25. 25. The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten The word is found 9 times in the bible Again, 3 times mentioned in Luke which is not translated to only begotten and is referenced towards people other than Jesus 5 times in John, 4 times in the gospel of John, 1 time in John 1.. In those 5 instances, it refers to Jesus as the only begotten.
  26. 26. The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten The 9th time is in Hebrews 11:17. This is important because is talking about Isaac. Isaac is Mono-genes Now why is that important? It’s important because Ismael was born 14 years before Isaac How can Isaac be the only begotten son if Ismael was 14 years old when Isaac was born?
  27. 27. The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten Well Ismael wasn’t really considered his son, because it was with Hagar and not Sarah. This argument is invalid, because at the time polygamy was allowed, and Hagar was taken as a wife. David and Solomon had a lot of wives If you question that Ismael was not a real son of Abraham then just look up Genesis 16:11, 16:15, 17:7, 17:23, and 17:25.
  28. 28. The word Mono-genestranslated as only begotten Why do we read these verses? Because in these passages God recognized Ismael as Abraham’s son If God is recognizing Ismael as Abraham’s son 14 years before Isaac was born how can Isaac be the only begotten son?
  29. 29. So what are we actuallysaying.. What does it mean that Jesus is the son of God? Kats have kittens, dogs have puppies. What does it mean for God to have a son? Does God have a baby God? Is he a number two God?
  30. 30. So what are we actuallysaying.. At this point every one’s own personal opinion comes in to play. People explain it in different ways If we truly look at it honestly, no one really understands the concept According to the Trinity Doctrine, Jesus and God are co-equal, co-eternal, and of the same substance.
  31. 31. So what are we actuallysaying.. That means they are co-eternal, but how can a son be eternal, if he comes from the Father This was an early argument from the Unitarian priest Arias who basically said if you’re going to call him the son, you can’t call him eternal. Because the son comes from the father. How can they be of the same substance? How can they be co-equal? One prays to the other. Jesus prayed to God.
  32. 32. So what are we actuallysaying.. If Jesus had Godly powers himself he wouldn’t call on or pray to God. To pray to God means you’re in need of God. The purpose of Prayer is to ask God to do something for you. If you have Godly powers you do anything you want. So one sincerely reflects on this they will realize that it does not make sense.
  33. 33. Number 1
  34. 34. Don’t listen to me , Just askyour Bible The NIV, NRSV, The Good news Bible, The Jerusalem Bible and many others have recognized the arguments presented and have removed this from their biblical texts. The NIV and Revised Standard Version are the most sold and authentic bibles in the history of mankind You will find the biblical scholars themselves have removed this from their texts.
  35. 35. Don’t listen to me , Just askyour Bible But no I grew up on the King James Bible. The problem with this argument is that King James Version was written in 1611. That’s 400 years old. There were many biblical texts found after that. The earliest biblical texts ever discovered were the codex vaticanis and the codex sanatacus, and they were discovered after the King James Version was written.
  36. 36. Don’t listen to me , Just askyour Bible Sothe newer Bibles are agreed upon by a coalition of different Christian groups and they agree on the New Revised Standard Version.
  37. 37. So Who was Jesus? He was exactly what he said he was. He was a Man. He was Prophet barring revelation from God. He was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He was there to bring them back from their deviation and to provide a revelation to keep the people on the correct path.
  38. 38. FinalComments…Leveltruth.com I hope and pray that one can review the following information and reflect on what it has to say. I hope that one can take the courage to search for the truth, and to not follow any belief blindly. More info on the subject may be viewed at Leveltruth.com The following research was put together by Dr. Brown PHD. Religious studies.
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