Bad Poetry: Sam Pepys vs. Margaret Cavendish
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Bad Poetry: Sam Pepys vs. Margaret Cavendish

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A silly little PP that can be applied to poetry writing, breaking down texts for meaning, or lessons on Mr. Pepys.

A silly little PP that can be applied to poetry writing, breaking down texts for meaning, or lessons on Mr. Pepys.

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    Bad Poetry: Sam Pepys vs. Margaret Cavendish Bad Poetry: Sam Pepys vs. Margaret Cavendish Presentation Transcript

    • Margaret Cavendish - The Duchess of Newcastle - “ What is Liquid?”
      • Margaret!
      • Politician!
      • Exile!
      • Poet!
      • Wife!
      • Feminist!
    • Margaret Lucas Cavendish The Duchess of Newcastle 1623 - 1673
      • A Royalist during English Civil War, Margaret Lucas was Maid of Honor to Queen Henrietta Maria from 1643 to 1645.
      • While in exile with the Queen, Lucas met and married William Cavendish, a leader of the Royalist forces and thirty years her senior1.
      • After the Restoration, Maggie and Bill Cavendish, now the Duke and Duchess of Newcastle, retired from court life.
      • Happily married by all accounts to an emotionally and financially supportive husband, Newcastle nonetheless chafed at the educational and professional opportunities available to women and railed against the unequal power in domestic relations.
    • I thought you claimed she was a poet as well! Isn’t this supposed to be about a poem or something?
      • Mr. Samuel Pepys
      • Diarist and former citizen of England
      • -Now dead. No longer an active citizen.
    • The poetry of Margaret Cavendish had the honor of being described by Samuel Pepys as… “ ...the most ridiculous thing that ever was wrote." He also described her as personally being… "mad, conceited and ridiculous".
      • You be the judge…
      • What is Liquid?
      • All that doth flow we cannot liquid name Or else would fire and water be the same; But that is liquid which is moist and wet Fire that property can never get. Then 'tis not cold that doth the fire put out But 'tis the wet that makes it die, no doubt.
      • What the…?
      • All that doth flow we cannot liquid name
      • Or else would fire and water be the same;
      • Meaning:
      • You can’t call everything that flows liquid
      • Or fire would have to be a liquid too;
      • What the…?
      • But that is liquid which is moist and wet Fire that property can never get.
      • Meaning:
      • But liquid is wet and you can’t get fire wet!
      • What the…?
      Then 'tis not cold that doth the fire put out But 'tis the wet that makes it die, no doubt. Meaning: At that point, it’s not the fire getting rid of the cold But the wet getting rid of the fire.
    • To sum up…
      • What is liquid?
      • You can’t call everything that flows liquid
      • Or fire would have to be a liquid too;
      • But liquid is wet and you can’t get fire wet!
      • At that point, it’s not the fire getting rid of the cold
      • But the wet getting rid of the fire.
    • Bad or Brilliant?
      • And the winner is…
      I’m da bomb! You’re a looney!
    • Sammy “The Quill” Pepys!! “ What is Liquid?” It is bad poetry that’s what it is. “… No doubt.” Proving, once again, that it doesn’t have to be good to be a classic!
      • So, there.