How congress is signing its own arrest warrents in the ndaa citizen arrest bill by naomi wolf org


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How Congress is Signing its Own Arrest Warrents in the NDAA Citizen Arrest Bill by Naomi Wolf

Published: December 12th, 2011
Author: naomi

I never thought I would have to write this: but—incredibly—Congress has now passed the National Defense Appropriations Act, with Amendment 1031, which allows for the military detention of American citizens. The amendment is so loosely worded that any American citizen could be held without due process. The language of this bill can be read to assure Americans that they can challenge their detention — but most people do not realize what this means: at Guantanamo and in other military prisons, one’s lawyer’s calls are monitored, witnesses for one’s defense are not allowed to testify, and one can be forced into nudity and isolation. Incredibly, ninety-three Senators voted to support this bill and now most of Congress: a roster of names that will live in infamy in the history of our nation, and never be expunged from the dark column of the history books.

They may have supported this bill because—although it’s hard to believe—they think the military will only arrest active members of Al Qaida; or maybe, less naively, they believe that ‘at most’, low-level dissenting figures, activists, or troublesome protesters might be subjected to military arrest. But they are forgetting something critical: history shows that those who signed this bill will soon be subject to arrest themselves.

Our leaders appear to be supporting this bill thinking that they will always be what they are now, in the fading light of a once-great democracy — those civilian leaders who safely and securely sit in freedom and DIRECT the military. In inhabiting this bubble, which their own actions are about to destroy, they are cocooned by an arrogance of power, placing their own security in jeopardy by their own hands, and ignoring history and its inevitable laws. The moment this bill becomes law, though Congress is accustomed, in a weak democracy, to being the ones who direct and control the military, the power roles will reverse: Congress will no longer be directing and in charge of the military: rather, the military will be directing and in charge of individual Congressional leaders, as well as in charge of everyone else — as any Parliamentarian in any society who handed this power over to the military can attest.

Perhaps Congress assumes that it will always only be ‘they’ who are targeted for arrest and military detention: but sadly, Parliamentary leaders are the first to face pressure, threats, arrest and even violence when the military obtains to power to make civilian arrests and hold civilians in military facilities without due process. There is no exception to this rule. Just as I traveled the country four years ago warning again

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  1. 1. ABOUT BLOG WORKS MEDIA RESOURCES CONTACT search Published: December 12th, 2011 Author: naomi 223 CommentsI never thought I would have to write this: but—incredibly—Congress has now passed the NationalDefense Appropriations Act, with Amendment 1031, which allows for the military detention of Americancitizens. The amendment is so loosely worded that anyAmerican citizen could be held without dueprocess. The language of this bill can be read to assure Americans that they can challenge theirdetention — but most people do not realize what this means: at Guantanamo and in other militaryprisons, one’s lawyer’s calls are monitored, witnesses for one’s defense are not allowed to testify, and The Streets ofone can be forced into nudity and isolation. Incredibly, ninety-three Senators voted to support this bill 2012and now most of Congress: a roster of names that will live in infamy in the history of our nation, andnever be expunged from the dark column of the history books.They may have supported this bill because—although it’s hard to believe—they think the military will Jesus was the Original...only arrest active members of Al Qaida; or maybe, less naively, they believe that ‘at most’, low-level As the world awaits thedissenting figures, activists, or troublesome protesters might be subjected to military arrest. 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The moment this bill becomes law, though Congress is I never thought Iaccustomed, in a weak democracy, to being the ones who direct and control the military, the power roles would have to write this: butwill reverse: Congress will no longer be directing and in charge of the military: rather, the military will be —incredibly—Congressdirecting and in charge of individual Congressional leaders, as well as in charge of everyone else — as has now passed...any Parliamentarian in any society who handed this power over to the military can attest.Perhaps Congress assumes that it will always only be ‘they’ who are targeted for arrest and militarydetention: but sadly, Parliamentary leaders are the first to face pressure, threats, arrest and evenviolence when the military obtains to power to make civilian arrests and hold civilians in military facilitieswithout due process. There is no exception to this rule. Just as I traveled the country four years ago Its nice to see an informedwarning against the introduction of torture and secret prisons – and confidently offering a hundred person who understandsthousand dollar reward to anyone who could name a nation that allowed torture of the ‘other’ that did not how to dig up the truth,eventually turn this abuse on its own citizens — (confident because I knew there was no such place) — revealing the truth despiteso today I warn that one cannot name a nation that gave the military the power to make civilian arrests any risks it may or may notand hold citizens in military detention, that did not almost at once turn that power almost against put you at.. thank-you... I livemembers of that nation’s own political ruling class. This makes sense — the obverse sense of a in Canada so while it is ademocracy, in which power protects you; political power endangers you in a militarized police state: the seperate country, Canadamore powerful a political leader is, the more can be gained in a militarized police state by pressuring, sometiems acts like thethreatening or even arresting him or her. sibling of the USAso what happens there will at leastMussolini, who created the modern template for fascism, was a duly elected official when he started to indirectly affect us, if not indirect paramilitary forces against Italian citizens: yes, he sent the Blackshirts to beat up journalists, fact directly.... thankyou foreditors, and union leaders; but where did these militarized groups appear most dramatically and your work...terrifyingly, snapping at last the fragile hold of Italian democracy? In the halls of the Italian Parliament. Posted byWhom did they physically attack and intimidate? Mussolini’s former colleagues in Parliament — as they April-Annasat, just as our Congress is doing, peacefully deliberating and debating the laws. Whom did Hitler’sBrownshirts arrest in the first wave of mass arrests in 1933? Yes, journalists, union leaders andeditors; but they also targeted local and regional political leaders and dragged them off to secretprisons and to torture that the rest of society had turned a blind eye to when it had been directed at the‘other.’ Who was most at risk from assassination or arrest and torture, after show trials, in Stalin’sRussia? Yes, journalists, editors and dissidents: but also physically endangered, and often arrested bymilitarized police and tortured or worse, were senior members of the Politburo who had fallen out offavor.Is this intimidation and arrest by the military a vestige of the past? Hardly. We forget in America that allover the world there are militarized societies in which shells of democracy are propped up — in whichParliament meets regularly and elections are held, but the generals are really in charge, just as theEgyptian military is proposing with upcoming elections and the Constitution itself. That is exactly whatwill take place if Congress gives the power of arrest and detention to the military: and in those societiesif a given political leader does not please the generals, he or she is in physical danger or subjected tomilitary arrest. Whom did John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, say he was converted by
  2. 2. military arrest. Whom did John Perkins, author of Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, say he wasdirected to intimidate and threaten when he worked as a ‘jackal’, putting pressure on the leadership inauthoritarian countries? Latin American parliamentarians who were in the position to decide the lawsthat affected the well-being of his corporate clients. Who is under house arrest by the military inMyanmar? The political leader of the opposition to the military junta. Malalai Joya is an Afghaniparliamentarian who has run afoul of the military and has to sleep in a different venue every night — forher own safety. An on, and on, in police states — that is, countries with military detention of civilians —that America is about to join.US Congresspeople and Senators may think that their power protects them from the treacherouswording of Amendments 1031 and 1032: but their arrogance is leading them to a blindness that issuicidal. The moment they sign this NDAAinto law, history shows that they themselves and their staffare the most physically endangered by it. They will immediately become, not the masters of the greatmight of the United States military, but its subjects and even, if history is any guide — and every singleoutcome of ramping up police state powers, unfortunately, that I have warned for years that historypoints to, has come to pass — sadly but inevitably, its very first targets.LINKS:National Defense Appropriations ActIndefinite military detention for U.S. citizens now in the hands of a secretive conference committeeDecember 8, 2011 – by Donny Shaw More posts by: naomi Jeff Roberts December 12, 2011 at 8:25 pm Excellent job, Naomi! What use could Congress possibly be to a police state? And if we go back to the rule of law as defined by our great Constitution, then they’ll be known as traitors! There is no future for thoseCongressmen that supported this! Just as there was no future for Hitler at the end ofWW2! An old Chinese proverb states, “may you live in interesting times!” Certainly, we aretoday! Reply Christian Priest December 12, 2011 at 8:58 pm With the direction things are going at the the moment, that’s a big ‘if’ on things reverting to their former constitutional stability. I think the best case scenario would be a post Nazi Germany situation, worst case could lean more in the direction of North Korea. Which isn’t such an off the wall conception. Fear is a very powerful tool which has been wielded in this manner countless times before. On the flip-side, the truth is equally powerful and I salute those like you, who keep the public informed about the truths that are obscured daily by the present regime (if you will). The only hope for the survival of our democracy is an informed, focused and unified population. It’s a very sad thing to behold what’s become of the once shimmering vision for this nation that was conceived by our forefathers. Reply Duke December 15, 2011 at 6:25 am converted by
  3. 3. Christian, We live in a Republic & not a Democracy. Democracy is Mob rule. A Republic protects the minority. Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:25 am Democracy is not mob rule. Mob rule is carried by fear and the unknown. Democracy is carried by knowledge and understanding. Now that being said democracy canbe a tool to which can create mob rule, like what GWB and Karl Rovedid in 2000 and in 2004 where the uniformed, the bigoted and thehaters where driven by fear which created mob rule. Democracy onlyworks well when everyone is informed of the truths and lies of oursociety. The truth is our Republic, for far too long, has been under theweight of very evil men and women, specifically those who would allowharm to others. Fear is not an option Americans can afford from thispoint on. Fear creates mob rule and the GOP knows it. Put them all injail. Don’t forget those blue dawgs too. Reply SaSSantSo December 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm Democracy IS mob rule. Before you respond to debate someone, you need to know everything on a subject matter. You obviously don’t. Democracy has been long known as the gate to Socialism. Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Communitarianism, are all Socialism simply by definition of the big government.. Our founding fathers gave us a Constitutional Republic (if we can keep it). A Constitutional Republic is by Rule of Law as opposed to a Democracy where Social Justice and Collectivism of the majority equals Mob Rule and ushers in Communism or Fascism. Same thing… in one, owner of all is government. In the other, government is in bed with monopolies. See Mussolini and then Hitler. 100s of millions of people died bcs of one Socialism or another. Jeff Roberts December 22, 2011 at 6:48 am @SaSSantSo: Completely agree with you! Our Constitutional Republic was designed to allow us to be ruled by laws not by men. Our Constitution was created to limit the government actions. The term “democracy” is preferred, however, by those in power, because if the people can be terrorized by everyday crimes or false flag events, then it’s known that theyll be willing to exchange freedom for security. If the people have an internal restraint, like a peaceful religion or strong morals, then a democracy can be an open, free society. But, in a society without internal constraints, that democracy slides toward a police state. God has been marginalized for decades in this country and that internal constraint has been removed. More than even the “right laws”, we need for our country to be healed and restored with God. I’m not giving excuses for the crimes committed by the converted by
  4. 4. Feds. But, we can’t blame every horrible crime on them. Weshould also face the reality that pulling God out of the schools,government and our daily lives has not given us any freedom. carlc55 January 1, 2012 at 1:26 am You are absolutely wrong there Ben – Democracy is the majority overruling the minority – by as litlle as 1 vote. And the mob is themajority. January 1, 2012 at 2:38 am For myFFF Liberty Democracy IS Mob Rule….Maybe you should listen to the explanation of what what a Republic and what other forms of Government are…. Knowitall January 1, 2012 at 8:06 am When Ben Franklin exited the Constitutional Convention he was ask, what form of government have you given us. His response reflected thedelicate nature of their genius experiment. “A Republic, he said;If You Can Keep It!”Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standingarmy, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. JamesMadison.History can teach us. Charles January 1, 2012 at 11:41 am Ben, Are you implying that this is the work of the Republicans, and that the Democrats fought it?Also, democracy is rule by majority and does not imply anyspecific rules or safeguards of individual rights. It is mob rule,and the “knowlege” that fuels it is propaganda. Larry January 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm Ben, I certainly believe that there is enough blame to go around, but I do disagree with you on some points. I’ve read where some of ourFounding Fathers described democracy as one of the mostdamnable forms of government ever created. When I was a boy,I cannot remember the word democracy in the pledge ofallegiance. We are/were meant to be a Constitutional Republic.This next part is where I feel that “they” get us every time. Ibelieve that there are very powerful people that have created anus versus them type of mentality. Whereas the real truth is thatthese powerful people control both the leaders of the right andthe left. We end up polarized, fighting one another, eitherlistening to people like Limbaugh and Hannity or listening topeople like Matthews and Oberman. When in truth, both groupsare owned by the same powerful men and women who steal converted by
  5. 5. from us our birthright as free men and women. It would be like the passengers on the Titanic arguing with one another about something as trivial as the color of the curtains in the dining room. And we have to stop voting and behaving like people supporting their favorite sports team. We can all see how both groups are attacking someone like Ron Paul. The TV networks of both groups oppose him. Both Faux News and MSNBC. Not to mention ABC, CBS, NBC, etcetera. We have to all wake up and break free of our “mind game” shackles. camp37 January 1, 2012 at 11:24 pm Democracy is mob rule. It is a shame that people in AMERICA believe this. We do vote similiar to a democracy but we also have a bill of rights to protect us against mob rule. These rights cant be taken away by majority(mob) rule of 51% per the Constitution. They are inalienable rights given to us by god. A full democracy turns into social democracy which we have become. With the laws that keep passing we will soon if not already be socialism on the way to communism. GOD PLEASE SAVE the REPUBLIC!!! Kurt January 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm It does not matter if we were a Constitutional Republic or a Democarcy-I vote Constitutional Republic. That is now a debate for the history books. We are no longer either. The Republic died when this act was signed. It had a good 200 plus year run, may it RIP. annje January 1, 2012 at 2:16 am hate to point this out, but while “mob rule” accounts for min 51% over 49%, as it stands a few hundred get together without listening or actually representing theirmajorities and do what ever the heck they want to, deciding for 100s ofmillions…at this point, I’d rather have a true democracy. Reply andrew January 2, 2012 at 5:59 am this whole argument between democracy and republic is silly and distracting. you have NEITHER in the usa. in a real democracy these wars would not be happening, they are not popular, neither is this indefinite detention bill. what we have now is a corporate oligarchy ruling us. that’s not even a democracy, so enough all ready with this argument. Larry January 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm Duke, I agree. One of my favorite sayings is: “A democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what’s for dinner.” And in a Constitutional Republic, youwould have one well-armed sheep contesting the vote. converted by
  6. 6. Reply The Libertybelle January 1, 2012 at 7:42 pm Yes, sir…we once were a republic… Reply Andy January 2, 2012 at 6:52 am Duke you are so far behind the facts of America your name must be George Washington! Reply g bluff January 2, 2012 at 8:55 am Amen duke. I cringe when I saw Naomi refer to that dreaded word in her missive. WE ARE A REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY! Sorry to yell, but she needs toget it through her head. Reply Jason Calley January 2, 2012 at 10:59 am To all the posters who are saying, “We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic!”, you are correct that we are NOT a Democracy, but you are wrong (sadly!) that we are a Republic. The Republic is dead. D- E-A-D. The Constitution is dead. OK, I know — no one wants to admit it, everyone says, “If we can just return to the way the Founders planned…” Well, it is not bloody likely to happen, because most Americans do not want the Republic back. They would rather have Social Security, they would rather have an Empire, they would rather have a King who serves in four year investments. I am sorry, I really am VERY sorry, but the days of the Bill of Rights and the Republic are over. YOU need to wake up and face the facts, because you (and me, and everyone else who cares about such things) have some very serious decisions to make, decisions that will affect you and your children and grandchildren. May Palmer January 2, 2012 at 1:03 pm Thanks so much Duke for setting the record straight. I’m seeing this error of calling our system of Government a ‘democracy’ so much in variouscomment blogs, it’s quite ‘mind blowing’. Thank you for taking the timeto correct it! Reply JamesJoyce January 2, 2012 at 6:43 pm Who or what protects the rights of the majority from the abuses of the minority? Reply converted by
  7. 7. tilting@windbagstdi 2, 2012 at 9:41 pm January The Bill of Rights, the US Constitution, the Rule of Law. Julie January 2, 2012 at 11:28 pm Thank you Duke for clarifying this point. I am sooo tired of everyone thinking America is a democracy, we are a republic, a nation of laws, well, used to be. Reply SonOfLiberty January 3, 2012 at 7:50 am Duke, We were indeed founded as a Republic but when one looks back at history, you’ll find that it ended around the middle of 186. After the War Between The States we have been left with a democracy. The two party system isnt a Republican form of government. In a Republic the Constitution is strictly enforced. Only those powers that are delegated to the Federal Govt are followed. Today, the Federal Govt believes it has supreme power of the States etc… That is not how the Constitution was setup. Federalism is dead. Reply PatriotOne January 1, 2012 at 3:21 am “The only hope for the survival of our democracy is an informed, focused and unified population. It’s a very sad thing to behold what’s become of the once shimmering vision forthis nation that was conceived by our forefathers”.It is very sad to behold that you refer to these united States as a‘DEMOCRACY’. We the People had a Constitutionally limited Republic. Butsheeple like you ignore that fact and have rendered these States aDEMOCRACY. And you wonder what happened? YOU AND DEMOCRACYHAPPENEDDEMOCRACY is mob rule(s). The most votes EATS the least votes =DEMOCRACY. What congress and Obama did, they did with/byDEMOCRACY.You retards that want, push, and force DEMOCRACY around the world justgot a big taste of your DEMOCRACY.DEMOCRACY is dictatorship by committee. A dictator would be better thanDEMOCRACY because the people know exactly what the dictator wants, aDEMOCRACY changes the rules every minute so the people never knowwhat the LAW is and the LAW has a gun to your head every second waitingfor the LAW to change in favor of using the gun.In a DEMOCRACY there are zero core values because the values are votedon and changed every second. There is no Constitution in a DEMOCRACYbecause the CONSTITUTION is put to a vote every minute.There were 4000+ new laws passed in 2011, HOW MANY WERE EXAMINEDTHROUGH THE CONSTITUTION? ZERO WERE EXAMINED becauseDEMOCRACY CHANGED THE EXAMINATION PROCESS BY ELIMINATINGTHE CONSTITUTION.Some people just don’t know and they don’t know that they don’t know… converted by
  8. 8. Reply Andy January 2, 2012 at 6:53 am You are SO RIGHT!!!!!! Reply g bluff January 2, 2012 at 9:08 am Well, my friend, you were a bit abrasive, but I understand your angst because you are 100% right and you feel as though you are screaming into a storm of ignorance. I am grateful to you and many others who are now trying to open the eyes of our fellow brothers and sisters who call this section of the earth; “home”. I was once where the Democracy espousing ignorants reside. I was lucky enough to be educated otherwise. I find that many of those who embrace democracy believe it to be the same thing as a Constitutional Republic. Their hearts are in the trim, they just need some guidance on legal and governmental terminology. Be patient and understanding but point out to them how beautiful a Constitutional Republic is. We can be the beacon of the world again. Reply JoJo December 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm Question: What do you call several hundred Congressman in Jail? Answer:A good start! Reply Valleyforge January 1, 2012 at 9:00 pm And that sentiment, in a nutshell, is why it will be incredibly easy for Obama or a future president to have Congressional leaders arrested and held indefinitely. A public that is so easily demagogued to see their own representatives who are engaging in open debate as “hostage takers” and “terrorists” will not blink when they are arrested on allegations of treason or bribery or incitement. Obama is the first president to suggest that Congress is not only not doing it’s job, but is trying to destroy the country. His solution in 2012 is to simply ignore them. But next year he may decide he wants to exert “non-political” pressure. Reply brandon January 1, 2012 at 1:32 am converted by
  9. 9. Naomi did a good job. Now she should ignore party labels and back Ron Paul because he is the only person running for president that is against this and SOAPA Reply For my Liberty January 1, 2012 at 2:46 am Ron Paul is a KOOK, and those of you that FOLLOW him are JUST as CRAZY as HE is–EDUCATE yourself! Reply PatriotOne January 1, 2012 at 3:26 am Please provide facts and evidence that Ron Paul is a “KOOK”. Not your opinion, dumb-ass, facts and evidence. Reply daveHEART January 1, 2012 at 6:19 pm when you live in an insane, Orwellian world, then certainly, the SANE will be called crazy or kooky. I proudly proclaim myself to be crazy in this mixed up, messed up world. Jt Hollister January 1, 2012 at 3:31 am No, his dissenters are the kooky and uneducated ones. You go educate yourself. And if you think you already are, why don’t you prove it by actually telling us exactlywhat you think is bad about Ron Paul’s policies. Do NOT accuse me ofbeing uneducated, I have spent hundreds of hours studying theRepublican field’s positions. Reply JDaryyl January 1, 2012 at 4:21 am ForMyLiberty Find a real job besides spouting out your lies. YOU appear have a deficiency in education. For instance,you know what ad hominem means?? Reply kev January 1, 2012 at 6:48 am “For my Liberty” – you have made a complete ass of yourself. Have you ever heard a full Ron Paul speech? Have you read anything substantial on the subject? Orare you just another brainwashed idiot who can’t distinguish facts fromlies.I come from the European left (a long time ago). Today I am a converted by
  10. 10. libertarian – mostly thanks to Ron Paul. The rest of your candidates are baseless puppets. Reply clcickrcoccn January 1, 2012 at 11:44 am Really? Anyone who wants to end the murder of over 600,000 innocent women and children is a kook? The only one who stands against NDAA is a kook? The only only who denounces the Patriot Act, Illegal wars, FED manipulation and bank bailouts is a kook? Really? Reply dC January 2, 2012 at 12:16 pm Thank you… What is so kooky about the constitution? About ending the endless wars? About ending the banking corruption that begins with the Federal Reserve? About ending the unconstitutional Patriot Act, NDAA and SOPA legislation? What is kooky about treating the rest of the world with real respect and free trade? What is Kooky about a person that sticks to the constitution more than his party has in decades or what is kooky about a principled congressman knowing more about peace and civil liberties than a supposed constitutional lawyer candidate of hope and “change”? Tmcfadden January 3, 2012 at 1:20 pm People are too busy watching “Survivor”, “How I met Your Mother”, and “Dancing with the Stars” to pay any attention to an intellectual and prophetic man like Ron Paul. All they want is bread and circuses. Reply brandon January 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm great job Naomi. Now just party labels and back the only presidential candidate who opposes NDAA and SOPA. Reply REED RICHARDS January 2, 2012 at 4:34 am Many Representatives and Senators have said this, and most recently John Insane McCain, that this is x-number of presidents he has “served under”. When members of Congress declare thatthey serve “under the president”, that statement alone tells you how irrelevant anduseless they are.But hey, these are the maniacs that people vote for, and this is the corruptgovernment that they deserve. Reply converted by
  11. 11. Sam C. January 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm Actually, that is an ancient Chinese curse. It is not desirable to live in interesting times. Reply Judanne S January 2, 2012 at 9:41 pm Actually that’s a Chinese curse, not a proverb. Reply Judanne S January 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm … and these replies have appeared in the wrong place; they are actually responding to Jeff Roberts’ quote of ‘May you live in interesting times’. Reply j. Raymond January 2, 2012 at 11:16 pm could the bill be a cry for help from someone who is compelled to conform with the status quo. Reply Sheila Dean January 3, 2012 at 11:55 am Obama vows not to enforce a provision of a bill he signs as long as he is in power. Even if that coersion gets him re-elected- he only gets 4 more years. That’s not a good precedent. Reply Tbone December 12, 2011 at 11:27 pm Great Article Naomi, if only the Senators and Congress would have read your article first! It Amazes me you and others can see what history has taught us but those who Rule can be blinded by not only there arrogancebut in this case thier ignorance to believe they will be protected when infact like you havenoted, are the first to be rounded up as history has shown! Reply L. Reichard White December 13, 2011 at 12:39 am You said — Democracy NOW! IIRC — that if things moved too far in the direction they have, you would stop writing and leave the country. As a fellow freedom-oriented writer, I’m seriously interested in your plans inthat context. Reply TT December 13, 2011 at 11:41 am We need to educate people within the intelligence, police communities, US citizens (the 99%) that we need to investigate: 1. the real perpetrators involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11, London 7/7and other contrived “strategy of tension” terror attacks designed to instill fear and provide converted by
  12. 12. the pretext for the police state;2. who are connected to the MSM “usual suspects” who continue to fan the flames of theso-called “war on terror”, the Muslim boogie-man (destroy Palestine) agenda;3. who are part of the same groups of allied individuals who continue to contriveintelligence on the “war on terror”;4. who are part of the same criminal groups pillaging the tax-payers, profiting from the“war on terror”5. who are part of the the same group of fraudsters using DHS grants to spy on andcriminalize those opposed to them;6. who are connected to the corrupt politicians who propose, advocate legislationcriminalizing the freedoms necessary to determine the identities of this same oligarchicclique now pillaging the world one nation state at a time, and transforming the world into aglobal gulag.So, Why don’t we just identify the individuals within these groups, and throw these peoplein jail, rather than round up the American citizens opposed to this criminality? Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:34 am agreed Reply Mark Henry December 13, 2011 at 12:18 pm Because the individuals within these groups are the very individuals that are now making the laws. You cant expect them to admit their grievous mistakes and actually take responsibility for them can you? It is the priorityof the American people to stand against the tyrannies committed by this government butmost of them have fallen for the lies they have been told and refuse to admit that thisgovernment, like all those before it, is fallible. Reply Bill Bucolo December 13, 2011 at 12:42 pm Well put Naomi. Passing amendment 1031 reminds me of the Senate’s HAVA voting machine bill and its stampede into Iraq. They seem to be led around like children or sheep… more like sissies and fools. Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:38 am agreed. Reply Sean ODonnell December 13, 2011 at 1:11 pm This whole police state thing – which you’ve been writing about for years converted by
  13. 13. now – is gaining strength and speed…and enjoys bipartisan support. Reply Francis Tobin December 13, 2011 at 1:33 pm You are correct when you point out the trend in these matters tend to follow the historical pattern and they may realize too late that they have let the cat out of the bag and now the congress may well be devoured. Thishas been on the boil for some years now. The previous administration did the groundwork for all that has happened since. Reply Say No to Corporate America December 13, 2011 at 1:50 pm Thank you Naomi! You are spot on, as usual. I think Congress is just following orders, and I hope they will consider what you have spelled out for them.We should charge them with Seditious Conspiracy and really give them something to thinkabout,“Call to Action: Use NaSI SARs to Charge Your Representative & Senators with SeditiousConspiracy”;U.S. CODE > TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > SECTION 2384 > SEDITIOUSCONSPIRACY:“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdictionof the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force theGovernment of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force theauthority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of theUnited States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United Statescontrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned notmore than twenty years, or both.” Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:40 am I will repost this on FB. Thank you. Reply For my Liberty January 1, 2012 at 2:51 am WHERE does that put the 2nd Amendment among other parts of the Constitution?? The PEOPLE have the RIGHT to overthrow a Government that has gotten OUT OF CONTROL. Reply anonymous January 1, 2012 at 10:15 pm Right now the 2nd Amendment stands on a slim majority in the Supreme Court. If the makeup of the court changes during the next presidential term (which is likely to happen) then we could see the 2nd largely abolished depending upon who chooses those converted by
  14. 14. justices. I would suggest any and all become very informed on EVERY canidate’s position concerning the 2nd Amendment and then choose who you vote for very, very wisely. Reply Kendra Malczyk December 13, 2011 at 3:29 pm This is a very good and enlightening article. I would like to say that this has been done on purpose and that the supposed “war on terror” was the vehicle to see it done. It has been planned for a very long time. Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:47 am yep but they didn’t count on us and the 99%. they always overreach and then they get put down. Reply sddssTorben I. December 13, 2011 at 6:45 pm You know what really troubles me is that I’ve been reading “The End of America” right now, a book which is written in 2007 and literally ALL of Naomis assumptions for the future are point blank. Just to mention twoexamples she literally stated that “people will be accused of enspionage for the publishingof documents deemed secret” (Wiki-leaks affair?) and that facist governments use“situations of economical crisis and public unrest” to get into power, which back in 2007was not the case. Well lets just hope Ms. Wolf goes wrong for once or else in the next 4-5years it is good bye American Democracy, hello facist Superpower with the largest militaryin the world and the desperate need to get out of economical crisis.Yep, it does defintly feel like ’33 Reply zole December 13, 2011 at 6:56 pm Eternal Thanks from the Ivory Towers Reply Mal Bumgarner December 13, 2011 at 7:30 pm Everyone, and I mean everyone, should read Naomi’s book:The End of America:Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot and watch the movie: End of America by Anne Sundberg and Rickie Stern, too.Also, perhaps one of the most reveling books on how we’ve gotten to this fascist place sovery fast, read: The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How The War on Terror Turned into aWar on American Ideals by Jane Mayer. converted by
  15. 15. Reply Robin December 14, 2011 at 3:34 am I had very similar thoughts today… far less eloquent and concise, but I was about to start researching ‘citizens arrests’ to see what the rules and restrictions are…. I feel terrorized by my congressmen… Reply Stonecarver December 14, 2011 at 4:53 am I wonder if it’s filtered through the craniums cf GOP and tea party supporters that this can and will be used on them as well. You have just gift wrapped a massive great club to pound out and silence ANY dissentingvoice or action to the powers that be.Don’t forget the CinC is a democrat and not one ofyour biggest fans Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:50 am awesome Reply StonedCutter December 19, 2011 at 4:00 pm StoneCarver, I have to ask… Why do yuo blame the Tea Party (which is primarily a Libertarian group that believes in civil liberty) and the GOP. Did you miss the fact the 93% of congress voted this in? If you read the Ron Paul forums all the people you just pigeon holed are COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS! I guess your partisan viewpoint is missing the point here. Reply xpjrd December 14, 2011 at 6:52 am Interesting thesis, but Mussolini didn’t exactly have enabling legislation working for him when we turned his thugs loose. From what I understand about Russian history the same is true. If our military found it necessary tointervene in government I’m guessing they’re not going to be too concerned with havinglegal cover. That’s easily enough invented. Reply Holly LeRoque December 14, 2011 at 1:21 pm Thank you so much for the enlighting information, its a very sad state of nazi holocost afairs. Reply swag December 14, 2011 at 1:45 pm No, no- the first victims will be people who are roustabouts somehow, with records, say- people who the government can closely align with ‘terrorism’, as the word fans out to an enthused activism, to those who can be converted by
  16. 16. covered by the same cloak. Reply Carl Kirsch December 14, 2011 at 2:42 pm Cenk Uygur ranted about NDAA last night on Current TV’s “The Young Turks.” As a lawyer for 40 years, I am stunned by it. Good article thanks. Reply Carl Kirsch December 14, 2011 at 2:49 pm This is where the 5th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution steps in. It says, “No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except incases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time ofWar or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twiceput in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witnessagainst himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; norshall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.” Reply Andy January 2, 2012 at 7:06 am If I’m not allowed to contact a lawyer, what good is the 5th Amendment of the Constitution? Name ten states where big government hasn’t taken private property for public use, in some cases for private uses!!! Reply Mike Savage December 14, 2011 at 5:20 pm National Defense AUTHORIZATION Act Geez… Reply Anton Sherwood December 14, 2011 at 9:18 pm “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism ….” Reply sammyrutherford December 14, 2011 at 10:59 pm They’re hoping to have a box seat when when we are being fed to the lions. Reply converted by
  17. 17. Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 9:53 am Rome fell and so shall they. Reply Anger! December 14, 2011 at 11:01 pm Get them while you can: This is the beginning of the storm and the clouds on the horizons are awful gray. Reply okuncut December 14, 2011 at 11:33 pm great story thanks this gives me hope that while we are in prisons they might be also! #policestate Reply Billy Bob December 15, 2011 at 12:14 am This article is getting around… Genius supposition… One can only hope. Reply James Prater December 15, 2011 at 2:38 am How can this be constitutional ? 1031 is in direct violation of our constitution, therefor, those who voted for it should be detained for treason upon the people of the united states. Is there any Lawsuit forthcoming on this bill ? Reply Divinecomedia December 15, 2011 at 4:25 am why this bill? i thought the US has been under martial law since 9/11, according to the Continuity of Government National Security Directive discussed here Reply Kenneth Lowndes December 15, 2011 at 6:18 pm If the US Military goes in and places the members of Congress, both houses, who voted for this monster, first, then announces they are surrounding the White House next, most of us will Cheer.Then, remove all the bureacrats, and bulldoze down all federal buildings returning them topuductive farmlands.We the people conduct new elections and re-locate the political seat of power to theMiddle on the country.The middle between both coasts, including north and south.Those who have made this Mutinious attempted overthrow of We the people MUST go. converted by
  18. 18. We trust that the historical dustbins of Hitlerism, Pol-pot, Mao or Stalin are shunned andheld in derision by the US Military which has a record of having fought against, so aremore likely to sid ewith We the people, over an expande tragedy.. And that the Oath-Keepers within their ranks prevail on the side of what is morally and ethically sound.Any other outcome other than that is one we pray will be avoided.None of us will desire to live under such horrific conditions, and with nothing left to lose,millions of us are already prepared, in body and in mind, to RISE UP against all theseTHUGGIES – and their lackys, in congress.They have much to fear.And yes, there wll be blood. Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 8:03 am I stand with you, from the left coast. I stand with you Kenneth. Reply so sam December 18, 2011 at 9:29 pm You got that right Kevin L. -This is treacherous treason they should be tried & executed … & many are waking up to the out of control oligarchical military industrial complex ! We MUST pledge our lives , homes & fortunes to regain Liberty , ‘GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH ‘ … !! Its on Reply David December 16, 2011 at 1:35 am “8 (b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS 9 AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.— 10 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require11ment to detain a person in military custody under12 this section does not extend to citizens of the United13 States.14 (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The require15ment to detain a person in military custody under16 this section does not extend to a lawful resident17 alien of the United States on the basis of conduct18 taking place within the United States, except to the19 extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.”Please help me understand how this language, which specifically prohibits AmericanCitizens from military detention, allows for the military detention of American Citizens. Idon’t understand. What is going on here? If you can read, you can plainly see that this billdoes NOT authorize military detention of American Citizens. What gives? Reply Utah David December 16, 2011 at 6:35 pm I’m with you, David. I’ve read all the same things as you and I can’t find it in there anywhere…It doesn’t expend POTUS’ powers, either. I keep asking all my more-politically-informed friends of mine to show converted by
  19. 19. me where it possibly can be construed to get me locked up, and NOBODY can findit – they just send me links to talking heads (liberal AND conservative) saying howour Bill of Rights is now gone… Reply PatriotOne January 1, 2012 at 6:42 am Where? How? Did Eric Holder allow guns to be shipped to drug (dealers) cartels in Mexico? Where? How? Was the shipment of guns to criminals in a foreign country an act of war against that foreign country? Knowing that the government employees of the UNITED STATES are doing things that would get the People arrested by the UNITED STATES… SHOULD be construed enough to convince you that a citizen could be secretly arrested OR murdered by drone WITHOUT A WARRANT-TRIAL- CONVICTION-FACTS-EVIDENCE-WITNESS WITH FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE… How facts and evidence do you need to think ‘would the USA secretly arrest its own citizens?’. Have you ever asked the IRS to disclose the facts-evidence-witnesses alleging that you are required to pay a income tax? Or do you simply pay (too lazy or afraid to demand the truth) to avoid a gun being pointed at your head while the IRS watches the Sheriff sell your home? The ‘bill of rights’ has been gone for over 100 years… Reply Andy January 2, 2012 at 7:20 am You haven’t looked very far look up you-tube and watch McCain That sir is the writer of the bill will you believe him? Reply Ronda December 19, 2011 at 4:06 am I am thinking the requirement to be met to detain those who are not US citizens is not needed to detain US citizens, therefor implying that there is no actual requirements to impose this to US citizens…..Ihope I am wrong. Reply Andy January 2, 2012 at 7:22 am You are NOT WRONG see converted by
  20. 20. Reply Slidingintoit January 2, 2012 at 7:29 pm __BUILDING 7____With few exceptions , “Congress” is a den of whores, ignorant sold scum.The “Military” are not “fighting to protect Americans” they are working for the Fascists, whether they understand it , that fact, or not. They ARE WORKING, RIGHT NOW ….FOR THE SCUM BANKSTERS.__Building 7 Seven__Kurt Haskell Interviews. Aaron Russo & Norman Dodds Interviews.Get Informed. B Reply Slidingintoit January 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm ________GOVJACKED_________ Reply Roger Mattingly January 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm The key word here is “requirement”. It is not required, however, it is PERMITTED. For example, I don’t require my children to wear tennis shoes, but I do permit them to. To keep this from applying toAmerican citizens, the statement should have been written to say, “The permissionto detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizensof the United States.” Reply Raelene December 16, 2011 at 6:29 pm This has been reported in Australia too. The Act gives them power to arrest anyone anywhere, not just US citizens on US soil. Why they think this will fly in other countries is beyond me? converted by
  21. 21. Writing in Crikey, Bernard Keane wrote “Until yesterday, the Obama Administration hadthreatened to veto the bill. However, the mooted veto was not because of its far-reachingnature or its infringement of the most basic of civil liberties, but because the bill in effectcodified and therefore potentially restricted the executive’s currently nebulous powers ofinternment — that is, the Obama Administration was concerned the bill would reduce thepowers it claimed to have to inter people. On Wednesday the Administration dropped itsveto threat after an amendment was made giving the executive greater flexibility inrelation to detention. …. As one senator observed in 2006: “… restricting somebody’sright to challenge their imprisonment indefinitely is not going to make us safer. In fact,recent evidence shows it is probably making us less safe.” Oh, that was another liberalIllinois senator, one Barack Obama. Whatever happened to him?” Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 8:21 am This is what happened to the President, he’s not flip flopping, he’s being tactical. I think he weighs everything out. Here me out. We are global and connected now. People are waking up from the wars, the bigotry, and the hate. We have a list now of those who would do harm to our country and our constitutions. I’m very sure the military answers to the President, Commander and Chief to whom his very respected among those in higher ranks. We have an opertunnity to watch and/or participate in the largest round up evil you have ever seen. Imagine this, life is easily measured just by opening your eyes and seeing who has cheated and who has suffered. These men and women who signed this Bill will see prison time along with many others who have exploited our system of government to benefit their own lives. I’m seem to recall Lincoln removing habeas corpus to those who stood against Democracy. Live long and prosper Reply PatriotOne January 1, 2012 at 6:50 am who, what is “EVIL”. are you the GOD that determines “EVIL”. someone must go through some kind of process to determine “EVIL”. the Constitution has determined that the safest way to determine “EVIL” is by due process of law, NOT by secret mettings of bankers, buddies, elected liars and thieves. Due process of law at a public trial is the protector of liberty. I’m sure Al Capone had his secret mettings of who was good and who was “EVIL”. ALL EVIL THINGS ARE PLANNED IN SECRET, justice takes place in full view of the People Reply billybob jr January 2, 2012 at 6:53 pm THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT ARE PLANNING IN SECRET AND WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE ….WE converted by
  22. 22. KNOW WHO THEY WORK FOR AND HOW THEY HAVE COMITTED TREASON…ALL WE NEED NOW IS THE LIST OF ADDRESSES WHERE THEY SLEEP AND WHERE THIER CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL WITH PICTURES PUBLISHED SO THAT MAYBE THEY CAN BE PERSUADED TO CHANGE PRIORITIES FROM DISMANTLING THE BILL OF RIGHTS OR IN THE CASE OF THE MILITARY ONES, MURDERING DISSENTERS….TO DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ESCAPE THE WRATH OF 300 MILLION CITIZENS WITH SCOPES ON THIER RIFLES…IF YOU DONT LIKE THE FIRST AMENDMENT MOVE TO A PLACE THAT DOESNT HAVE ONE Reply Ben Conant December 18, 2011 at 8:56 am 1. Are you Naomi, single? 2. If so, can I buy you dinner? There’s a great Taco spot near my place. 3. A lil bit on the serious tip. NDAA has language of indefinite incarcerationof US civilians without cause. I need to know if our military is ready to arrest the GOP forsinking our economy and putting us all in harms way. I need to know if our military has thePresidents back and ours. I’m getting really tired of our Congress handing out cash todictators and oligarchs, we have so many that are suffering because Congress wont actor do so, only to benefit them and their own. Our military must be on the side ofDemocracy or our police state will continue…. Reply Josiah January 1, 2012 at 9:51 am This was passed with Bi-partisan support….Obama is as much to blame as the senators that voted for it, not ALL senators voted for it, not even ALL republican senators, its only 93% of congress and the president himself who are traitors here, blame ONLY those who enabled its passing Reply jim December 18, 2011 at 8:23 pm Fine writing Naomi but like me you just made the “free speach zone”. god speed. Reply so sam December 18, 2011 at 9:46 pm The best / fighting chance is for all military forces , police, firemen , etc. To keep the oaths they took [check] to defend the constitution & ‘we the people’ of the U.S. & GOD is on our side !Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.- J.F.K Reply converted by
  23. 23. so sam December 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm I LOVE YOU Naomi – GOD [YHWH] Bless you ! I’ve been listening to you for years & always thought you were articulate & ‘spot on’ … & I do believe the way you got on the trail was by an old Nazi holocaust survivorconstantly saying : “they did this in Germany ” ! GODspeed fellow patriots . Reply Daniel Parkman December 18, 2011 at 9:56 pm moines-register-bain-capital-mitt-romney/ Reply Daniel Parkman December 18, 2011 at 9:58 pm Reply Dr. Ed Kendrick December 18, 2011 at 10:22 pm Lessons of history not learned. Disaffected veterans of WW I brought to Washington, DC through manipulations by fascist industrialists to affect a coup.Perhaps this round, the disaffected, oath keeping troops will succeed in arresting andputting into indefinite detention the traitors who occupy Congress, the Court and theExecutive branch so we might reinstall Constitutional government.NESARA and End the Federal Reserve. Arrest the media moguls, editors and managerswho are complicit in a vast racketeering conspiracy along with the traitors.Turn the media over to schools of journalism.The enemies are inside the gates. Reply davidf December 19, 2011 at 3:06 am In response to those who are misreading the text of the bill here: “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States”. This means that the military isnot REQUIRED to detain citizens. It does NOT say that they may not CHOOSE to detainthem. Therefore, they MAY detain them. They have the legal right to do so, which is theentire problem in a nutshell.Other than this placing everyone in an impossible position of vulnerability, I simply find itto be so depressing as to result in me wanting to leave the country. The emotional impactof the behavior of these people to whom we entrust our country causes immeasurabledamage to our morale. This type of betrayal creates a spiritual ‘damage’ that effects thefabric of our beings. Anyone else feel like this? Reply mike mccoy December 19, 2011 at 6:57 am I have been screaming this from the mountaintops. The language is in the Bill, if you go to the Library of Congress and look it up. I have posted a similar article on , on my blog, on and I converted by
  24. 24. similar article on , on my blog, on and Ihave been tweeting all of the Traitors responsible for the passage of NDAA,. There hasbeen an info dump by anon., look it up on Facebook..good stuff. If this is not stoppednow, people who speak the truth will be silenced. I for one will not go peacefully into thenight! Reply Dr. Ed Kendrick December 19, 2011 at 8:07 am 9/11 has been leveraged to the hilt. The plans for shredding our Constitutional protections were laid well before 9/11 and have been a ‘work in progress’ for scores of years.SPLC has a seat at the table of DHS.A new documentary called “A Noble Lie” is a ‘must-see’. Take these baby steps and learnwho the core cabal of traitors are.We’ve been conditioned not to criticize our controllers.Here is a clue: It wasn’t muslims. Reply Slidingintoit January 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm _____________BUILDING 7 SEVEN___________________ THE GLARING CLUE, is Building 7, and the FACT that most Americans have no idea what it is , or what was in it , or what it means . Simply Stated The Americans have been de-educated & brainwashed at the same time…They Are The Zombies.See “NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT ” by CIT. youtube search “Mineta Cheney” “Rumsfeld Mancow” “Experts Speak” google “Rumsfeld Chicago Mancow”& “Mineta Cheeney”"and “EXPERTS SPEAK” ….GET INFORMED Reply Darby December 19, 2011 at 2:44 pm David is right. Did any of you actually READ the bill? or do you just believe anything anyone tells you? Come on people this IS the internet afterall. Where lies thrive Reply Robert Brothers December 19, 2011 at 3:42 pm The language in Section 1031 seems more restrictive than what is being discussed. Question: Are people able to be detained “under the law of war without trialuntil the end of the hostilities” who are NOT defined as “A person who was a part of orsubstantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged inhostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who hascommitted a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy”? Reply converted by
  25. 25. Jeff Roberts December 19, 2011 at 6:41 pm @Robert: The NDAA can be used to make anyone, anywhere just disappear. To think that there could be any comfort because it doesn’t seem to apply to you is ludicrous! What judge would you argue to? Whatlawyer would you have access to, to prove that you’re not actually in that category? Whenyou disappear, your disappearance will be treated just the same as any other! And, it’s myunderstanding that the section in the bill that doesn’t “require” Obama to use the militaryto detain American citizens is put in there to ALLOW him to use state and local police. Anynotion that this bill provides security for anyone but Obama is pure folly! Reply Robert Brothers December 19, 2011 at 9:31 pm @ Jeff – the fact that this could be abused does not mean that it will be, or that abuse could succeed. The court of public opinion is the last resort in all cases, including this one. Should the government start to detain people who are in no way associated with Al-Qaeda or Taliban, then we will have the power to stop it. Bush was not able to go as far as he wished in restricting people’s rights because of popular and legal opposition, even by the Supreme Court. Let us not strengthen our opponents by imagining their power to be greater than it is. Reply Jeff Roberts December 19, 2011 at 9:57 pm @Robert: You are right, there is no proof that Obama will use his new power to indefinitely detain. And no proof that he will ever assassinate another US citizen. But how will this ever get into the public opinion ifObama can legally have people disappear without notice, without charge, without trial?Who’s going to call every man, woman and child on the planet and make sure no one hasbeen abducted today, and then know for sure that it was Obama that did it? Don’t yousee? When due process is gone for one, it is then easy for it to spread to many?Someone once said: absolute power corrupts absolutely. It is in no way comforting toknow that one person has absolute power, unless that person was God Himself! Reply Jive Dadson January 1, 2012 at 5:10 am Whether Obama will abuse the office (again) is not the only concern. With luck, Obama will not be the last president of the US. I do fear he will not be the last tyrant to hold that office. Get to work for Ron Paul! Reply Shahid Buttar December 20, 2011 at 1:18 am It’s not yet too late to stop the NDAA from becoming law. Join the chorus clamoring for a White House veto in the face of the mainstream media blackout. Raise your voice both online and offline, at converted by
  26. 26. Reply Jim McClarin January 1, 2012 at 8:19 am You missed the part about Obama having already signed it into law. Reply Puck T. Smith December 22, 2011 at 3:24 am This with out a doubt the best analysis of this situation I have come across yet. Reply Heather December 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm God’s track record in the Old Testament wasn’t exactly sunshine and hugs, either. Just pointing it out. Reply JohnSmith December 29, 2011 at 4:59 am Naomi, did you actually read the document you linked to? I suggest you take a look at page 362, Section 1032b, where it states: APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS16 AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—17 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require18ment to detain a person in military custody under19 this section does not extend to citizens of the United20 States.21 (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The require22ment to detain a person in military custody under23 this section does not extend to a lawful resident24 alien of the United States on the basis of conduct25 taking place within the United States, except to the1 extent permitted by the Constitution of the United2 States.It sure is fun to post rants on the internet, but try reading the actual bill before you try tomake yourself sound smart and prove yourself wrong. Reply zeljko January 1, 2012 at 2:10 am Obviously you need a dictionary. The key word here is “Requirement”(look it up). The exemption above removes citizens from the REQUIREMENT of indefinite military detainment. In more words, they can still indeed be Militarily detained based on the King’s..I mean president’s order, or they can be passed off to the civilian courts by his order to. It all depends on the Executive..not the constitution. converted by
  27. 27. Reply Andy January 2, 2012 at 7:44 am No he needs a brain!!! Reply Ron Johnson January 1, 2012 at 7:45 am Read carefully. Any good lawyer can argue that while military detention is not REQUIRED of citizens, it is NOT OUTLAWED. Military detention, therefore, remains a legal option under this law. Reply billybob jr January 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm HEY JOHN…HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO TELL A COURT THAT THEY LACKED JURISDICTION? IT ONLY WORKS FOR A LITTLE WHILE THEN THEY CHANGE THE GAME…THEY ARE THE TERRORISTS AND THIS ONLY AUGMENTS THIER FALSE FLAG ATTACK AGENDA THE BILDERBERGERS HAVE EXTORTED THEM INTO EXECUTING FOR THEM …THEY HONESTLY BELIEVE THEY CAN TAKE OVER THE REST OF THE WORLD …HAHAHAHA Reply BettyLiberty December 31, 2011 at 11:47 pm When this country is in a full blown totalitarian rule and We the People are in ruins, I will remind you of how important Ron Paul was as I crawl past you. People don’t understand why Ron Paul supporters are almostfanatical to a fault about their candidate. It’s certainly not because of his charisma(although he does have a grandfatherly charm to him), and it”s not because he’s youngand dashing. It’s for sure not because the media is covering him fawningly.It’s because our country has been hijacked by conglomerates that own virtually everymainstream media network, and he is the only national figure calling them out on it everystep of the way. They are so desperately afraid of a Ron Paul presidency that they arethrowing everything they have at him. The left is claiming he is a homophobe, while theright decry that he would not interfere with a state’s right to approve gay marriage. Theright decry that he would end the racist “War on Drugs”, while the left claims that becauseof 10 lines in a newsletter with his name on it that was not written by him and has beendisavowed completely by him in addition to bearing some moral responsibility for them, heis a racist. The Democrats hate him. The Republicans hate him. The corporations hatehim. The establishment media hates him. They all freaking come unglued when it comesto him. Why? He makes them look like the hypocritical frauds each and every one of themare. Yes, the left and right hate each other, and yes, they fight over who gets control ofthe trough, but someone like Paul, who wants to drain the swamp, has them lock-and-stepin arms united against him. Doesn’t this tell you anything?!?Some of you agree with him on everything except his foreign policy, thinking he is apacifist, think again. President Paul would be the most ruthless President this countryever had as Commander-in-Chief. If Congress declared war, Paul would unleash the fullmilitary power of the United States, go to war, fight the war, and win it and “get it over with”in his own words. No nation building or propping up puppet dictator governments. And a converted by
  28. 28. message would be sent to the rest of the world not to mess with us.Ron Paul is the most incorruptible politician in modern American history. For the first timesince Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles, We the People have someonewe can trust to enter the White House and act like the adult and leader that this countryneeds so badly, owned by NOBODY. There will never, ever, ever, EVER be another RonPaul. I beg anyone on the fence to spend two hours on YouTube watching Ron Paulvideos straight from the man’s mouth himself. Love him or hate him, you must admit thatRon Paul has already won in the sense that his ideas have become mainstream. Theestablishment is panicking, and deservedly so, because if Paul becomes the President,We the People will finally realize that we have been lied to and deceived by the criminalsand shysters in D.C. and the establishment media was complicit in the lie the entire time.And let me tell you, when We the People realize this en masse, they will have hell to pay. Reply kev January 2, 2012 at 8:10 am Well said, BettyLiberty. I can hardly understand how I got to follow Ron Paul since 1997 without setting foot in your country while the majority there still haven’t quite got what Ron Paul is about. But then I don’t get my news from the corporate media – so I guess that’s the key. Reply Robert January 1, 2012 at 12:09 am Naomi, as of tonight, December 31, 2011, we are now living under what is tantamount to martial law in these so-called United States. Your President signed the act with some “reservations”. Sure he did. I know you’ve hadyour own reservations about Ron Paul, but he’s starting to look pretty good right aboutnow. Isn’t he? What do say we try to save this republic and get him elected President andmaybe we can turn back this tyranny. An endorsement by you would greatly help thecause of liberty. By the way, I’ve always loved your work. Reply Lisa Andersson January 1, 2012 at 4:03 am The only credible alternative we have to stop things like this is to vote in Ron Paul. Obama sadly enough have fell for lure of easy money from the big corporations and gone that route and that is not something I expectedwhen I saw him enter the last election. We can’t stare at the party label. Reply John January 2, 2012 at 10:16 pm When Obama left college, he went to work for International Business Corporation (he leaves the name of the company out of his autobiography). IBC is a front company of the CIA. Barack Obama Worked For The CIA – John Pilger converted by
  29. 29. Reply Andy January 1, 2012 at 4:08 am There is only one man in the world who can turn this around…RON PAUL 2012! Reply Jive Dadson January 1, 2012 at 4:59 am Newspapers reported that Obama signed the legislation “with reservations.” What few reported is that his reservations were because the bill gave too little power to the executive branch. Occording to the bill’ssponsor, it was Mr. Obama who demanded that language exempting US citizens beremoved.The last president to claim such powers was Abraham Lincoln. He arrested journalists,legislators, and even Supreme Court justices who ruled his actions were unconstitutional.The Constitution deals with Habeas Corpus in a section outlining restraints on thelegislature. It says Habeas Corpus may only be suspended during times of rebellion,invasion, or at times when the public safety may require it. If I could take a red pencil tothat document, I would strike out everything that follows “shall not be suspended.”Recently the New York Times gave a list of questions to all the presidential candidatesabout their views of the limits of power of the executive. All the GOP candidates exceptRon Paul (of course) gave shocking answers. Obama declined to answer at all. sincerely believe Ron Paul is our last hope. Four more years of any of the others couldlitterally bring the End of America. Reply Jive Dadson January 1, 2012 at 5:04 am Did I really type “occording”? So sorry. You know what I meant. converted by