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Wrestling with the implications of the Bible's teachings about the Trinity. Part of our Sunday School's study of the Christian and Missionary Alliance Church's Statement of Faith..

Wrestling with the implications of the Bible's teachings about the Trinity. Part of our Sunday School's study of the Christian and Missionary Alliance Church's Statement of Faith..

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CC Trinity-At Wit's End CC Trinity-At Wit's End Presentation Transcript

  • BELIEVERS AND ACHURCH IN TRANSITION The Trinity: At Wit’s End!!
  • At Wit’s EndHow fu!y can the mind of man know the ways of God?
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings I will have mercy on whom I desire, harden whom I desire (Ro 9:18)
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings I will have mercy on whom I desire, harden whom I desire (Ro 9:18) God has a predetermined plan(Acts 2:23)
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings I will have mercy on whom I desire, harden whom I desire (Ro 9:18) God has a predetermined plan(Acts 2:23) Jacob I loved, Esau I hated (Ro 9:13)
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings I will have mercy on whom I desire, harden whom I desire (Ro 9:18) God has a predetermined plan(Acts 2:23) Jacob I loved, Esau I hated (Ro 9:13) The Lord hardened pharaoh’s heart (Ex 9:12)
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings
  • The Bible Has Some Hard Sayings We do the math, add the ideas and ask, naturally enough . . . + If none resists His will, why does He still find fault?
  • We Imagine Our Question Puts God On The DefensiveCan the clay challenge Insufficient STRENGTH the Potter? (Ro 9:20) My thoughts are higher than your Insufficient INTELLECT thoughts! (Isaiah 55:9)Where were you whenI laid the foundation of Insufficient AUTHORITY the earth? (Job 38:4)
  • We Imagine Our Question Puts God On The DefensiveCan the clay challenge Insufficient STRENGTH the Potter? (Ro 9:20) My thoughts are higher than your Insufficient INTELLECT thoughts! (Isaiah 55:9)Where were you whenI laid the foundation of Insufficient AUTHORITY the earth? (Job 38:4)
  • We Imagine Our Question Puts God On The DefensiveCan the clay challenge Insufficient STRENGTH the Potter? (Ro 9:20) My thoughts are higher than your H thoughts! (Isaiah 55:9)a h! Insufficient INTELLECTWhere were you whenI laid the foundation of Insufficient AUTHORITY the earth? (Job 38:4)
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation) b. From experience (Life) c. From the creation (Science)2. Our THINKING brings us to a point in our search where we confess a. We have hard questions about God our minds can’t answer. b. Unanswered questions shake our confidence in God.
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation)
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation) b. From experience (Life)
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation) b. From experience (Life) c. From the creation (Science)
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation) b. From experience (Life) c. From the creation (Science)2. Our THINKING brings us to a point in our search where we confess
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation) b. From experience (Life) c. From the creation (Science)2. Our THINKING brings us to a point in our search where we confess a. We have hard questions about God our minds can’t answer.
  • So, how fully can the mind of man know the ways of God?1. By REASON, we gain and analyze a degree of information about God and His ways a. From the Bible (Revelation) b. From experience (Life) c. From the creation (Science)2. Our THINKING brings us to a point in our search where we confess a. We have hard questions about God our minds can’t answer. b. Unanswered questions shake our confidence in God.
  • Now, our pride of mind gets hurt! We demandGod answer to us!!
  • G od ain’t maki n’ sense!Now, our pride of mind gets hurt! We demandGod answer to us!!
  • C’mon, God,explain to me why You still find fault!!
  • C’mon, God, explain to me why You still find fault!! If You won’t answerthis question, You’re a fraud!
  • C’mon, God, explain to me why You still find fault!! If You won’t answerthis question, You’re What’s God a fraud! hiding?
  • No answer? No faith!
  • Peter and Jesus act out the intelligent way to handleChristianity’s hard questions!
  • Peter and Jesus act out the intelligent way to handleChristianity’s hard questions! 6 :5 9-69 Jo hn
  • Jesus: “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life.” (John 6:53-58)
  • Jesus: “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life.” (John 6:53-58)Disciples: “This is a difficult statement. Who can listen to it?” (John 6:60) As a result, many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking w ith Him anymore (John 6:66)
  • J esus ain’t makin ’ sense! body’d be a fool toAny walk w ith Him!
  • Now, Jesus turns to His inner circle, the 12, and asks . . .
  • Now, Jesus turns to His inner circle, the 12, and asks . . . “You do not want to go away also, do you?”
  • Lord, to whom shallwe go? You havewords of eternal life.
  • We Lord, have believed and to whom shall have come to know thatwe go? You have You are the Holy Onewords of eternal of God life.
  • Does Peter exercise the BLIND FAITH that atheists accuse us brain-deadChristians of being slaves to?
  • Does Peter exercise the BLIND FAITH that atheists accuse us brain-deadChristians of being slaves to? NO WAY!!!
  • Lord, to whom shallwe go? You havewords of eternal life.
  • Lord, to whom shallwe go? You havewords of eternal life. We have believed andhave come to know that You are the Holy One of God
  • Lord, Inte!ectual analysis of alternatives to whom shallwe go? You havewords of eternal life. We have believed andhave come to know that You are the Holy One of God
  • Lord, Inte!ectual analysis of alternatives to whom shallwe go? You have Positive evaluation of pastwords of eternal communications life. We have believed andhave come to know that You are the Holy One of God
  • Lord, Inte!ectual analysis of alternatives to whom shallwe go? You have Positive evaluation of pastwords of eternal communications life. Declaration of a shared trust We have believed andhave come to know that You are the Holy One of God
  • Lord, Inte!ectual analysis of alternatives to whom shallwe go? You have Positive evaluation of pastwords of eternal communications life. Declaration of a shared trust We have believed and Connection of that trusthave come to know that to prior knowledge You are the Holy One of God
  • Lord, Inte!ectual analysis of alternatives to whom shallwe go? You have Positive evaluation of pastwords of eternal communications life. Declaration of a shared trust We have believed and Connection of that trusthave come to know that to prior knowledge You are the Holy One of God Acceptance of Jesus as God, a Being at once familiar yet transcendent
  • My step of faith was based onthoughtful reflection of what I already knew about Jesus.
  • Faith is NOT BLIND. Faith My step of faith was based onbuilds on an acquired knowledge thoughtful reflection of what I of God, which gives us reasons already knew about Jesus. to trust Him.
  • “I’ll never ask you toabandon reason for blind leaps of faith.”
  • “What you know about “I’ll Me lets you trust never ask you to Me for what youabandon reason for don’t!” blind leaps of faith.”
  • Down-to-Earth Example
  • Down-to-Earth Example
  • Down-to-Earth ExampleMike doesn’t knowmuch about me atthis point . . .
  • Down-to-Earth ExampleMike doesn’t knowmuch about me atthis point . . .But he does knowme!
  • Down-to-Earth ExampleMike doesn’t knowmuch about me atthis point . . .But he does knowme!And what he doesknow trumps what hedoesn’t know.
  • Down-to-Earth ExampleMike doesn’t knowmuch about me atthis point . . .But he does knowme!And what he doesknow trumps what hedoesn’t know.So it is with God andus–
  • At your wit’s end with some hardsaying? Remember what you DOknow about Jesus Christ before youput your grumpy pants on!
  • For I determined toknow nothing amongyou except JesusChrist, and Himcrucified. (Paul in I Corinthians 2:2)