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YES,  SOME WENT  ANYWAY
THE REAL FACTS Colonel Bui Tin, formerly of the North Vietnamese General Staff Was interviewed by Stephen Young for an article to appear in the August 3 rd  1995 Wall Street Journal. Q. What about the results (of the 1968 Tet Offensive)? A: Our losses were  staggering and a complete surprise . (General) Giap (North Vietnam’s leading General and war strategist)  later told me that  Tet had been a military defeat ,  though we had gained the planned political advantages when Johnson agreed to negotiate and did not run for re-election. Q. Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory? A. It was  essential  to our strategy. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like  Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark  … gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were  elated  when  Jane Fonda, … said at a press conference that she was  ashamed  of American actions  in the war and that she would struggle along with us.
Hanoi Jane Fonda 1972 Walter Cronkite 1968 Ho Chi Min General Vo Nguyen Giap Colonel Bui Tin NOW LIVES IN PARIS ASHAMED UNWINNABLE ELATED STAGGERING LOSSES
FACT:  Following Tet '68 TV Journalist Walter Cronkite declared the war "unwinnable" FACT:  By January '68 there were approximately 12,896 Americans K I A FACT:  At war's end there were 58,260 Americans K I A CONCLUSION The Anti-War Movement and media prolonged the war FACT:  The difference is 45,364 +/- THE REAL FACTS
MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE HIPPIES OR YIPPIES IN THE 60S FREE LOVE FREE SPIRITS TURNED ON TUNED OUT F L O W E R   P O W E R SEX  DRUGS  ROCK & ROLL   THEY WERE COMMITTED TO
THEY TRAVELLED TO PLACES LIKE WOODSTOCK IN GAILY DECORATED BUSES
WHILE OTHERS TRAVELLED FROM PLACES LIKE HUE CITY
SO, WHO WAS COMMITTED? ?
Yes Ms. Baez, perhaps you could have  better  contributed. Instead you and your kind detracted, disgraced, demeaned and vilified those with the  courage  to try to make a difference.
THE MYTHS OF VIETNAM TOOK OUR YOUTH OLDEST KIA = 62  22  52 YEAR OLDS  11% KIA = 32 + YEARS  AVG AGE KIA = 23 ONLY  101  18 YEAR OLDS = KIA TOOK OUR UNEDUCATED MEDIAN SCHOOLING = 13 YRS  80% HS GRADS VS  45% WW II  ONLY 60% IN USA TOTAL   3 X THE NUMBER OF COLLEGE GRADS IN WWII   THE DRAFT 33%  VS  67% IN WWII 77% KIA = VOLUNTEERS PREYED ON MINORITIES 5% KIA = HISPANIC  < %  THAN DRAFT AGE POP 12.5% KIA = BLACK  < %  THAN DRAFT AGE POP  Source – Stolen Valor - B. G. Burkett & Glenna Whitley – Verity Press 1998

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Vietnam Short

  • 1. YES, SOME WENT ANYWAY
  • 2. THE REAL FACTS Colonel Bui Tin, formerly of the North Vietnamese General Staff Was interviewed by Stephen Young for an article to appear in the August 3 rd 1995 Wall Street Journal. Q. What about the results (of the 1968 Tet Offensive)? A: Our losses were staggering and a complete surprise . (General) Giap (North Vietnam’s leading General and war strategist) later told me that Tet had been a military defeat , though we had gained the planned political advantages when Johnson agreed to negotiate and did not run for re-election. Q. Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory? A. It was essential to our strategy. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark … gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, … said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.
  • 3. Hanoi Jane Fonda 1972 Walter Cronkite 1968 Ho Chi Min General Vo Nguyen Giap Colonel Bui Tin NOW LIVES IN PARIS ASHAMED UNWINNABLE ELATED STAGGERING LOSSES
  • 4. FACT: Following Tet '68 TV Journalist Walter Cronkite declared the war &quot;unwinnable&quot; FACT: By January '68 there were approximately 12,896 Americans K I A FACT: At war's end there were 58,260 Americans K I A CONCLUSION The Anti-War Movement and media prolonged the war FACT: The difference is 45,364 +/- THE REAL FACTS
  • 5. MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE HIPPIES OR YIPPIES IN THE 60S FREE LOVE FREE SPIRITS TURNED ON TUNED OUT F L O W E R P O W E R SEX DRUGS ROCK & ROLL THEY WERE COMMITTED TO
  • 6. THEY TRAVELLED TO PLACES LIKE WOODSTOCK IN GAILY DECORATED BUSES
  • 7. WHILE OTHERS TRAVELLED FROM PLACES LIKE HUE CITY
  • 8. SO, WHO WAS COMMITTED? ?
  • 9. Yes Ms. Baez, perhaps you could have better contributed. Instead you and your kind detracted, disgraced, demeaned and vilified those with the courage to try to make a difference.
  • 10. THE MYTHS OF VIETNAM TOOK OUR YOUTH OLDEST KIA = 62 22 52 YEAR OLDS 11% KIA = 32 + YEARS AVG AGE KIA = 23 ONLY 101 18 YEAR OLDS = KIA TOOK OUR UNEDUCATED MEDIAN SCHOOLING = 13 YRS 80% HS GRADS VS 45% WW II ONLY 60% IN USA TOTAL 3 X THE NUMBER OF COLLEGE GRADS IN WWII THE DRAFT 33% VS 67% IN WWII 77% KIA = VOLUNTEERS PREYED ON MINORITIES 5% KIA = HISPANIC < % THAN DRAFT AGE POP 12.5% KIA = BLACK < % THAN DRAFT AGE POP Source – Stolen Valor - B. G. Burkett & Glenna Whitley – Verity Press 1998