Your SlideShare is downloading. ×
RNchat Transcript March 05, 2010
Upcoming SlideShare
Loading in...5
×

Thanks for flagging this SlideShare!

Oops! An error has occurred.

×

Introducing the official SlideShare app

Stunning, full-screen experience for iPhone and Android

Text the download link to your phone

Standard text messaging rates apply

RNchat Transcript March 05, 2010

659
views

Published on

Transcript of #RNchat, a Twitter chat for registered nurses and the public. …

Transcript of #RNchat, a Twitter chat for registered nurses and the public.

Topics included:

Nursing Salaries
Second-career Registered Nurses

For more information:

visit http://RNchat.org
Follow @RNchat on Twitter: http://Twitter.com/RNchat


0 Comments
0 Likes
Statistics
Notes
  • Be the first to comment

  • Be the first to like this

No Downloads
Views
Total Views
659
On Slideshare
0
From Embeds
0
Number of Embeds
0
Actions
Shares
0
Downloads
1
Comments
0
Likes
0
Embeds 0
No embeds

Report content
Flagged as inappropriate Flag as inappropriate
Flag as inappropriate

Select your reason for flagging this presentation as inappropriate.

Cancel
No notes for slide

Transcript

  • 1. rnchat: Welcome to #RNchat! We'll get started in a moment. Let's begin with introductions. Tell us about yourself in < 140! 3/5/2010 20:30 EllenRichter: Good evening! I am happy to stop work for a quick break with my #RNchat friends tonight!! TGIF even if I'm working!! :) 3/5/2010 20:32 lorryschoenly: Hi, glad we are a little early tonight. Need to leave at 9 - Correctional Nurse educator and advocate. Howdy All #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:33 KPNurseRecruit: Hi everyone! I'm happy to be back tonight after having to miss the last 2 #RNChat I'm a Nurse Recruiter within Kaiser Permanente in Cali 3/5/2010 20:33 EllenRichter: I'm from unseasonably freezing south Florida! I'm a critical care nurse & legal nurse consultant. :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:34 InfusionNurse: Howdy to all!! Infusion nurse and nurse educator. Happy to be here!! #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:34 EllenRichter: Howdy Phil, Lorry, Louetta & "Infusion"! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:35 rnchat: OK, first topic coming up! #RNchat Please prepend replies to topics with T1, T2, etc. 3/5/2010 20:36 InfusionNurse: @EllenRichter ..LOL...Ido have a name....its Cora!! LOL Hi back to you all!! #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:36 rnchat: @EllenRichter @infusionnurse @kpnurserecruit @lorryshoenly Howdy! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:37 cyclingwidow: Missing my nurse peeps tonight at #rnchat. Am at 5yr olds Upward awards 3/5/2010 20:37 EllenRichter: @InfusionNurse Cora!! Well, finally! LMAO~ Welcome Cora! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:37 rnchat: T1 Nursing Salaries: What are average salaries for different kinds of nursing? How can we demonstrate value & raise pay? #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:37 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat OMG didn't know it was tonight! T1 3/5/2010 20:38 InfusionNurse: T1: varies with geographic location, experience and length of service... #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:39 rnchat: @ocdgirl2000 Sorry - I didn't promote it too heavily. ...Welcome! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:40 EllenRichter: @RNchat Wow T1 is an excellent question! How can we demonstrate value & raise pay? #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:41 EllenRichter: T1 I watch all my colleagues in other disciplines ie: PT, RT, nutrition--they all bill for
  • 2. services rendered. Where did we go wrong? #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:42 KPNurseRecruit: RT @rnchat: T1 Nursing Salaries: What are average salaries for different kinds of nursing? How can we demonstrate value & raise pay? #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:42 EllenRichter: @ocdgirl2000 T1 Yes, good benefits really can be an important salary adjuster!! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:42 EllenRichter: T1 I really think nurses need to restructure how we get paid & what we get paid for #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:43 philbaumann: @EllenRichter "Your backside is clean and dry. That'll be $35 please. We take Visa, Mastercard, Medicare, Medicaid" ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:44 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T1yep, and accumulated leave, sick leave benefits, retirement benefits, matched retirement contributions, etc. 3/5/2010 20:44 EllenRichter: T1LMAO @philbaumann almost kinda!! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:44 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T1 my "leave" accumulates at a faster rate after 5,10, 15 years.. 3/5/2010 20:45 philbaumann: @EllenRichter Actually, I left a zero out. $35 is way too low. Gotta go for the gusto. That's what docs have done ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:46 InfusionNurse: @philbaumann ..T1 wish it's that way, often nursing is free...part of room charge..sad #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:46 EllenRichter: T1 I really do believe our "worth" would increase if everyone saw our task lists per hour and divided that by our hourly wages! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:49 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T1 I know they enacted the Lilly Ledbetter act in 2009,in MD so that if you are performing the exact same job as a peer,same salary! 3/5/2010 20:49 nursingpins: Nurses could take on cases - would not have to be there all the time - ordinate the care - (a true nursing practice) #Rnchat T1 3/5/2010 20:49 onlinenursing: Ahhhh I 'm late to #RNChat 3/5/2010 20:50 EllenRichter: T1 If I perform 15 high level patient-care interventions in 1 hour & make $30/hr, each task is worth only $2 bucks? C'mon its insane #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:50 EllenRichter: @nursingpins T1 I always thought that was a great idea & think with electronics improving, we will see better use of RNs #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:51 rnchat: @nursingpins Hi, Vernon! #RNchat
  • 3. 3/5/2010 20:52 EllenRichter: And hi Vernon, Terri & Lynne!! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:52 meducate: @EllenRichter it's about fair market value within the HC system #rnchat :0) 3/5/2010 20:52 nursingpins: Charge for Assmts - care plans - complex procedures - be there for questions and education - fee for service #rnchat T1 3/5/2010 20:52 EllenRichter: @meducate Hi there! T1 But nurses really never SET fair market value before! I think its high time! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:53 onlinenursing: T1 - interesting conversation. Here in SWMo, salaries are some of the lowest in nation for RN, NP, and academia. Great ideas guys #RNChat 3/5/2010 20:53 rnchat: OK, next topic coming up in a moment. Pay is a huge issue - so many angles to discuss. We should do a whole chat on it, right? #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:53 InfusionNurse: @meducate ..do u know what the FMV is for nurses? #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:54 nursingpins: As nurses - we do so little now - compared to what we could do - we do everything else AND nursing #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:55 EllenRichter: @onlinenursing Yes its really very disappointing to see the wide differences in RN salaries throughout the country! #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:55 rnchat: RT @nursingpins: As nurses - we do so little now - compared to what we could do - we do everything else AND nursing #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:55 EllenRichter: LOL how sad but true! How to get out from that rut?? >> RT @nursingpins: As nurses we do everything else AND nursing #rnchat #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:56 nursingpins: We do a tiny bit for everybody but not a lot for any one pt - as we should #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:57 KPNurseRecruit: T1 If there's any consolation, in my regional area, nurses r more highly compensated than most the rest of the multidisp team mbrs #RNChat 3/5/2010 20:57 onlinenursing: @rnchat & @nursingpins - great points- imagine how much healthcare would improve if nurses could just nurse and not everything else #RNChat 3/5/2010 20:57 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T1 lets not go there!The gov is cutting services now! we have no cleaning services any more!Guess who the maids are>? 3/5/2010 20:57 rnchat: T2 Second-career Nurses: What are your experiences with them? Do their backgrounds bring new perspective? #RNchat
  • 4. 3/5/2010 20:57 InfusionNurse: @nursingpins ..we've been so "giving" that we really don't think of getting paid for all that we do... #rnchat 3/5/2010 20:58 EllenRichter: T1 My patient said "why do nurses have to empty the garbage & linen from the ICU rooms?" "There is no one else" I answered #RNchat 3/5/2010 20:58 EllenRichter: T2 Second-career usually connotates some increased level of maturity. I think 2nd career RNs "critically think" better #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:00 EllenRichter: @ocdgirl2000 LOL, yes, lets not go there....maid service 101 #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:00 onlinenursing: T2- hmm-good question.Depends on the nurse.4some it is career they always wanted,4others they R just trying 2 find job security. #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:01 nursingpins: I welcome (2nd. degree nurses) for so long - nurses had always been nurses - They have fresh perspectives and the maturity helps. #rnchat T2 3/5/2010 21:01 EllenRichter: @Cathy_Robinson Theres just not enough housekeeping help after hours! If we do a procedure in an ICU room, we make a mess! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:01 KPNurseRecruit: T1 A quick salary comparison calculator tool in case u ever decide 2 move 2 another region in US. http://www.bestplaces.net/COL/ #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:02 Cathy_Robinson: RT @nursingpins: I welcome (2nd. degree nurses) for so long - nurses had always been nurses - They have fresh perspectives and the maturity helps. #rnchat T2 3/5/2010 21:02 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 Large BAGS of garbage down long halls..with a million little empty methadone dose bottles..with patients looking at us.."eyes.." 3/5/2010 21:02 EllenRichter: T2 I had an orientation programs for open heart RNs with no prior ICU experience...many were firefighters who became RNs #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:03 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 and no vacuum cleaner..had to ask where it was?one we had manager didn't like it in her office.now, it's gone! 3/5/2010 21:04 nursingpins: I work with a guy who was an off-shore worker - wonderful nurse - married a nurse and got interested - great leader #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:04 philbaumann: I'm second-career myself. I do think there's something about having a different background & being older. Lots of positive feedback. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:04 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 I'm a second career RN. 3/5/2010 21:04
  • 5. DianaCCRN: @EllenRichter @Cathy_Robinson #RNchat We do not staff housekeeping after hours in my facility. It is all on us. 3/5/2010 21:05 EllenRichter: T2 Those firefighter-to-RN staff were really great workers!! I loved them!! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:05 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 degree was in human ecology, textile marketing. 3/5/2010 21:05 jodyms: Checking over to #RNChat. Be back later. 3/5/2010 21:05 InfusionNurse: @ocdgirl2000 @philbaumann....any regrets? #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:05 philbaumann: Of course, if you started nursing as a first career, you probably don't know how much work yer doing compared to office workers ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:06 nursingpins: For Critical Care - takes years to be really effective - but there are so many opportunities in so many other areas (2nd career) #rnchat T2 3/5/2010 21:07 EllenRichter: @philbaumann Funny...I am a first-career RN and I still cannot believe how much work I do! ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:07 KPNurseRecruit: I interviewed an RN 2day who was an archeaologist n his previous career. Took his degree and turned it into an accelerated MSN. #RNChat T2 3/5/2010 21:07 philbaumann: @InfusionNurse No - but I do wish nursing got a LOT more support from the culture, facilities, (and nurses themselves) etc. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:07 onlinenursing: Ooohhh.Love paramedic to RN people. hey ROCK! the premed2RN though-repeatedly remind me they were premed-like their smarter :) #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:07 philbaumann: @EllenRichter LOL - but if you worked in an office before nursing, you'd proly go "Damn, THIS is work" ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:08 EllenRichter: @KPNurseRecruit Wow, thats a very unusual change in careers! There must be no opportunity for archeologists? :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:08 DianaCCRN: @onlinenursing T2 #rnchat my thoughts excatly. Also some of the older generation have issues respecting younger nurses w/ more experience. 3/5/2010 21:08 meducate: @InfusionNurse It has to be established or derived #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:08 Cathy_Robinson: RT @onlinenursing: Ooohhh.Love paramedic to RN people. hey ROCK! the premed2RN though-repeatedly remind me they were premed-like their smarter :) #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:09 lperk: @EllenRichter I would agree. #RNchat
  • 6. 3/5/2010 21:10 KPNurseRecruit: @EllenRichter He is actually internal--but going for higher level mgmt position. U should see him rock on the research n protocols #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:10 EllenRichter: @lperk Thanks! I love when people agree with me!! ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:11 onlinenursing: RT @DianaCCRN #RNChat Also some of older generation have issues respecting younger nurses w/ more experience.Good point-back 2 lat. violence 3/5/2010 21:11 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 was preggers with number 2 kid & was age 28 had job at Beltsville agricultural research center.. 18 credits away.. 3/5/2010 21:11 rnchat: @meducate Derived value. Kinda like derivative markets. I like that. Nurses should use that model. Worked for bailed-out banks. ;) #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:11 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 then had him, he was born with Sturge Weber Syndrome 3/5/2010 21:12 EllenRichter: I think it was T1 I'd like to be on the "derived value" committee, thank you!! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:12 onlinenursing: @ocdgirl2000 So did having the child with an illness help push you to nursing? #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:13 DianaCCRN: #rnchat T2 my husband is currently in nursing school after working in Agriculture for 8 years. It was necessary but NSG seems to fit him. 3/5/2010 21:13 nursingpins: I would rather have the rudest most expir'ed nurse that the sweetest one with little-- respect for knowledge has never been a problem #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:13 onlinenursing: @EllenRichter we would totally make you chair of the derived value committe :) #RNChat. 3/5/2010 21:14 philbaumann: @onlinenursing @dianaCCRN I could see that happening. In my experience, though, respect for expertise has trumped age issues. #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:14 jodyms: @PhilBaumann No hiding in the cubicle or restroom, that's for sure. #rnchat T2 3/5/2010 21:14 jodyms: @nursechenene Makes sense. I'm interested in cancer survivorship, #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:15 EllenRichter: @DianaCCRN Many of those factory workers will not stay nurses for sure. Its not the kind of job you take JUST because you can #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:15 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 well bad marriage ensued among all that with all those hospitalizations , I figured what the heck?I'm here all the time anyway? 3/5/2010 21:16 philbaumann: @jodyms Yep. No long lunches (or any lunches) either. ;) #RNchat
  • 7. 3/5/2010 21:16 onlinenursing: @nursingpins ahhhh-great point! Love it-want experience-although barking orders/angry RN raises my B/P.Met 1 yest when GF had surg #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:16 Cathy_Robinson: RT @ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 well bad marriage ensued among all that with all those hospitalizations , I figured what the heck?I'm here all the time anyway? 3/5/2010 21:16 rnchat: RT @EllenRichter: @DianaCCRN Many of those factory workers will not stay nurses for sure. Its not the kind of job you take JUST because you can #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:16 NursingCenter: Hi everyone! Just jumping in here ~ will try to catch up! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:17 jodyms: @PhilBaumann I can imagine; having been a patient and worked in hospitals (pr/mktg) #RNchat Would do rounds w/Night Supervisor #RNchats 3/5/2010 21:17 EllenRichter: @ocdgirl2000 What a story! You are amazing! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:18 ocdgirl2000: @onlinenursing #rnchat a child,both children, and both parents..I've been caring for people my whole life, really...lol, in retrospect.. 3/5/2010 21:18 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter I couldn't agree more Ellen! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:18 Cathy_Robinson: RT @ocdgirl2000: @onlinenursing #rnchat a child,both children, and both parents..I've been caring for people my whole life, really...lol, in retrospect.. 3/5/2010 21:18 EllenRichter: @NursingCenter Hi there GF, welcome! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:19 InfusionNurse: They can b/c they know they're good!! RT @EllenRichter: @nursingpins LOL yes, and why are some of the best ICU nurses rude?? #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:19 rnchat: Nice conversation! Final topic coming up in a few minutes. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:19 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:19 rnchat: @NursingCenter Great to see you! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:19 PamelaKline: @PamelaKline oops! Hit send & wasn't done! Thanks Ellen. Hi Phil:) Sorry I'm late #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:20 KPNurseRecruit: @NursingCenter Glad you made it! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:20 InfusionNurse: @nursingpins ...knowledge is power.... #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:20
  • 8. lperk: #rnchat T2 I'm a second career RN, too, via accelerated MSN. Previous& current pt univ prof in communic &new grad RN. Plan to continu both 3/5/2010 21:20 EllenRichter: @PamelaKline Hi Pam! Thanks! I really do wish for that! Give $ value to our thousands of patient-related interventions! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:20 heathersebi98: T2 I'm a second career RN as well...was a music major the first go round. Talk about change! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:21 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 daughter ADHD bipolar, son Sturge Weber syndrome ,bilateral. congenital glaucoma from 3 mos old, bilateral surgeries, 7 times! 3/5/2010 21:21 nursesluck: I was mostly a waitress prior 2 nursing, trying 2 raise enough $ 2 put myself thru college drama training. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:21 NursingCenter: @EllenRichter @rnchat Thanks for the welcome! Glad to be here - sorry I'm late! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:21 nursingpins: RT @InfusionNurse: @nursingpins ...knowledge is power.... #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:21 rnchat: @PamelaKline Hi, Pam! Glad you're hear! Ah, time's not important as long as it all works out. :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:22 DianaCCRN: @EllenRichter @nursingpins #RNchat I see us as more vocal patient advocates. We are pushy but those are the nurses I want on my side! 3/5/2010 21:22 heathersebi98: I kind of disagree...ICU nurses have their niche, but have you ever seen a medsurg nurse work? YO, that's some MAJOR skill! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:22 EllenRichter: T2 Wow I think 2nd career RNs outnumber 1st career ones! Its great to know people flock to the profession. Are you all happy U did? #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:23 nursingpins: @InfusionNurse I have been guilty of being rude to less expirenced nurses - trying to change :) #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:23 NursingCenter: @nursesluck wow - love to hear stories about how nurses got into nursing...so many different paths! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:23 nursesluck: My mom's death in 82 changed all that: I wanted 2 save the world. Premed turned 2 nursing after 5 C's threw my GPA! No regrets. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:23 EllenRichter: @heathersebi98 ABSOLUTELY! I think med/surg nurses---these days especially---need to get a medal of honor. High acuity, low staffing #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:24 DianaCCRN: @nursingpins @InfusionNurse #rnchat the nature of nursing is for us to eat our young.
  • 9. 3/5/2010 21:24 heathersebi98: @EllenRichter preach it sister! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:24 EllenRichter: @nursesluck Wow, what an interesting, sad, yet happy (in the end) (hopefully) change of careers! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:24 InfusionNurse: @nursingpins ..rude or impatient? #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:25 nursingpins: Units need to maintain a mix- for many reasons - all need support #rnchat (each other) 3/5/2010 21:25 NursingCenter: @nursingpins I've been there too - we all have our bad days! Or days when our patience is not as it should be! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:25 rnchat: Actually - you know what? The convo about T2 has turned out to be very interesting. #RNchat - Shall we skip 3 and just burn this one out? 3/5/2010 21:25 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat I taught my son how 2 have his eyes checked without anesthesia sitting on telephone book 4 years old,applanation tonometer!pressure 3/5/2010 21:25 NursingCenter: RT @EllenRichter ABSOLUTELY! I think med/surg nurses--these days especially--need to get a medal of honor. High acuity, low staffing #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:25 EllenRichter: Actually....there really is no place for rudeness or an uppity attitude by any nurse, experienced or new. Come now... #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:26 onlinenursing: RT @nursingpins @InfusionNurse agree knowledge is power,still not excuse 4 rude w/fams or fellow RNs. Need 2 teach clear uncond com #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:26 heathersebi98: RT @EllenRichter: Actually....there really is no place for rudeness or an uppity attitude by any nurse, experienced or new. Come now... #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:26 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat my son could tell the techs or the Nurses which veins were the best to use, and when his IV's were bad..LOL! 3/5/2010 21:27 PamelaKline: @rnchat T2, I don't know about that 1.I have 2 male friends that r in nsg school now. 1 was a Realtor & other worked @GM! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:27 nursingpins: Hart to remember how hard it was when you first started -then you learn so much - then with somebody right out of school you forget #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:28 onlinenursing: T2- #RNchat funny how much comes back 2 education (pay, communication, second career, attitude :)whew-lots of pressure for educators 3/5/2010 21:28 meducate: @RNchat yup! #rnchat
  • 10. 3/5/2010 21:28 InfusionNurse: Good 4 him RT @ocdgirl2000: my son could tell the techs or the Nurses which veins were the best to use, and when his IVs were bad. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:29 PamelaKline: RT @EllenRichter: Actually..there really is no place for rudeness or an uppity attitude by any nurse, experienced or new. Come now #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:29 heathersebi98: It's imperative that we change our nursing education system to meet the needs of second career nurses...and nurses in general. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:29 heathersebi98: No longer can we scare the tar out of students...we need to empower them to be the future of our careers. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:30 rnchat: @meducate You've inspired a new angle: Nursing should fund higher pay with derivatives & then proclaim itself Too Big To Fail. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:30 InfusionNurse: True but it happens.RT @EllenRichter: there really is no place for rudeness or an uppity attitude by any nurse, experienced or new. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:30 shawnta2231: RT @NursingCenter: RT @EllenRichter ABSOLUTELY! I think med/surg nurses--these days especially--need to get a medal of honor. High acuity, low staffing #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:31 shawnta2231: RT @onlinenursing: RT @DianaCCRN #RNChat Also some of older generation have issues respecting younger nurses w/ more experience.Good point-back 2 lat. violence 3/5/2010 21:31 shawnta2231: RT @philbaumann: Of course, if you started nursing as a first career, you probably don't know how much work yer doing compared to office workers ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:31 shawnta2231: RT @onlinenursing: T1 - interesting conversation. Here in SWMo, salaries are some of the lowest in nation for RN, NP, and academia. Great ideas guys #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:31 onlinenursing: RT @heathersebi98 It's imperative that we change R nursing education system 2 meet the needs of second career nurses & nurses in gen #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:32 NUR3563: RT @heathersebi98 It's imperative that we change R nursing education system 2 meet the needs of second career nurses & nurses in gen #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:32 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat T2 when you are the RN in the family,you are the advocate and the "defender".You R the one who chases down Doctors & hospital folks! 3/5/2010 21:32 nursingpins: MS is hard - compared to any specialty - you are right #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:32 nursingpins: MS requires so much time management - just to do the paper work #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:34
  • 11. EllenRichter: LOL I got nervous there with the barrage of RTs :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:34 RNMark: @NUR3563 Agreed. I'm a second career nurse had to work 50 hrs/wk and do the ADN. Lucky I'm still sane. Or not #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:34 PamelaKline: Do u think part of the reason for rudeness from older RN's is because they're intimidated by the newer RN? Power struggle maybe? #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:34 DianaCCRN: @InfusionNurse @EllenRichter #rnchat A good preceptor program helps. Also Hate that ' I am an RN so I am too good to do that' attitude. 3/5/2010 21:35 ocdgirl2000: @wendymindy79 add your #rnchat hashtag and join us!!! follow @rnchat hey phil! 3/5/2010 21:35 EllenRichter: Thats why there are so many incidents that occur on med/surg floor. Its a series of disasters waiting to happen--bless med/surg RNs #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:36 nursingpins: @PamelaKline One reason - they are so much more comfortable in the situation = makes it easy for them. #rnchat (but no excuse) 3/5/2010 21:36 EllenRichter: @PamelaKline Pam I think many older nurses just have shorter fuses & little patience to teach. They just want to do their work. :( #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:37 InfusionNurse: any thoughts on the opposite of T2 RN's seeking other degrees? #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:37 onlinenursing: @RNMark Mark! Gload to see you here. Love your pic (own a dachsund). Yes, Accelerated BSN for 2nd career RNs is where we should head #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:37 PamelaKline: 2 good to do that attitude-hate it: When I was a RN tech, 1 RN was too good to get bedpans, she'd get me even if I was busy! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:38 heathersebi98: @EllenRichter MS is the catch-all! Students should have to learn organization from there rather than thrown to ICU at graduation! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:38 EllenRichter: @InfusionNurse I know of RNs who go back for law degrees after many years in health care & are excellent health litigation attorneys #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:39 RNMark: @PamelaKline Nursing has evolved; older nurses haven't always accepted it. New nurses expect equality.vs hierarchy. #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:39 nursingpins: RT @heathersebi98: @EllenRichter MS is the catch-all! Students should have to learn organization from there rather than thrown to ICU at graduation! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:39 PamelaKline: @EllenRichter maybe-1 place I worked,there was 1 RN that ALWAYS intimidated nsg students, new RN's. I think she wanted the POWER:) #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:39
  • 12. rnchat: Funny: (Some) ICU nurses see Med/Surg nursing as a light-load, while Med/Surg nurses think 2 patients in ICU is a breeze. :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:39 EllenRichter: @heathersebi98 I cant agree with you more. Every single RN should have to start their career on med/surg for at least 2 years! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:39 DianaCCRN: @PamelaKline I work CCU and we do our own pt care. I teach that first to precptees. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:40 PamelaKline: @NursingCenter me 2! I never did either. I hardly ever had a RN aide to anything 4 me. I felt 2 guilty LOL! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:40 KPNurseRecruit: I have to zip my son to Sadie Hawkins dance tonight now. Great chatting with you all! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:40 EllenRichter: @Kineticycle Good luck in your new place!! Wow, you moved today and still have time to chat? :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:40 PamelaKline: @DianaCCRN that's great! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:41 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat I went back to school /divorcee with 2 kids,one disabled,2parents with cancer,& was in my 30's.I taught 15 aerobics classes a week. 3/5/2010 21:41 nursingpins: Medicine requires a hierarchy in critical decisions - #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:41 NursingCenter: @KPNurseRecruit Awww ~ fun! Have a good night! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:41 rnchat: It's all about perspective. No kind of nursing is harder or easier than another. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:42 RNMark: @onlinenursing Disagree. Accelerated BSN would require earnings disruption. Not living in van down by river. Need part time model #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:42 onlinenursing: @rnchat again-why can't we all just get along:)? R we so insecure that we feel we need to be 'better' than other nurses?lat.violence #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:42 EllenRichter: @rnchat Each nurse should have to switch for one week! Med surg go to ICU, ICU nurse work on med surg floor! Then report back! :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:42 Kineticycle: #RNchat we all seem to think everyone else has it easier than we do. We all are busy + should be thankful we get to choose our area of work. 3/5/2010 21:42 NursingCenter: @ocdgirl2000 I'm exhausted just reading that! Wow - how did you manage? #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:42
  • 13. DianaCCRN: Rule number one. Provide care for the patient FIRST. All inclusive task. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:43 onlinenursing: @RNMark ahhhh excellent point about #RNchat. So, how would a full time weekend model work? 12 hours 2 days? 3/5/2010 21:43 ocdgirl2000: #rnchat that was the fastest way I could make a buck and get free babysitting.child support was unreliable.. 3/5/2010 21:44 philbaumann: @EllenRichter @onlinenursing When I was bedside, I got the living s&*^ pulled outta me, so I know everybody's got their load. :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:44 Susie: really want to teach my mom to use twitter bc i think she'd love this #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:44 PamelaKline: RT @DianaCCRN: Rule number one. Provide care for the patient FIRST. All inclusive task. #rnchat #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:44 heathersebi98: Nursing programs: adapt to the change in student population...offer weekend/night classes. Working adults could both work and learn! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:44 grimalkinrn: #rnchat finally out with friends for a change!! Med surg RN!! 3/5/2010 21:44 EllenRichter: @DianaCCRN Diana, most days, after 12 hours, I still haven't gotten past rule number one! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:44 KPNurseRecruit: RT @NursingCenter @KPNurseRecruit Awww ~ fun! Have a good night! #rnchat Thank you! You too. 3/5/2010 21:44 NursingCenter: @EllenRichter After 8 years in ICU, I was completely overwhelmed when pulled to med- surg! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:44 Kineticycle: #RNchat Start Monday at Johns Hopkins in Balt, very excited! We all need more "exchange" programs to share perspectives + ideas. 3/5/2010 21:44 NursingCenter: RT @PamelaKline: RT @DianaCCRN: Rule number one. Provide care for the patient FIRST. All inclusive task. #rnchat #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:45 rnchat: @Susie We'd love to have her here! It's one of the reasons for it - to get more nurses involved. Show her slides @ http://RNchat.org #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:45 RNMark: @heathersebi98 Disagree. ICU vs MedSurg success may be more function of learning style, personality, and nurse cognition. Research? #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:45 EllenRichter: @ocdgirl2000 You really should write a book! I think everyone on Twitter who follow you would buy it! Thats a good $ million! ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:45
  • 14. DianaCCRN: @EllenRichter #RNchat it's a hard task but by far the most satisfying. 3/5/2010 21:46 EllenRichter: @NursingCenter Oh I'll bet. Sometimes I transfer out SUCH a heavy patient to a med/surg floor & the nurse has 5 others like mine!! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:47 ocdgirl2000: @NursingCenter #rnchat I'm getting a little teary eyed now..but I must have been very blessed. Very Blessed indeed!Good health for years! 3/5/2010 21:47 heathersebi98: @RNMark I totally see your point. But what about basic nsg organization. Learning to take care of 7 vs 2? BIG difference. Time mgt! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:47 EllenRichter: @rnchat LOL you got to @susie before me! I was gonna say the same thing ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:48 EllenRichter: @meducate Hey, are you calling us ODD? or just funny? ;) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:49 heathersebi98: And, let's face facts:a MS pt is not going to get the pt care that a ICU pt gets.There's just no enough time or hands! #RNchat (sad) 3/5/2010 21:49 rnchat: OK folks, time to wrap it up. Any pearls of wisdom before we finish? #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:49 onlinenursing: @EllenRichter level of acuity of medsurg pts makes me concerned that we may be burning out our great med surg. Med surge need 4-5. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:50 RNMark: @onlinenursing I was grad of Virginia Commonwealth Nursing Program (RIP) we did 2x8 and 2x12 shifts for clinical. Huge value add! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:50 grimalkinrn: #rnchat I have had my butt kicked on multiple floors. We should never assume anyone's load is light and stop looking down on one another. 3/5/2010 21:50 ocdgirl2000: @Kineticycle #rnchat oh Hopkins is awesome!! my son gets all of his care there!Sturge Weber Center for Excellence in in Kennedy Kreiger. 3/5/2010 21:50 EllenRichter: @rnchat My pearl of wisdom is a great big "thanks Phil" for thinking this whole thing up, so nurses and others can meet like this! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:50 RNMark: @onlinenursing Side point on pt census. As rehab nurse I carry 9 pt at night and am charge RN. #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:51 PamelaKline: Great topics Phil! Thanks:) #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:51 InfusionNurse: @rnchat ..Nurses rule!!! ...thanks for the great chat...have a great weekend! Till next chat!! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:51
  • 15. philbaumann: @EllenRichter Aw, shucks. It's such a fun thing to run. Very proud of nursing and what we can do with #RNchat no matter how small. :) 3/5/2010 21:52 EllenRichter: @RNMark Just out of curiosity, is your rehab staffing safe? I would imagine you have more ancillary help too? #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:52 ocdgirl2000: #RNCHAT pearl of wisdom. make sure you study and KNOW the USA Federal and STATE EMPLOYMENT LAWS. especially the EEOC rights that YOU have! 3/5/2010 21:52 Cathy_Robinson: RT @rnchat: Funny: (Some) ICU nurses see Med/Surg nursing as a light-load, while Med/Surg nurses think 2 patients in ICU is a breeze. :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:52 onlinenursing: #RNChat @EllenRichter - agree... thanks to Phil. Also - I love nursing-always wanted 2 B 1 & want 2 B 1 forever.We will fix h/c.GO NURSING! 3/5/2010 21:53 EllenRichter: @philbaumann Its really taken off nicely. Everyone knows to look for #RNchat every week & thats so important! :) 3/5/2010 21:53 Cathy_Robinson: RT @onlinenursing: @rnchat again-why can't we all just get along:)? R we so insecure that we feel we need to be 'better' than other nurses?lat.violence #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:53 NursingCenter: RT @onlinenursing: #RNChat I love nursing-always wanted 2 B 1 & want 2 B 1 forever.We will fix h/c.GO NURSING! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:54 EllenRichter: RT @NursingCenter Treat other nurses as you would like and expect to be treated. We are in this together - for the good of our pts. #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:54 Cathy_Robinson: RT @philbaumann: @EllenRichter @onlinenursing When I was bedside, I got the living s&*^ pulled outta me, so I know everybody's got their load. :) #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:54 RNMark: @heathersebi98 ICU pt requires more depth and system thinking. some folks better at deep concentration with smaller span #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:54 NUR3563: RT @InfusionNurse: @rnchat ..Nurses rule!!! ...thanks for the great chat...have a great weekend! Till next chat!! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:54 onlinenursing: RT @InfusionNurse: @rnchat ..Nurses rule!!! ...thanks for the great chat...have a great weekend! Till next chat!! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:54 Cathy_Robinson: RT @NursingCenter: @EllenRichter After 8 years in ICU, I was completely overwhelmed when pulled to med-surg! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:54 PamelaKline: RT @NursingCenter: Treat other nurses as u would like and expect 2 b treated. We are in this together - for the good of our pts. #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:54
  • 16. Kineticycle: #RNchat Pearl of wisdon: avoid cranial / rectal inversion as much as possible, be nice, forgive often and smile more. 3/5/2010 21:54 Cathy_Robinson: RT @ocdgirl2000: @NursingCenter #rnchat I'm getting a little teary eyed now..but I must have been very blessed. Very Blessed indeed!Good health for years! 3/5/2010 21:55 nursingpins: nursingpins Don't forget to re-clamp the foley drainage tubes when you do your I's & O's - :) #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:55 NursingCenter: Thanks Phil and RNchat friends! Have a great night everyone! #rnchat 3/5/2010 21:55 PamelaKline: @Kineticycle LOL, great advice!!! #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:55 rnchat: RT @Kineticycle: #RNchat Pearl of wisdon: avoid cranial / rectal inversion as much as possible, be nice, forgive often & smile more. #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:55 Cathy_Robinson: RT @EllenRichter: @rnchat My pearl of wisdom is a great big "thanks Phil" for thinking this whole thing up, so nurses and others can meet like this! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:55 rnchat: THANK YOU everybody!!! Another great chat. There are so many more topics that grow out of the topics, it's amazing! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:56 heathersebi98: @RNMark I agree whole heartedly...but is that what we want to train new nurses to do? Think narrowly? #RNChat (playing devils advocate) 3/5/2010 21:56 nursingpins: Thanks to Phil and all - gn. #rnchat & nurses. 3/5/2010 21:56 RNMark: @EllenRichter Rehab staffing assumes healthy patients. Co-morbids get you every time... no one expects heart block, repeat stroke :) #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:56 nursingpins: RT @Kineticycle: #RNchat Pearl of wisdon: avoid cranial / rectal inversion as much as possible, be nice, forgive often and smile more. 3/5/2010 21:57 EllenRichter: TOUCHE! RT @Kineticycle #RNchat Pearl of wisdom~avoid cranial/rectal inversion as much as possible, be nice, forgive often and smile more. 3/5/2010 21:57 NUR3563: RT @Kineticycle #RNchat Pearl of wisdom~avoid cranial/rectal inversion as much as possible, be nice, forgive often and smile more. 3/5/2010 21:58 RNMark: @heathersebi98 training new nurses is one thing.. every one starts as m/s +psych nurse, specialties have unique cognitive needs IMHO #RNChat 3/5/2010 21:59 ocdgirl2000: @EllenRichter #rnchat I was thinking if I retired early,would it be too late to go back to school and get a law degree? 60yrs old?LOL! 3/5/2010 21:59
  • 17. EllenRichter: @RNMark Yes, I'll bet comorbidities are a staffing killer. I havent had a patient lately that doesnt have 8 medical diagnoses! #RNchat 3/5/2010 21:59 rnchat: I'll post a transcript of this chat - it'll be up tomorrow. Cheers everybody! Enjoy your weekend! #RNchat 3/5/2010 22:00