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RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010
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RNchat Transcript May 11, 2010

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Transcript of RNchat, a Twitter chat for registered nurses, for Tuesday May 11, 2010 …

Transcript of RNchat, a Twitter chat for registered nurses, for Tuesday May 11, 2010

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T1 National Nurse: We've discussed this before, but let's revisit. HR4601 proposes an Office of the Nat'l Nurse. Discuss pros/cons

T2 The Old Degree Requirements Debate: Some Philly hospitals have started requiring BSNs. http://bit.ly/bWmarL - Please discuss.

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  • 1. 15 minutes until #RNchat - consider using http://TweetChat.com or http://TweetGrid.com 5/11/2010 11:45 rnchat: Today's #RNchat is starting in 5 minutes. We're also on Facebook - http://Facebook.com/RNchat 5/11/2010 11:55 rnchat: Welcome to #RNchat during National Nurses Week! We'll get started in a moment. First: introduce yourselves! 5/11/2010 12:00 rnchat: @BonnieRN Hi Bonnie! Welcome! The itinerary of the chat is just spontaneous for the participants! We go with the flow! :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:01 EllenRichter: #RNchat http://TweetChat.com is not letting me in. Can we chat via Facebook? 5/11/2010 12:01 NurseTeriA: @RNchat #rnchat can't wait for the topics today 5/11/2010 12:02 visiting_nurse: Hey Terri here. RN only 15 years now. Happy NURSES week all! #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:02 onlinenursing: @NurseTeriA Just use twitter search & search for #RNchat ~As new tweets come, it tells you to refresh 5/11/2010 12:03 EllenRichter: Matthew here, didn't think I'd make it, RN, MSN, CEO, etc, Happy Nurses' Week everyone! #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:04 MatthewBrowning: Hi to @onlinenursing @visiting_nurse @philbaumann @NurseTeriA and anyone new who came! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:04 EllenRichter: #RNChat are we live and do I get the info via scroll on: http://www.rnchat.org/ (is that right?) 5/11/2010 12:05 BonnieRN: @RNchat #RNchat before we get going, I want to send a shout out to scrubsandbeyond. My friends sister lost everything in Nashville. An RN. 5/11/2010 12:05 grimalkinrn: I'm Ellen, a critical care nurse, off today! I am also a legal nurse consultant & today, I'm my own lawn service :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:05 EllenRichter: #RNchat Hi to everyone, are we waiting for Phil to set the agenda? 5/11/2010 12:05 NurseTeriA: @RNchat @scrubsandbeyond are sending her new uniforms!! I am in no way affiliated!! So happy right now. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:06 grimalkinrn: I'm Nicole, just a pre-nursing student. Love to lurk though! These chats are so interesting. #rnchat HauteSingleMama:
  • 2. 5/11/2010 12:06 @grimalkinrn Wow, I'm soooo sorry to hear that!! Prayers for your sister!!! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:06 EllenRichter: #RNChat Hi all! Happy Nurses Week. Who is moderator? Is that you, Phil or @EllenRichter ? 5/11/2010 12:06 BonnieRN: @grimalkinrn I mean.... Oh man, can we do anything to help? #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:07 onlinenursing: Hi everyone. I'm Cora, infusion nurse educator and consultant. Glad to be here! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:07 InfusionNurse: First topic coming up in a moment. One on legislation and another on education reqs. Please prepend your responses with T1, T2, etc. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:07 rnchat: RT Today's #RNchat is starting in 5 minutes. We're also on Facebook - http://Facebook.com/RNchat http://bit.ly/bBOOaE 5/11/2010 12:07 visiting_nurse: T1 National Nurse: We've discussed this before, but let's revisit. HR4601 proposes an Office of the Nat'l Nurse. Discuss pros/cons #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:07 rnchat: Hi All, Laura a 3rd year Student in Hamilton Scotland. Just Lurking really #RNchat #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:08 ljayf: @BonnieRN Its Phil today, and use twitterchat, tweetgrid or twitter's search for #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:08 EllenRichter: Hi, I'm Gerard. Not an RN but work closely with RNs! Do tons of facilitation/training in health care re: collaborative teamwork! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:08 Trybarefoot: T1 - #RNChat - office of national nurse, will it help standardize nursing education and practice, give us voice? Then Pro :) 5/11/2010 12:09 onlinenursing: T1 Good question Phil~ When I started reading about the new role I was pleased & impressed...thought to myself "Finally!!" #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:09 EllenRichter: T1 - seems like a good idea..haven't heard much about it lately. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:09 InfusionNurse: #RNChat I am so sad that the chat is not working 5/11/2010 12:09 NurseTeriA: @RNchat I will miss #RNchat One day I'll be home to participate. 5/11/2010 12:10 seejanenurse: #RNChat If anyone has anything to say or ask about the National Nurse Act of 2010, please email teri@nationalnurse.info 5/11/2010 12:10 NurseTeriA:
  • 3. @ljayf @Trybarefoot @NursePru @BonnieRN Welcome folks ~Even lurkers :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:10 EllenRichter: Try again, im on tweechat and its working..RT @NurseTeriA: #RNChat I am so sad that the chat is not working #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:11 InfusionNurse: @onlinenursing @scrubsandbeyond #rnchat It's my friend's sister, and really, the best thing to do is donate to the Red Cross. #nashville 5/11/2010 12:11 grimalkinrn: #RNchat TweetDeck working too... 5/11/2010 12:11 visiting_nurse: @NurseTeriA Tweetgrid is working fine too! :( #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:11 EllenRichter: @RNchat absent personal transformation (a la Deming, ie., let it begin with me....) nothing likely to come from it; just sayin' #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:13 2healthguru: T1 Its a high level position mainly focused on public health aspects, but its on line with Surgeon General, I think #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:13 EllenRichter: RT @EllenRichter T1 Good question~ When I started reading about the new role I was pleased & impressed-thought to myself "Finally!!" #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:13 onlinenursing: T1 #RNchat http://bit.ly/98KeRt @NurseTeriA what wuld u say the main driver is on the legislation how will it advance nursing? 5/11/2010 12:13 visiting_nurse: t1 #rnchat I thnk the office of National Nurse will go a long way toward changing the perception the public has of nursing. Thrilled. 5/11/2010 12:13 grimalkinrn: @RNchat @EllenRichter @NurseTeriA The chat is working . How do we help get teri in? #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:14 BonnieRN: T1 - #RNchat Much in favor of national office to improve political leverage 5/11/2010 12:14 andyatFAD: T1 Well, I'm hoping that what comes of it includes a renewed respect for the true role of the professional RN in the public eye #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:14 EllenRichter: RT @EllenRichter: T1 Well, I'm hoping that what comes of it includes a renewed respect for the true role of the professional RN in the public eye #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:15 grimalkinrn: T1 Gonna linger a while but not sure I can offer any value to this conversation :( #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:15 Trybarefoot: @2healthguru so often govt offices R as U say.However,simply hving nurse consideredonlinenursing:
  • 4. high enough 2 advise says alot abt nursing #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:16 @EllenRichter Great minds....... #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:16 grimalkinrn: @grimalkinrn, @EllenRichter, @andyatFAD - Agreed! #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:16 onlinenursing: T1 - I'm also hoping that the position will not be political... :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:17 InfusionNurse: @InfusionNurse t1 I think the position will almost have to be political in some respects - unfortunately? #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:18 bthenextstep: T1 It is an honor that a nurse has been placed in such a high position in the national heirarchy, but power may not be included yet #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:18 EllenRichter: #RNChat Earl Blumenauer has introduced The National Nurse Act. We need the specific help of nurses see http://bonniern.com/?p=261 on how 2 5/11/2010 12:18 BonnieRN: T1 - #RNchat @iInfusionNurse Interesting. Wouldn't we WANT this office to be political? Or do you mean GOP/Dem kind of thing? 5/11/2010 12:19 andyatFAD: That might be a tough wish!! RT @InfusionNurse: T1 - I'm also hoping that the position will not be political... :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:19 EllenRichter: @onlinenursing Agree on the 'standing' benefit; though issue is perhaps more granular; though part of solution I guess... #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:19 2healthguru: @EllenRichter t1 i guess 'power' is a strong description. maybe advocate?? hmm #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:19 bthenextstep: @Trybarefoot Hey! Linger all you want. Good 2 see you @ #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:21 onlinenursing: @EllenRichter t1 i guess 'power' is a strong description. maybe advocate?? hmm #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:21 bthenextstep: Yes...that one... RT @andyatFAD: T1 - @iInfusionNurse Interesting. Or do you mean GOP/Dem kind of thing? #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:21 InfusionNurse: @onlinenursing Thx! Its all making me very curious - note to self to do some F/U reading! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:22 Trybarefoot: RT @NurseTeriA #RNChat If anyone has anything to say or ask about the National Nurse Act of 2010, please email teri@nationalnurse.info 5/11/2010 12:22 BonnieRN:
  • 5. RT @NurseTeriA #RNChat If anyone has anything to say or ask about the National Nurse Act of 2010, please email teri@nationalnurse.info 5/11/2010 12:22 BonnieRN: @2healthguru T1 We cant possibly think negatively abt the role when its such a positive change 4 our profession: maybe the right RN? #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:23 EllenRichter: T1 - #RNchat @InfusionNurse Gotcha. Well, the Surg Gen office is supposedly nonpolitical but, um, can I just say C. Everett Koop? 5/11/2010 12:23 andyatFAD: #RNChat The National Nurse Act needs the help of nurses contacting their gov rep plz contact teri@nationalnurse.info or C http://is.gd/c4qAz 5/11/2010 12:24 BonnieRN: T1 increases visibility for nurses in a positive light- hope there is substance to position #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:25 MatthewBrowning: T1 - a position w/ power and influence...to promote our profession...fight political barriers to progress. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:25 InfusionNurse: Substance Yes RT @MatthewBrowning: T1 increases visibility for nurses in a positive light- hope there is substance to position #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:25 visiting_nurse: On the go today but hello to #RNCHAT nurses...will read and RT later. Go RNs! RT @RNchat: Welcome to #RNchat during National Nurses Week! 5/11/2010 12:25 holisticnurses: Next topic coming up a a couple minutes! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:26 rnchat: @EllenRichter hah i guess it's in my DNA; though Deming's pitch is directed to us all! Way too much ego out there; not enuff heart.. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:26 2healthguru: RT @BonnieRN: RT @NurseTeriA #RNChat If anyone has anything to say or ask about the National Nurse Act of 2010, please email teri@nationalnurse.info 5/11/2010 12:26 holisticnurses: T1 is it not good to have someone in High political role too?? Scotlands Health Minister is an ex nurse. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:26 ljayf: T1 Are there similar high-level roles in other countries? Which ones? #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:26 Trybarefoot: Maybe I should have said... illness prevention or health maintenance T1 #rnchat Regardless of politics, I think many nurses agree on this. 5/11/2010 12:26 grimalkinrn: Yeah! RT @InfusionNurse: T1 - a position w/ power and influence...to promote our profession...fight political barriers to progress. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:26 MatthewBrowning:
  • 6. @InfusionNurse Amen!Not only 4 R profession, but 4 R patients. Hello, everyone needs a nurse and needs what we do. We are experts! #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:27 onlinenursing: T1 agree with @EllenRichter. As long as the right RN is in this role...I see no negatives here. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:27 NursePru: @2healthguru agreed. More heart! That is what health care needs in general (and politics) #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:27 onlinenursing: RT @MatthewBrowning: RT @InfusionNurse: T1 - a position w/ power and influence...to promote our profession. #RNchat Agree fully. This is key 5/11/2010 12:28 andyatFAD: T2 The Old Degree Requirements Debate: Some Philly hospitals have started requiring BSNs. http://bit.ly/bWmarL - Please discuss. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:28 rnchat: THAT's good news! RT @grimalkinrn: t1 #rnchat I think you will see a huge focus on health prevention...from the Nat. RN 5/11/2010 12:28 Trybarefoot: RT @EllenRichter: Heres a link >> "Read The Bill: H.R. 4601 - GovTrack.us" http://j.mp/9kNvL1 #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:28 holisticnurses: RT @Trybarefoot: THAT's good news! RT @grimalkinrn: t1 #rnchat I think you will see a huge focus on health prevention...from the Nat. RN 5/11/2010 12:29 holisticnurses: #RNchat T2 My hospital will start requiring BSNs in the next several years, but they are also providing generous tuition reimbursement. 5/11/2010 12:29 grimalkinrn: @BonnieRN Great blog Bonnie...very informative #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:29 EllenRichter: T2 #RNchat I think we will see more of a trend toward BSNs, and I think this is wrong. ADN nurses spend more time at the bedside than BSNs. 5/11/2010 12:29 grimalkinrn: T1 Actual Quote "The National Nurse shall have the same rank and grade as the Deputy Surgeon General of the Public Health Service" #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:30 EllenRichter: Um....why cant I find T2 ??? :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:31 EllenRichter: T2 #rnchat I wouldn't mind a requirement for more Ed for all RNs, but students I see are not prepped for caring for patients, just tests 5/11/2010 12:31 grimalkinrn: @onlinenursing As Director of Medical Affairs 4 large CO regional hospital, I opened vs; locked down med staff org 2 nursing #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:31 2healthguru:
  • 7. T2 I think the PA hospitals r missing out on great nurses. ADN schools r some of the best. Some MD hospitals are doing this too. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:32 NursePru: RT @EllenRichter: T1 Actual Quote "The National Nurse shall have the same rank and grade as the Deputy Surgeon General of the Public Health Service" #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:32 DianeSieg: @EllenRichter I was wondering the same thing T2 - #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:32 onlinenursing: #RNchat Nice learning with you! Off to a conf call. Happy Ntl Nursing Week! Nursing: You Canʼt Live Without It! http://bit.ly/dfXxOH 5/11/2010 12:32 Trybarefoot: Ahhh, I found it!! T2 I have been a big proponent of raising the minimum RN requirement to BSN degree for years. We need to. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:33 EllenRichter: #RNchat t2 bsn as a requirement is a tough debate. rn vs bsn at the beside? i think no difference. 5/11/2010 12:33 bthenextstep: @2healthguru COOL! Good for you doing that #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:34 onlinenursing: t2 #RNchat again, I don't have a problem with national standard for nursing Ed. However, it should not leave existing RNs in the cold. 5/11/2010 12:34 grimalkinrn: t2 #rnchat Diploma nurses I know are my idols. I want to be them when I grow up. Are we really going to tell them their Ed. is insufficient? 5/11/2010 12:35 grimalkinrn: t2 won't this bsn requirmnt put a large stall on the nursing shortage?? #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:35 bthenextstep: @bthenextstep T2 How do we compete/equate w/ our colleagues in nutrition, pharmacy or Phys Therapy who all have masters degrees? #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:35 EllenRichter: t2 bsn prepared rn is for the step beyond the bedside. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:36 bthenextstep: @grimalkinrn T2 - #RNChat U have hit on big issue 4 nursing ed entirely.Also,some BSN dont send faculty 2suprvs students,thus dcrsed lrning 5/11/2010 12:36 onlinenursing: #rnchat T2 I could not have afforded a BSN program. I am proud of my ADN, worked full time through school to get it. ADN doesn't = bad RN 5/11/2010 12:37 grimalkinrn: T2 - #RNChat I agree BSN education. Let's not handicap R students or profession out of the gate by making them go back to school to move up. 5/11/2010 12:37 onlinenursing: T2 Maybe require to start a BSN within 5 yrs. I'm all for more edu, but we need RNs now.NursePru:
  • 8. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:37 T2 - #RNchat Amazing we're still talking about this. Reminds me of the nation trying to go metric. Makes perfect sense, won't happen. 5/11/2010 12:38 andyatFAD: T2 #rnchat Does anyone have a percentage of new ADNs vs BSNs each year, I would be interested to know if this is realistic in the long term. 5/11/2010 12:38 grimalkinrn: @bthenextstep T2 We differ, my friend. I believe there is no better bedside practitioner than the masters prepared ones! Higher ed!! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:38 EllenRichter: t2 no doubt the bsn can/will improve our profession. hard 2 compare us 2 other professions w degrees d/t didactic nature of our work #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:38 bthenextstep: t2 #rnchat Right now the economy is buffering the nsg shortage, ppl can't afford healthcare. That is going to change, ADNS will be necessary 5/11/2010 12:38 grimalkinrn: @andyatFAD AMEN! #RNchat :) 5/11/2010 12:39 onlinenursing: @andyatFAD LOL I hate to have to agree but I believe you are right! "Makes sense, but wont happen" #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:39 EllenRichter: T2 #RNchat My nightmare is that ADNs will be treated as the LPNs were, which is wrong. We all take the same board. 5/11/2010 12:39 grimalkinrn: T2- #RNChat Research says BSN nurses stay longer in job at bedside than ADN, also their patients have better outcomes. So much for EBP. 5/11/2010 12:40 onlinenursing: @EllenRichter t2 and there is a grave difference between edu vs skill. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:40 bthenextstep: t2 problem is it's not a cut/dry debate. too many variables. 2 many levels. each has its place. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:41 bthenextstep: T2 #rnchat what really needs to be done for both degrees is getting these students more prepared. Shocked at how many don't know basic care. 5/11/2010 12:41 grimalkinrn: T2 Know what? We are short RNs? Let me highly train 2 nurses aides to work with me & I will take on more pts. Make BSN as minimum #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:42 EllenRichter: T2 #rnchat In my role, I precept ADN and BSN students. Neither of them are adequately prepared. So what can we do to improve SKILL TRAINING? 5/11/2010 12:43 grimalkinrn:
  • 9. @EllenRichter now isn't that going backwards?? t2. equating an aide to an RN's job?? c'mon now. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:43 bthenextstep: T2 #RNchat Market drives need. It looks for cheaper ways of obtaining same/similar results. Occupations tend to split, not shrink. 5/11/2010 12:44 andyatFAD: T2 I spend so much patient-care time doing non-RN functions. Give me more ancillary help & I will achieve any goals in nursing. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:44 EllenRichter: t2 once again skill and educ are opp ends of the pole. 100% believe more educ is paramount. but educ doesn't = skill #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:44 bthenextstep: @EllenRichter T2 #RNchat They aren't going to let RNs train Nsg Aides. And we really should. CNA trng is a whole other problem. 5/11/2010 12:44 grimalkinrn: Gonna have to sign off...thanks everyone and @philbaumann...also, pls. join the first #IVchat May 13 at 12N. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:44 InfusionNurse: @InfusionNurse thanks for joining! take care! #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:45 bthenextstep: T2 Skill training comes with appropriate experiences & more than one or 2. There needs to be a bridge betw school & full-time work #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:45 EllenRichter: @EllenRichter T2 #RNchat You are so right. I could do much more if I had more help. More Education, more care. 5/11/2010 12:46 grimalkinrn: RT @EllenRichter: T2 Skill training comes with appropriate experiences & more than one or 2. There needs to be a bridge betw school & full-time work #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:46 grimalkinrn: @InfusionNurse I'm so excited for your new Infusion Chat! I work Thursday but cant wait to come to a future one! Take care! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:46 EllenRichter: @bthenextstep However,more ed=chance 2 improve skill & B exposed 2 new things,as U will soon learn.It also helps w/critical thinking #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:46 onlinenursing: @InfusionNurse Bye! See you next time in #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:46 onlinenursing: @InfusionNurse Thanks for stopping by! Good luck with #IVchat next week! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:46 philbaumann: t2 i think higher educ is a must. but to make it an entrance req is prob not the answer. not with the state of our prof right now. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:47 bthenextstep:
  • 10. T2 Yes, I believe nurses need an "internship" period where they have limited responsibility under the wings of an experienced RN #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:48 EllenRichter: t2 some of the best rn's ive learned from and worked with are ADN. high educ is not THE only answer. imho #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:49 bthenextstep: #RNchat Nice learning with you! Off to a conf call. Happy Ntl Nursing Week! Nursing: You Canʼt Live Without It! 5/11/2010 12:50 Trybarefoot: T2 I think one of the reasons we are in a state of confusion surrounding our profession is due to the many ways we can become RNs! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:50 EllenRichter: T2 great to strive for- not realistic in near future- after baby boomers cared for would be a way to limit provider #s again #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:51 MatthewBrowning: @EllenRichter amen! Again I will say that research shows BSN nurses stay employed longer at bedside and have improved pt. outcomes #RNchat. 5/11/2010 12:51 onlinenursing: T2 No one is saying ADN or diploma grads are worse nurses. We just need to be standardized, one way, one route. Might as well be BSN #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:51 EllenRichter: RT @Trybarefoot: #RNchat Nice learning with you! Off to a conf call. Happy Ntl Nursing Week! Nursing: You Canʼt Live Without It! 5/11/2010 12:51 MatthewBrowning: RT @EllenRichter: T2 I think one of the reasons we are in a state of confusion surrounding our profession is due to the many ways we can become RNs! #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:51 grimalkinrn: @EllenRichter yep. agree with the confusion in ways to become an RN. but making bsn a req still is not the answer. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:51 bthenextstep: @EllenRichter i'm with you on the standardization. I just get defensive with the bsn req that's all. there is more to us than a deg #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:52 bthenextstep: T2 Definitely a very debatable topic! There has always been a big division between those who want BSN as minimum & those who dont. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:53 EllenRichter: Thanks! Barb,do u know #RNChat ?check it out RT @BarbaraFicarra: Nice! RT @MatthewBrowning Finally a cure for CNSS ;-) http://bit.ly/be2R0C 5/11/2010 12:54 MatthewBrowning: t2 there has to be a happy medium that elicits the most benefit to the profession. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:54 bthenextstep: @bthenextstep I understand your feeling defensive. But if we must standardize, its sensible to make our minimum @ least 4-yr degree? #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:54 EllenRichter:
  • 11. Grrrrr I forgot the darn T2 #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:55 EllenRichter: @bthenextstep #RNChat Agree there is more 2 us than degree :)but there has 2B a quant.measrble way 2 say what entry 2 practice is bestpart 1 5/11/2010 12:55 onlinenursing: @EllenRichter and i would disagree with a stand of bsn. :) #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:55 bthenextstep: We're coming up on an hour! We'll wrap up in a few. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:56 rnchat: @grimalkinrn @bthenextstep This is why we would have to "grandfather" all RNs before a certain year. Then after that all RNs are BSN #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:56 EllenRichter: @bthenextstep #RNChat - part 2- this is called a standard & any organization/program/job/univ. has these for all their positions & licensing 5/11/2010 12:56 onlinenursing: @bthenextstep T2 @EllenRichter #rnchat I would also disagree that the standard should be BSN. It is not reasonable or affordable for many. 5/11/2010 12:56 grimalkinrn: T2 We need more nurses-anyway they come is better than not having them there at all- after sufficient workforce exists, then consider #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:57 MatthewBrowning: t2 i believe in the bsn. but not as a stand entr req. i know i know. goin in circles. just feel there is a better way. #rnchat 5/11/2010 12:57 bthenextstep: t2 #rnchat If ADN programs were closed, effect on the nursing shortage would be devastating. Not reasonable when so many leave the bedside. 5/11/2010 12:58 grimalkinrn: @grimalkinrn ADN nurses are great!We just needed to be giving BSN's w/that great ed- which means some more gen ed & few more classes #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:58 onlinenursing: @grimalkinrn T2 Well then we would have to have our new Govt-created RN role create grants for RNs to get BSNs easily! :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:58 EllenRichter: @onlinenursing T2 - NClex is that standard #RNChat the rest seems divisive #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:58 MatthewBrowning: Just one final fyi #RNChat it takes our student an average of 6 semesters (3 yrs) to get ASN, plus a yr of prereqs. Why not BSN? 5/11/2010 12:58 onlinenursing: OK - we're at the end of the #RNchat show! Let's wrap up with parting thoughts. 5/11/2010 12:59 rnchat: Attention: out friend @InfusionNurse is starting the first #IVchat on May 13 at 12n ET.rnchat:
  • 12. Hope you can stop by. #RNchat 5/11/2010 12:59 RT @MatthewBrowning: @onlinenursing T2 - NClex is that standard #RNChat the rest seems divisive #RNChat 5/11/2010 12:59 grimalkinrn: @MatthewBrowning I agree. We have a standard, the NCLEX. #RNChat T2 5/11/2010 13:00 grimalkinrn: t2 we need a 'bridge' for this bsn debate. something to better the prof, the indiv nurses and the pts. what that is - not sure? #rnchat 5/11/2010 13:00 bthenextstep: @EllenRichter T2 #RNchat I don't think we can shoulder 4 year degrees vs 2-3 year degrees at this time. We need RNs faster. 5/11/2010 13:00 grimalkinrn: My parting thought is that all of us are a great & cohesive group of Twitter RNs no matter what our credentials or views are~ :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 13:01 EllenRichter: @onlinenursing I think this is because more ADN students are likely to do prereqs at night, during summers, etc. than BSN #RNChat T2 5/11/2010 13:02 grimalkinrn: t2 - loved the debate! loved it. I appreciate everyone's honest and critically valued thoughts. :) #rnchat 5/11/2010 13:03 bthenextstep: LOL I'm a nurse since the mid-70's & this was as heated a discussion THEN as it is today! :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 13:03 EllenRichter: Make the end to 2010 National Nurses' Week awesome! Stay Safe and Heal thy patients ;-) !! Peace, M #RNChat 5/11/2010 13:03 MatthewBrowning: Hey, @philbaumann thanks for a great hour of chat. Good topics. Great turn out! Have a good afternoon! #RNchat 5/11/2010 13:04 EllenRichter: LOL! never ends! RT @EllenRichter: LOL I'm a nurse since the mid-70's & this was as heated a discussion THEN as it is today! :) #RNchat 5/11/2010 13:04 MatthewBrowning: #RNCHAT T2 I also love these debates!! They make me feel refreshed and give me info I can take to work! 5/11/2010 13:04 grimalkinrn: @EllenRichter My pleasure! Thanks for joining. #RNchat 5/11/2010 13:05 philbaumann: t2 *high fives* all around the tweet table. thanks everyone! #rnchat 5/11/2010 13:05 bthenextstep: @grimalkinrn - nope that statistic for our students is strictly once they enter the programonlinenursing:
  • 13. and do all nursing - 6 semesters. #RNCHAT 5/11/2010 13:06 THANK YOU everybody! Our next #RNchat is this Friday 11:30am EST. Topic suggestions welcome! Transcript of today's chat will be up soon! 5/11/2010 13:06 rnchat: @philbaumann Yes, back to my lawn work now. I need to take advantage of the clouds, since its very hot out! Bye folks! #RNchat 5/11/2010 13:06 EllenRichter: RT @EllenRichter: AMen to that. I love talking with nurses on twitter! Great thoughts all! THanks Phil #RNChat 5/11/2010 13:06 onlinenursing: have a great day everyone! thanks again Phil #rnchat 5/11/2010 13:07 bthenextstep: @MatthewBrowning My sister was just pinned and graduated with her RN Friday & Sat. perfect way to end nurses week!!! #RNChat 5/11/2010 13:15 jackiehotton: #ePatient #ePatient #RNChat #hcsmeu #hcsm Breaking the... - #rnchat - FriendFeed: http://url4.eu/3KR9y 5/11/2010 13:30 _ePatient:

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