PhiloWeb panel“Philosophy” of the Web                       Larry Masinter                       April 17, 2012           ...
Some PhiloWeb Observations•   URIs aren’t identifiers•   “Resources” don’t exist•   Persistence = meaning•   Naming is pri...
Need better theories• Meaning  Need to talk about security, privacy, provenance:  – Use communication model, not semantic ...
Economics and Meaning• Economics  – Economy of ideas  – Ownership of names  – Ownership of ideas  – IPR  – Indirect moneti...
Economics of naming• Being able to name something gives you power  over it…• Being able to tell people what a name means  ...
MIME gives the web:  persistent names for languages– “persistent”– “name for”– “language”
Language, File Format,              Protocol, Interface• A language is a way of giving meaning to data  “Given some data, ...
What is a name?  How does MIME name languages?• A name is protocol element  – with some structure  – used in other languag...
Persistent names• languages change: how can names be  persistent?• With no evolution, updates, extensions to  languages us...
Languages and Implementations• Languages (as with protocols, protocol elements,  file formats, APIs) are used between syst...
Languages and Specifications• Specifications are documents that describe a  language and rules for implementations  – How ...
Standards for Languages• Standards represent agreements among  implementations (in the form of a  specification)
Persistent names for languages•   What is persistent about the name for a language?•   What is it that the name of a langu...
Persistence and Evolution• When a language evolves, it keeps its name• A new language, even if it isn’t very different,  w...
“language” is over-simplification• Languages (file formats, protocols, protocol  elements) are defined in terms of others•...
Implementations evolve•   The language is “as spoken”, not “as defined”•   Concrete and abstract languages•   References t...
specifications describe Languages• References in specifications: how do rules  apply when referenced specification is  upd...
More complexities• Content negotiation  – Different “representations” for same “resource”• Polyglot  – Same content in mul...
Registry• A way of naming something  – Organization to manage registry  – Key role of registry is to manage updates     • ...
Persistent name problems• Forking (HTML)• Versioning (javascript)• References• Compound languages (HTML + RDFa/lite + SVG ...
Content negotiation  – Which languages do you understand?  – Which languages can you speak to me?• MIME types don’t help m...
Persistent names and versions• “version” parameter requires future proofing• In-band version identifiers might be preferab...
Being able to name language =         control over language• Politics / Economics of standards• “Owning” the standard  – K...
Wealth of Nations• Boundary of nations  – Internet communities transcend  – Social organizations over the Internet  – Gove...
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PhiloWeb panel. "Philosophy" of the Web

  1. 1. PhiloWeb panel“Philosophy” of the Web Larry Masinter April 17, 2012 Some credentials: Chair, URI Working Group, IETF, 90’s Chair, HTTP working group, IETF, 90’s Chair, Scientific Advisory Board, RealNames Corporation W3C TAG
  2. 2. Some PhiloWeb Observations• URIs aren’t identifiers• “Resources” don’t exist• Persistence = meaning• Naming is printing money• Resources are angels, URIs are pins• Languages ≠Specifications ≠ Implementations
  3. 3. Need better theories• Meaning Need to talk about security, privacy, provenance: – Use communication model, not semantic model – Ontologies are backwards• Identity – Individuals – Organizations• Persistence
  4. 4. Economics and Meaning• Economics – Economy of ideas – Ownership of names – Ownership of ideas – IPR – Indirect monetization – “Nation” => “Internet group”
  5. 5. Economics of naming• Being able to name something gives you power over it…• Being able to tell people what a name means gives you power to control access to it – People think they’re buying names, but buying a SLA to be the authority that people will use • domain names • DOIs • Selling certificates – Search Engines usurp name ownership – SOPA, PIPA force name resolution
  6. 6. MIME gives the web: persistent names for languages– “persistent”– “name for”– “language”
  7. 7. Language, File Format, Protocol, Interface• A language is a way of giving meaning to data “Given some data, what does it mean?”• “File format”: a kind of language (binary) languages• Languages have syntax & vocabulary• Languages usually use other languages – protocol element (a little language) – abstract language (defined in terms of structure) – layer (SVG on XML on Unicode)• “URI” is a language, JavaScript, CSS are languages
  8. 8. What is a name? How does MIME name languages?• A name is protocol element – with some structure – used in other languages, protocols, apis, interfaces – Which has some meaning• Meaning of MIME types – “which language should be used to interpret this data”
  9. 9. Persistent names• languages change: how can names be persistent?• With no evolution, updates, extensions to languages used in the web: no problemsCORE• How do languages change?• What are problems with MIME during evolution?
  10. 10. Languages and Implementations• Languages (as with protocols, protocol elements, file formats, APIs) are used between systems to communicate• Systems using a language should mean the “same” thing• Need agreement between the systems that are communicatingInteroperability is a property of implementations,not specifications
  11. 11. Languages and Specifications• Specifications are documents that describe a language and rules for implementations – How implementations should “understand” the language/API/protocol/protocol element’Implementations to guide and validate single-user• Many specifications used to define a single language• What happens as those evolve?
  12. 12. Standards for Languages• Standards represent agreements among implementations (in the form of a specification)
  13. 13. Persistent names for languages• What is persistent about the name for a language?• What is it that the name of a language identifies?• How do languages evolve, grow, change over time?• How can the name be persistent when the meaning changes?
  14. 14. Persistence and Evolution• When a language evolves, it keeps its name• A new language, even if it isn’t very different, would get a different nameWait…• How do languages evolve?• What happens to systems that use those names with evolving meaning?
  15. 15. “language” is over-simplification• Languages (file formats, protocols, protocol elements) are defined in terms of others• Complex structure of interrelationships between components• Each component can evolve independently
  16. 16. Implementations evolve• The language is “as spoken”, not “as defined”• Concrete and abstract languages• References to other specification• Syntax and parsing
  17. 17. specifications describe Languages• References in specifications: how do rules apply when referenced specification is updated• Editions, version numbers
  18. 18. More complexities• Content negotiation – Different “representations” for same “resource”• Polyglot – Same content in multiple languages• “multi-view” – Same content, different views, treated differently
  19. 19. Registry• A way of naming something – Organization to manage registry – Key role of registry is to manage updates • When there are compatibility requirements • When there are requirements• Ontology – A kind of dictionary / registry – Attempt to be proscriptive
  20. 20. Persistent name problems• Forking (HTML)• Versioning (javascript)• References• Compound languages (HTML + RDFa/lite + SVG + MathML)• Layering• Generalization: other “persistent names”: – Charset (addition of Euro) – Other web names (codes, URLs)
  21. 21. Content negotiation – Which languages do you understand? – Which languages can you speak to me?• MIME types don’t help much – Wrong level of granularity – Ambition of reader implementers doesn’t match conservative requirements of senders
  22. 22. Persistent names and versions• “version” parameter requires future proofing• In-band version identifiers might be preferable – Except for “quirks mode” failure cases• Users would like “version of language”• Best a specification can give is “version of specification”• Specifications and languages often don’t evolve in sync
  23. 23. Being able to name language = control over language• Politics / Economics of standards• “Owning” the standard – Keep others from disadvantaging your products or services – Perhaps allows you to advantage your products and services over others
  24. 24. Wealth of Nations• Boundary of nations – Internet communities transcend – Social organizations over the Internet – Governance in a global community
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