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This talk was part of debate held at the Multi-Faith Centre at the University of Derby on 4 June 2008. For more information visit www.scipodem.org.ok

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    1. 1. Creation Research Copyright © Randall Hardy June 2008
    2. 2. Has Science Done Away With God?
    3. 3. Britons unconvinced on evolution <ul><li>22% chose creationism </li></ul><ul><li>17% opted for intelligent design </li></ul><ul><li>48% selected evolution theory </li></ul><ul><li>and the rest did not know. </li></ul>Over 2,000 participants took part in a survey conducted by Ipsos MORI for the BBC's Horizon series. It was published in Jan. 2006. They were asked what best described their view of the origin and development of life: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4648598.stm
    4. 4. Definitions: GOD <ul><li>The Creator </li></ul><ul><li>The Sustainer </li></ul><ul><li>The Provider </li></ul><ul><li>The All Knowing </li></ul><ul><li>The Ruler of History </li></ul><ul><li>The Redeemer </li></ul><ul><li>The Judge </li></ul><ul><li>The Final Authority </li></ul><ul><li>The One who will discard this creation </li></ul><ul><li>A Trinity of Persons </li></ul><ul><li>Righteous </li></ul><ul><li>Merciful </li></ul><ul><li>Unchanging </li></ul><ul><li>Truthful </li></ul><ul><li>Holy </li></ul><ul><li>Just </li></ul><ul><li>Loving </li></ul><ul><li>Willing to forgive if people seek Him </li></ul>The God of the Bible – Jewish and Christian
    5. 5. Definitions: GOD <ul><li>The Creator </li></ul><ul><li>The Sustainer </li></ul><ul><li>The Provider </li></ul><ul><li>The All Knowing </li></ul><ul><li>The Ruler of History </li></ul><ul><li>The Redeemer </li></ul><ul><li>The Judge </li></ul><ul><li>The Final Authority </li></ul><ul><li>The One who will discard this creation </li></ul><ul><li>A Trinity of Persons </li></ul><ul><li>Righteous </li></ul><ul><li>Merciful </li></ul><ul><li>Unchanging </li></ul><ul><li>Truthful </li></ul><ul><li>Holy </li></ul><ul><li>Just </li></ul><ul><li>Loving </li></ul><ul><li>Willing to forgive if people seek Him </li></ul>The God of the Bible – Jewish and Christian A CUT-OUT GOD IN OUR IMAGE
    6. 6. Definitions: Science <ul><li>Empirical Science </li></ul><ul><li>Working Hypotheses </li></ul><ul><li>Testable / Repeatable </li></ul><ul><li>Observation or Experiment </li></ul><ul><li>Developed in the Renaissance (1500-1700 AD) Francis Bacon </li></ul><ul><li>Secular Science </li></ul><ul><li>Empirical science based solely on naturalism </li></ul><ul><li>Naturalism excludes any possibility of anything other than the physical. </li></ul><ul><li>Spiritual explanations are excluded. </li></ul>Latin: scientia = Knowledge
    7. 7. Contemporary Scientism <ul><li>“ Biology is a natural science. Natural science seeks natural explanations for natural phenomena. What there is no place for in the teaching of science is offering supernatural explanations for natural phenomena.” </li></ul><ul><li>Vincent P. Cirillo, Senior Lecturer, School of Natural Science and Mathematics, UT-Dallas </li></ul><ul><li>Dallas Morning News, Friday Letters 4 Jan. 2008 </li></ul>
    8. 8. Contemporary Scientism <ul><li>“ Scientists refrain from considering Gods actions in their work. Instead they use observation, experimentation, logical arguments, heuristics, and healthy skepticism to produce scientific knowledge.” </li></ul><ul><li>“ Scientific theories are therefore explanations about aspects of nature without reference to God .” </li></ul><ul><li>National Science Teachers Association (USA) </li></ul><ul><li>The Science Teacher, Nov 2003, p34 </li></ul>
    9. 9. Contemporary Scientism <ul><li>“ Methodological naturalism , the view that natural phenomena can be explained without reference to supernatural beings or events, is the foundation of the natural sciences. </li></ul><ul><li>Prof. Mark R. Ackermann, Department of Veterinary Psychology, Iowa State University and 119 of his colleagues. </li></ul><ul><li>IowaStateDaily.com August 23, 2005 </li></ul>
    10. 10. Contemporary Scientism <ul><li>“ Expert testimony reveals that since the scientific revolution of the 16th and 17th centuries, science has been limited to the search for natural causes to explain natural phenomena. </li></ul><ul><li>“ While supernatural explanations may be important and have merit, they are not part of science. </li></ul><ul><li>“ This self-imposed convention of science , which limits inquiry to testable, natural explanations about the natural world, is referred to by philosophers as ‘methodological naturalism’ and is sometimes known as the scientific method.” </li></ul><ul><li>Judge John E. Jones III </li></ul><ul><li>US District Court Pennsylvania – Dover ID Trial Court Ruling 20 Dec 2005. P. 64/65 </li></ul>
    11. 11. History rewritten? Isaac Newton 1642 to 1727 Michael Faraday 1791 to 1867 Louis Pasteur 1822 to 1895 James Clerk Maxwell 1831 to 1879 William Herschel 1738-1822, Humphrey Davy 1778-1829, William Buckland 1784-1856, Richard Owen 1804-1892
    12. 12. “ Self-imposed convention of science” Where did it come from? <ul><li>“ I always feel as if my books came half out of Lyell's brain, and that I never acknowledge this sufficiently; nor do I know how I can without saying so in so many words-for I have always thought that the great merit of the Principles was that it altered the whole tone of one's mind , and therefore that, when seeing a thing never seen by Lyell, one yet saw it partially through his eyes.” </li></ul>Charles Darwin in a letter to L. Horner, August 29th 1844. Charles Darwin 1809 to 1882 Charles Lyell 1797 to 1875
    13. 13. <ul><li>“ I am sure you may get into QR (Quarterly Review) what will free the science from Moses , for if treated seriously the (church) party are ready for it. </li></ul><ul><li>“ Perhaps I should have been tenderer about the Koran. Don’t meddle much with that if at all. If we don’t irritate, which I fear that we may (through mere history), we shall carry all with us. If you don’t triumph over them, but compliment the liberality and candour of the present age, the bishops and the enlightened saints will join us in despising both the ancient and modern physico-theologians. It is just the time to strike… </li></ul><ul><li>Charles Lyell June 14 1830 letter to George Poulett Scrope parliamentarian and fellow uniformitarian geologist. </li></ul><ul><li>Katherine Lyell ‘Life, Letters and Journals of Sir Charles Lyell’, Bart., Vol I: p. 268-271 </li></ul>“ Self-imposed convention of science” Where did it come from?
    14. 14. “ Self-imposed convention of science” Where did it come from? <ul><li>“ I conceived the idea five or six years ago [1824/5] that if ever the Mosaic geology could be set down without giving offence, it would be in an historical sketch , and you must extract mine, in order to say as little as possible yourself.” </li></ul><ul><li>Charles Lyell June 14 1830 letter to George Poulett Scrope parliamentarian and fellow uniformitarian geologist. </li></ul><ul><li>Katherine Lyell ‘Life, Letters and Journals of Sir Charles Lyell’, Bart., Vol I: p. 268-271 </li></ul>
    15. 15. “ Self-imposed convention of science” Where did it come from? <ul><li>“ During these two years [October 1836 to January 1839?] I was led to think much about religion… </li></ul><ul><li>“ But I had gradually come, by this time, to see that the Old Testament from its manifestly false history of the world , with the Tower of Babel, the rainbow as a sign, etc., etc., and from its attributing to God the feelings of a revengeful tyrant, was no more to be trusted than the sacred books of the Hindoos, or the beliefs of any barbarian.” </li></ul><ul><li>The autobiography of Charles Darwin , 1809-1882: with original omissions restored. New York, W.W. Norton, 1969. p. 85. </li></ul>
    16. 16. “ Self-imposed convention of science” Where did it come from? <ul><li>“ Charles Lyell was a lawyer by profession, and his book is one of the most brilliant briefs published by an advocate… </li></ul><ul><li>“ Lyell relied upon true bits of cunning to establish his uniformitarian views as the only true geology. First, he set up a straw man to demolish… </li></ul><ul><li>Prof. Stephen J. Gould, Natural History February 1975, p. 16. </li></ul>
    17. 17. “ Self-imposed convention of science” Where did it come from? <ul><li>“ In fact, the catastrophists were much more empirically minded than Lyell . The geologic record does seem to require catastrophes: rocks are fractured and contorted; whole faunas are wiped out. To circumvent this literal appearance, Lyell imposed his imagination upon the evidence . The geologic record, he argued, is extremely imperfect and we must interpolate into it what we can reasonably infer but cannot see. The catastrophists were the hardnosed empiricists of their day , not the blinded theological apologists.” </li></ul><ul><li>Prof. Stephen J. Gould, Natural History February 1975, p. 16. </li></ul>
    18. 18. Naturalism – where is the evidence?
    19. 19. Naturalism – where is the evidence? <ul><li>http://www.historyoftheuniverse.com/origlife.html - Biological Environment > Origin of Life </li></ul><ul><li>Some people think that life was carried to Earth from another planet. But that just puts back the problem of how life began to that other planet. It is simplest to assume that life began on Earth. Indeed, the Earth has the right conditions for life to exist. It is at just the right distance from the Sun for water to be a liquid, and its orbit is almost circular. This is probably unusual among planets round other stars, so it seems sensible to assume Earth was the place where life began. </li></ul>
    20. 20. Naturalism – where is the evidence? <ul><li>http://www.historyoftheuniverse.com/origlife.html - Biological Environment > Origin of Life </li></ul><ul><li>Nucleic acids and proteins are built mainly from hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and carbon atoms, which are among the commonest atoms in the Universe. They were certainly present in the atmosphere released by the volcanoes of the young Earth. </li></ul><ul><li>This atmosphere probably contained molecules such as methane, ammonia, carbon dioxide and water, but not oxygen molecules. Experiments show that energy such as lightning can create amino acids and bases out of these simpler molecules. They were washed down to Earth in the rain. There they were joined together to make nucleic acids and proteins, perhaps by being heated on the slopes of volcanoes, or on the ocean floor where hot rock rises from the Earth's mantle. </li></ul>
    21. 21. Naturalism – where is the evidence? <ul><li>http://www.historyoftheuniverse.com/origlife.html - Biological Environment > Origin of Life </li></ul><ul><li>Life as we know it is a chemical system which needs both proteins and nucleic acids working closely together. But perhaps , before life began, there was some simpler system which just used one type of molecule. One idea is that nucleic acids stuck to clay. A chemical system might have begun which could grow and reproduce without the use of proteins. This type of theory is popular because nucleic acid sometimes acts like an enzyme in life today. </li></ul><ul><li>Perhaps later life began to use proteins as the workers, and these gradually took over all the jobs of life, leaving the nucleic acids as mainly the information carriers. Clay stopped being used, and modern life began . </li></ul><ul><li>We do not know whether this theory is correct . It raises many questions. How did those first nucleic acids form ? How did they begin to use proteins ? Was there a stage of life before nucleic acids, and what chemicals did it use ? Is life common on other planets in the Universe, or did it only begin on Earth ? </li></ul>
    22. 22. Naturalism – where is the evidence?
    23. 23. Naturalism – where is the evidence?
    24. 24. Naturalism – where is the evidence? <ul><li>Answer: </li></ul><ul><li>IN THE MINDS OF MEN </li></ul>Free CD-ROM for anyone here tonight who thinks evolution is fact and creation is just faith (whilst stocks last). The rest can buy one for £5.00
    25. 25. Christianity – Faith based on facts. <ul><li>“ If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain.” New Testament – 1 Corinthians 15v14 </li></ul><ul><li>Lyell, a lawyer, and Darwin who had studied Theology at Cambridge University, both recognised this. </li></ul><ul><li>Today’s atheists know this, despite their arguments to the contrary, or else they would not attack Christianity by challenging its historical accuracy. </li></ul>
    26. 26. Christianity – Faith based on facts. <ul><li>It is claimed that Biblical creation is untestable. </li></ul><ul><li>However the Bible makes at least two claims about the creation which can be tested through observations. </li></ul><ul><li>Animal and plants reproduce after their kind (Gen. 1 × 10). </li></ul><ul><li>Since creation the Creator’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, can be clearly seen and understood through what has been made (Rom. 1). </li></ul>
    27. 27. Christianity – Faith based on facts. Which agrees with the facts? Creation After their kind. Variation within a kind. Evolution Not after their kind. Variation between kinds.
    28. 28. Christianity – Faith based on facts. <ul><li>Dec. 03 CRUSTACEANS: The fossil indicates that ostracods “ have had essentially the same anatomy for a record breaking 425 million years.” </li></ul><ul><li>Mar. 06 LAONASTES AENIGMAMUS (RODENT): The sole survivor of a group that otherwise died out 11 million years ago, according to fossil data… But scientists now believe it is a “living fossil” . </li></ul><ul><li>Jun. 06 GANSUS YUMENENSIS (BIRD): 110 million year old specimens of the grebe-like birds… “ If you took most of the bones in its body, including famous pieces like the breastbone and the wishbone, and put them next to those of a modern bird, you'd have a lot of difficulty telling them apart .” </li></ul>Stasis in the fossil record
    29. 29. Christianity – Faith based on facts. <ul><li>Oct. 06 LAMPREYS (FISH): Scientists discovered a 360 million year old lamprey,.. demonstrating that modern lampreys are remarkable living fossils . </li></ul><ul><li>Jan. 07 LEAF INSECT: … little has changed with leaf insects during the last 47 million years . Though the fossil has a few differences, it bears a considerable resemblance to extant leaf insects in the size and shape of its segments. </li></ul><ul><li>Mar. 08 MODERN LIFE IN ANCIENT MATS: The observation that specific structures were formed in the same places, relative to the tidal range, where they are found today adds confidence to this interpretation. This particularly well-preserved and diverse set of mat-related structures thus adds to a growing record of sedimentary microbial communities extending from 3.4 billion years ago to the present. Remarkably, many of the physical properties of mats and the environments in which they grew seem not to have changed over most of that time. </li></ul>Stasis in the fossil record
    30. 30. Christianity – Faith based on facts. <ul><li>The 380 million-year-old specimen has been preserved with an embryo still attached by its umbilical cord. The find, reported in Nature, pushes back the emergence of this reproductive strategy by some 200 million years. Until now, scientists thought creatures from these times were only able to develop their young inside eggs. </li></ul>Surprise in the fossil record 28 May 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7424281.stm http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080528/full/453575a.html http://museumvictoria.com.au/About/MV-News/2008/Mother-fish/
    31. 31. Christianity – Faith based on facts. <ul><li>“ While we look down with awe into these unsearchable depths and treasure up with care what with our little line and plummet we can reach, we ought to admire the wisdom of Him who has so arranged these mysteries that we can first find that which we can understand at first and the rest in order so that it is possible for us to have an ever increasing stock of known truth concerning things whose nature is absolutely incomprehensible.” </li></ul><ul><li>James Clerk Maxwell , </li></ul><ul><li>Inaugural Lecture, Aberdeen, 3 November 1856, Scientific Letters and Papers, 1:427. </li></ul>
    32. 32. His eternal power and divine nature <ul><li>“ ...The belief in design is a necessary consequence of the Laws of Thought acting on the phenomena of perception. </li></ul><ul><li>“ But every well-ascertained law points to some central cause, and at once constitutes that centre a being in the general sense of the word . Whether that being be personal is a question which may be determined by induction. The less difficult question whether the being be intelligent is more practicable, and should be kept in view in the investigation of organised beings. </li></ul><ul><li>James Clerk Maxwell , </li></ul><ul><li>Essay, “What is the Nature of Evidence of Design?” 1853. </li></ul>
    33. 33. His eternal power and divine nature <ul><li>… They continue this day as they were created—perfect in number and measure and weight; and from the ineffaceable characters impressed on them we may learn that those aspirations after accuracy in measurement, and justice in action, which we reckon among our noblest attributes as men, are ours because they are essential constituents of the image of Him who in the beginning created, not only the heaven and the earth, but the materials of which heaven and earth consist . </li></ul><ul><li>James Clerk Maxwell “Discourse on Molecules” The British Association for the Advancement of Science, Bradford, September 1873 </li></ul>Three part understanding of electromagnetism: the magnetic field , the electric field , and the vector interaction
    34. 34. His eternal power and divine nature <ul><li>3 states of matter Solid, liquid & gas </li></ul><ul><li>3 dimensions of space Width, height & depth </li></ul><ul><li>3 aspects of time Past, present & future </li></ul><ul><li>3 sided shape – triangle Strongest structural form </li></ul><ul><li>3 ‘letters’ in a DNA ‘word’ CTT TTA GGG etc. </li></ul><ul><li>3 types of subatomic Protons, neutrons & particles electrons </li></ul><ul><li>3 quarks in every proton 6 types: 3 have +⅔ charge and neutron & 3 have -⅓ charge </li></ul><ul><li>3 known flavors of lepton Electron, muon, & tau </li></ul><ul><li>3 Primary colours Light – red, green & blue </li></ul>
    35. 35. His eternal power and divine nature This reflects the understanding that the fullness of the Creator God is expressed in three persons not in one nor in many.
    36. 36. If Christ has not been raised… your faith also is vain <ul><li>Neither CSI nor Richard Dawkins can investigate this one; it took place too long ago. </li></ul><ul><li>Empirical science is limited to repeatable physical events. </li></ul><ul><li>Such science cannot prove (or disprove) friendship, hate, love, sorrow and the like. </li></ul>Grave robbery or resurrected Saviour?
    37. 37. If Christ has not been raised… your faith also is vain <ul><li>The most certain proof of Christianity is that the resurrected Saviour has promised to make Himself known to those who are prepared to seek Him wholeheartedly. </li></ul><ul><li>Since Lyell, science has become an excuse for not doing so! </li></ul>Grave robbery or resurrected Saviour?