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This talk was part of debate held at the Multi-Faith Centre at the University of Derby on 4 June 2008. For more information visit www.scipodem.org.ok

This talk was part of debate held at the Multi-Faith Centre at the University of Derby on 4 June 2008. For more information visit www.scipodem.org.ok

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    • Phil Brown
      • East Midlands Regional Officer, British Association for the Advancement of Science
    • Randall Hardy
      • Creation Research UK
      • www.amen.org.uk/cr
      • John Mackay
    • Has Science Done Away with God?
          • We do not accept that the Earth is billions of years old. The geological evidence, properly understood, shows the Earth has only been here a few thousand years.
          • That being the case, the "Theory of Evolution", which claims that one type of plant or animal can turn into another, obviously becomes totally implausible without the unimaginably long time scales!
            • Randall Hardy
    • Has Science Done Away with God?
      • What do we mean by ‘God’?
      • Answers from the audience, please
    • What is God?
      • Personal
      • Creator
      • Controller
    • This talk will cover
      • 1 Personal God
      • 2 How science works
      • 3 Creator God
      • 4 Controller God
      • 5 Age of the Earth
      • 6 Evolution
      • 7 Answer to question
    • 1 Personal God
      • Science cannot explain
        • consciousness
        • decision-making
        • free-will
        • love
      • Personal God theory as valid as any other
    • 2 How Science Works
      • Observation
      • Theory
      • Prediction
      • Measurement
      • Every theory is open to examination
    • 3 Creator God
      • Big Bang Theory
      • High energy density destroyed evidence. No widely accepted theory of cause of creation.
      • Make your own mind up about creation
    • 4 Controller God
      • Perhaps science reveals the hand of God in controlling the universe?
      • Science reveals more beauty of creation
      • Science enables us to worship creation more deeply
    • 5 Age of the Earth
      • Bible or Science?
      • Biblical Age
      • Scientific History of the Universe
    • Biblical Age of the Universe
      • From a literal reading of the Bible, Bishop Ussher (1581 - 1656) deduced that the first day of Creation began at nightfall preceding Sunday October 23, 4004 BC
    • Could this be true?
          • If
            • Earth only few thousand years old
          • Then some or all the following are wrong
            • Evolution
            • Astronomy
            • Geology
            • Physics
            • Relativity
            • Planetary Science
            • etc etc
    • Evidence for age of Earth
      • Radiometric Dating
      • Continental Drift
      • Sedimentary Structures
      • Fossil Evidence
    • Radiometric Dating
    • Decay Graph
    • Radiometric dating is accurate
      • Two clocks. Built-in crosscheck.
        • U235 -> Lead 207 half-life of about 700 million years
        • U238 -> Lead 206 half-life of about 4.5 billion years
    • Age of Earth
      • The best estimate of the age of the Earth is 4.54 billion years
      • Error is about 3 million years
      • All scientific measurements have errors
    • Supernova created isotopes 2 Red Giant Medium Atoms 3 Supernova Large Atoms 1 Main Sequence Small Atoms
    • Life Genes Proteins Ribosome
    • 6 Evolution
      • A Mechanism
      • b Comparative Anatomy
      • c Fossil record
      • d Molecular Biology
      • e Completely Consistent
      • f Domesticated Breeding
    • 6a Mechanism of Evolution
      • Genetic Variation
      • Natural Selection
      • Based on accident
    • 6b Comparative Anatomy
      • Many animals have nonfunctional digits.
      • They are remnants of ancestors with a larger number of functional digits.
      • Why would a creator God fabricate such vestiges?
    • 6c Fossil record
      • Fossil record shows horse feet have evolved.
      • Transitional forms are predicted by evolution.
      • Why would creator God make intermediate fossils?
    • 6d Molecular Biology
      • Hemoglobin amino acid sequence used to construct family trees for worms, molluscs, fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds & mammals
    • 6e Complete Agreement
      • Family trees from hemoglobin, fossil record and comparative anatomy all agree completely.
      • Why? Pure co-incidence?
    • 6f Domesticated Breeding
      • Breeding of dogs, cattle, corn and many other domestic plants and animals shows that selective breeding works
    • 7 Has science done away with God?
      • No, because:
        • Personal God outside known science
        • Science has nothing definite to say about Creator - could be God
        • Perhaps science reveals the hand of God in controlling the universe, eg evolution
    • Big Questions Reminder
      • 25 June 2008
      • How can a scientist have faith?
      • Rev'd Dr David de Pomerai
      • Society of Ordained Scientists