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Ben Ryan: Going for Gold? The RCUK Policy on Access to Research Outputs

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  • StevanHarnad UQàM & U Southampton at UQàM & U Southampton Two questions for Ben Ryan, followed by live comments on the entire symposium (in reverse order.) -- S Harnad First Question for Ben Ryan: 'How will RCUK monitor and ensure compliance with Green mandate to deposit?' Second Question for Ben Ryan: 'Why double-pay for hybrid Gold OA?' Live comments on the papers (in reverse order): Just deposit refereed postprint immediately upon acceptance & rely on embargo http://j.mp/RPNNYA if you comply w. publisher embargo. Great that Wellcome now monitoring compliance, but needs focus on Green compliance, not just Gold (publisher monitoring) (#RCUK too) Publishing costs are paid by subscriptions until/unless subscriptions end (because Green version available) Wellcome double-pays... Wellcome has deep pockets, good hearts, but short vision Why doesn't G. just submit to highest peerreview-standard journal, forget about pay-to-publish, & self-archive (Green)? missing point Sounds like this speaker thinks OA = Gold OA... POGO: 'We've seen the enemy and he is us…' Why appease them? For their work they may be right. OA is primarily for refereed postprints, not unrefereed preprints -welcome ad lib Self-promotion is a head-start effect. Once #OA is global, it will be merit rather than self-promotion that prevails Downloads, Citations, and Positional Effects in the arXiv - Gaming the system... http://j.mp/SgGJF7 Green OA mandates are for current/future articles; old stuff less urgent: Melissa's tweet self-adverts good idea (but may not scale!) Twit, blgs, fbks are fine, but #OA is about refereed research. Social media are supplement, not substitute Bradley (on metaphysics) adapted: 'show me someone allegedly anti-metrics & I'll show you a metricist with rival metrics' Old #RCUK policy lacked any compliance verification system: that's what new policy needs, not spending scarce research funds on Gold Stephen Curry misunderstands: *all* papers can be deposited in IR, whether subscription or Gold. Open Access Week 2012: Opening Research and Data hosted by Birkbeck college Library on Livestream http://j.mp/TsjNr2 a good year? UK was leading from 2005, but has now taken a big step backward #finchreport #rcuk #Finchreport Green:' [so] repositories should [instead] complement publishing: data-grey-literature-preservation [no mention Green] #Finchreport on Green: ' [Green OA] policies of neither funders nor universities have yet had major effect … [so] #Finchreport wants to shut down the stronger Green engine but let's hope #RCUK fixes its policy so it does not happen Bjork/Laakso figures and Gargouri/Harnad figures are based on different samples and methods, so not directly comparable. 6 months ago
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