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#ChSocM Tweetchat                                           10/04/11Denise205: Welcome to our weekly church and social med...
We will assume tweets during this chat are yours & do not represent your church or organizationT1 How do you include blogs...
klamach: @chsocm My blog, on the other hand, is a record of my journey, in hopes of inspiringothers who were out of the fa...
mgoins: @MeredithGould And often times, you can split one post into many... Red ink is awonderful thing!mnplatypus: We use...
emdeerx: @MeredithGould I agree. I refuse to read longer posts.rev_david: @mgoins Shhh .... we dont want to start the "met...
paulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 A set of blogs with the same topic. Or bloggers who blog on thesame topic guest blogging on on...
rev_david: @MeredithGould No, thats true. And it why I am always reticent to publish mine ...tijuanabecky: I think bloggin...
SmilingKIJ: If blogging gets the juices flowing for me as a writer, Ill use part of a post in a sermon!MeredithGould: RT @...
mgoins: Restating: @MeredithGould Amen! For me, reading a SERMON losses the inflection. I tendto click away. But hearing i...
SmilingKIJ: RT @tijuanabecky: A3 Church could better minister because blogging those who arevisual or book learners vs jus...
youravgpastor: @MeredithGould The big question is--is anally-retentive hyphenated in sermonpublication???rev_david: Good q...
mnplatypus: @klamach exactly what we just didSr_Lisa: @jazzpastord @paulsteinbrueck also, on a blog vs FB, the distraction...
djchuang247: @smshepherds @skenow agree that wiki have tons of potential; hurdle to getpeople motivated to keep it updated...
rev_david: @Denise205 @smshepherds I think mine is pretty stellar. And Im only a celebrity inmy own mind. :-)Sr_Lisa: Brav...
Denise205: @SophiaSPU I think both would have their place...whats everyone else say? Who isyour audience for a ministry bl...
youravgpastor: @SophiaSPU My blog has hit both inside/outside. Some topics hit a nerve. Ihavent focused too much on target...
ckbliss: is it possible/effective to have multiple target audiences on a blog? Or would a solid target(internal v external...
chaddbrooks: @ckbliss I do. But it is only 2 or 3. Name your posts and pay attention to categories.ckbliss: I find that th...
RevWeb: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, build community,be a person for others, stay tru...
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  1. 1. #ChSocM Tweetchat 10/04/11Denise205: Welcome to our weekly church and social media chat, especially those joining in forthe first time.If this is your first tweetchat ever, please don’t get discouraged by the pace! Ask if you need help.We’re a friendly group.We’ll get started in a minute with self-introductions, but as ever, we start with prayer.djchuang: looking to join my 1st tweetchat, looking to add a video portion to run simultaneouswith it..paulsteinbrueck: @skenow @MeredithGould @rev_david Good to see you all again tonight.Denise205: Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & yourmercy at all times.We give thanks for this & every opportunity to share experience & inquiry anchored in faith.Stevefogg: Im a church comms guy. Just swopped blog to wordpress & changed domain towww.stevefogg.com but blogging less than I used toDenise205: We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire tonight’s conversation & guide us as we moveforward in love & service. Amen.MeredithGould: @jazzpastord Absolutely! All are welcome...always #fullcommunioninactionDenise205: @djchuang Welcome!skenow: @revweb @jazzpastord this might help t.co/hHY4Liwzrampracer: @jazzpastord welcome toMeredithGould: <--sociologist, author of Word Made Fresh (abt church comm), keen on usingsocial media to build community, gadfly tendenciessm4faith: Best wishes to all attending chat - timetable clash here, but will try to lurk a bit.emdeerx: Erin Devotional writer for www.God-The-Healer.comskenow: @mgoins glad to see you tonight! Ive been quite tardy latelyDenise205: Next up: self-introductions. In addition to your church affiliation, please let everyoneknow how you currently use social mediaDenise205: Moderating this chat: Denise Gorss. I work on Web content for a Catholic publisher inChicago. 1
  2. 2. We will assume tweets during this chat are yours & do not represent your church or organizationT1 How do you include blogs in your social media mix?mgoins: T1: First example was for my church... My personal blog is unlisted, hidden, and used asmy journal.rev_david: T1 My use of blogs has changed a lot over the last few years. Used to be my primarysocial media engagementpaulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 T1: Blogs are great for in-depth conversation, teaching, inspiration.Content is king!MeredithGould: @Stevefogg I moved from Blogger to WordPress then back to Blogger for@Virtual_Abbey. WP gave me a headache.smshepherds: This applies anywhere! :) RT @MeredithGould any blogging done for a [church] bya non-writer needs to be edited by a real editorStevefogg: @MeredithGould Im using @standardtheme which does pretty much what I need. Imoved from typepad that was more restrictiveDenise205: T2 What techniques do you use for building community around your blog?T2b Or if you don’t have a blog, how does a good blog make you feel a part of thecommunity?RevWeb: T2b Drawn into cohort and fed by blog from denominational staffer. Converting me.t.co/PeTgwwJrmgoins: T2b Blogs allows you to connect w/ and share a more in-depth convo. Many of the besttweets I get are the titles of blog posts.rev_david: Also, auto-publishing to #FB can hurt the edgerank of your posts, which has becomeeven more important with the changesStevefogg: I think linking to your blog is fine IF u have are a thought leader in yr niche. ppl knowwhen u link there is valueMeredithGould: T1 Strong opinion (shocking, I know): any blogging done for a diocese by a non-writer needs to be edited by a real editorerinwarde: @SmilingKIJ I love this lady!!rev_david: Cant be helped, some of us are just dense! / MT @MeredithGould: I despair when I seechurch blog posts that are long & dense.MeredithGould: @rev_david Its why GOD created editors!! 2
  3. 3. klamach: @chsocm My blog, on the other hand, is a record of my journey, in hopes of inspiringothers who were out of the faith for yearserinwarde: T2 my blog is linked to Fb& Twitter so that even though I use it differently, thosecommunities can still engage it-Gets reg readersskenow: @Stevefogg Given the tendency of people to over-stuff their blog, that may be a smartmoveerinwarde: @mySSW theology prof @ADemetriusBaker wonders if it would be helpful to have atheology blog for class.. New possible way to use it?paulsteinbrueck: @Stevefogg I <3 Wordpress!MeredithGould: T? I prefer posts that max out at 500 words to help readers read.smshepherds: @Denise205 Ahhh... great. #chompingatthebitchaddbrooks: @meredithgould or at least the writer start studying the craft of editing and have areview panelpaulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 Blog & Twitter r like peanut butter & chocolate. Blog needsdistribution, Twitter needs content.paulsteinbrueck: Blogs are also great for SEO & drawing new people to your website. We get 30%-40% of our visitors from Google.SmilingKIJ: ELCA candidate for ordination - waiting for first call in NTNL synod here.chaddbrooks: @denise205 I have found that "odd" social media sites help alot (like instagram +flickr). They build a really unique community.mgoins: @SmilingKIJ Now that makes this librarian happy!skenow: I tend to write more how-to and technical articles, contribute to a few blogs, occasionallyMeredithGould: @skenow I post personal opinion essays but also service pieces, QOTD, pictures,videos. Not just narrative.rev_david: But over-linking! If all your tweets are links to your blog, Im probably going to stoppaying attention!SmilingKIJ: Ive also had some personal blogs which dealt w/ faith but ran out of steam on those. Ithink in a cong, Ill blog on the lectionaryLisaHendey: @Denise205 to build community we welcome multiple bloggers atwww.CatholicMom.com - currently have over 130 active writerspaulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 Group blogging through a book is also a great way to buildcommunity among a group. I love doing that! 3
  4. 4. mgoins: @MeredithGould And often times, you can split one post into many... Red ink is awonderful thing!mnplatypus: We use wordpress for our CMS but not really as a blogskenow: @mnplatypus Glad to have you join at any time!MeredithGould: @rev_david Actually, the color I use is based on the liturgical season!Denise205: @Sr_Lisa Welcome! Youll be able to catch a transcript later for what you missed.Sr_Lisa: Just tuning in now...lots of good recommendations streamingskenow: RT @MeredithGould: T? I prefer posts that max out at 500 words to help readers read.MeredithGould: @mnplatypus Sok, we dont take attendance and there’s no detention forlateness!LisaHendey: @chaddbrooks @meredithgould agree w editing as long as it doesnt bog down theprocess. Blogging must be current, swift responsiveemdeerx: @rev_david I have a separate twitter account for my website and a FB page.Stevefogg: Blogging connected me with ppl I would never connect with... ppl like youerinwarde: “@rev_david: But over-linking! If all your tweets are links to your blog Im probablygoing to stop paying attention! ”yes! Mix it upMeredithGould: @chaddbrooks I tell writers that the more "red ink" they see, the better theirwriting. I have something to work withDenise205: @paulsteinbrueck Could you say more about that? Group within same blog, or a set ofblogs with same topic in timeframe?rev_david: Im considering taking up a special collection to provide @meredithgould with morered ink!Sr_Lisa: @LisaHendey @chaddbrooks @meredithgould otherwise, paralysis by analysis? re. over-editingmgoins: Whew! Active crowd tonight. Looking forward to reviewing archives tomorrow.chaddbrooks: @meredithgould I value my editors, and when I know they appreciate my content ithelps when I get red penned real bad.skenow: @rev_david Ive seen those reports about auto-publishing, but Im skeptical aboutgeneralizations like thoseMeredithGould: @klamach LOVE that you start w/scripture...helps underscore that its acommunication about church & faith 4
  5. 5. emdeerx: @MeredithGould I agree. I refuse to read longer posts.rev_david: @mgoins Shhh .... we dont want to start the "metrics" conversation #hottopic#lotsofopinionsmgoins: @rev_david Look at you talking metrics! I agree with you though. You must find a balancein sharing across all SM.smshepherds: @emdeerx @rev_david If youre going to set up a syndicated feed to promote yourblog, a separate Twitter account is a great idea.jazzpastord: is there no place for longer blogposts?klamach: @chsocm I usually start my posts with Scripture, and sometimes multiple passages,thoughts on this approach?mgoins: MT @paulsteinbrueck @Denise205 Group blogging through a book is also a great way tobuild community among a group.MeredithGould: RT @paulsteinbrueck: Blogs are also great for SEO & drawing new people to yourwebsite. We get 30%-40% of our visitors from Google.youravgpastor: Ive followed the shorter blog post philosophy, and its helped me ship the post.klamach: @Denise205 @jazzpastord I will read any post that engages me and teaches me!paulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 Heres an ex when a group of us blogged through @KemMeyersLess Clutter, Less Noise - t.co/1ghEDFUFskenow: @jazzpastord I believe you can have longer posts, just not as the normerinwarde: I think blogs could be a place for ministers to elaborate on concerns brought up duringChristian Ed, reactions to sermon, etc..rev_david: Yes! MT @erinwarde: Blogs could be a place for ministers to elaborate on concernsbrought upStevefogg: I blog to bring value to ppl in my niche. I only tweet links to articles that are supervaluabledjchuang247: @Denise205 place for longer blog posts = eBook :)Denise205: RT @jazzpastord: is there no place for longer blogposts?MeredithGould: @jazzpastord I ask writers to turn a long post into a series. Blogging is such avisual medium that scrolling is counterproductivemgoins: @MeredithGould Nice! Personally, I edit in purple (thanks to a former editor of mine).Still visible, not as harsh. 5
  6. 6. paulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 A set of blogs with the same topic. Or bloggers who blog on thesame topic guest blogging on one blogsm4faith: Long blogposts have their place for a purpose, but aiming for 500-800 words isrecommended for most posts by most pundits.rev_david: Dont tell @meredithgould. I post longer ones - sermons are 1200-1500 // RT@jazzpastord: is there no place for longer blogposts?Sr_Lisa: @paulsteinbrueck @Denise205 I havent tried group blogging through a book. Id like totry thatsmshepherds: @mnplatypus As your churchs website CMS? Share a link?mgoins: @Denise205 @paulsteinbrueck Im hoping its blogging about a book youre readingtogether? Instead of meeting IRL discuss via blog?Stevefogg: @Stuart_Dyckhoff church social media... i think ;-)chaddbrooks: @jazzpastord throw them together into an eBookSr_Lisa: @MeredithGould So, how many words would make an ideal post length? @jazzpastordyouravgpastor: Ive taken the Seth Godin posture to blogging. Ship it. I tend to over think it...so Imlearning to live with imperfect writing.ChrisWardYoung: Been following the stream, time to jump in... The odd mistake in a blog showsyour readers that youre human IMOtijuanabecky: Sounds like fun RT @mgoins: @Denise205 @paulsteinbrueck Im hoping itsblogging about a book youre reading together? ....Sr_Lisa: @chaddbrooks Thats so true! @meredithgould @LisaHendey know our tendencies...smshepherds: @jazzpastord Blogs are great for long form content, especially when compared toour growing predilection for micromedia.klamach: “@MeredithGould: @rev_david Actually, the color I use is based on the liturgical season!”<---can I put you on retainer! ;-)MeredithGould: @rev_david Oral communications do not automagically make for great reading.Stevefogg: I try to keep my posts below 500 words if I can @MeredithGould short, sharp &sweeeetMeredithGould: @rev_david Zoom in on one of my pet peeves: blog posts are NOTsermons....different communications.smshepherds: RT @youravgpastor: Blogging is my favorite place for leadership development--formyself and anyone in my congregation willing to read. 6
  7. 7. rev_david: @MeredithGould No, thats true. And it why I am always reticent to publish mine ...tijuanabecky: I think blogging about the sermon or side points could be helpful to the churchduring the week. Helps you learn more and retain it.erinwarde: honestly a good blog could make me visit a church thatd been "on the fence" as towhether Id visit-It could make outsiders come inmgoins: @Stevefogg Super sweet! And it keeps your readers happy!rev_david: @MeredithGould But its important for me to read them /share them /talk about themwith other preachers. Its part of why I use SocMskenow: @MeredithGould Ah, but can sermons be blog posts?mnplatypus: @smshepherds t.co/oZSuU5jFChrisWardYoung: Blog post could be used to follow on from the topic of a sermon, rather than re-broadcasting itDenise205: T2b How does a good blog make you feel a part of the community?sm4faith: Ahh but you probably have good bandwidth, dial-up is still the norm in our ruralcommunities.mgoins: @MeredithGould Amen! For me, reading a blog losses the inflection. I tend to click away.But hearing it, I feel it.ChrisWardYoung: @Stevefogg @youravgpastor - agreed, short is good for a blog post (generallyspeaking)MeredithGould: @skenow Not necessarily. Sermons generally need to be edited before showingup on screen or in print.sm4faith: @skenow Yes, some sermons translate well to blogs, depends on both style andaudience.klamach: @MeredithGould @rev_david but can sermons turn into blog posts? or vice versa?rev_david: Ill go with that! RT @MeredithGould: @sm4faith I’d rather listen to an embedded mp3of a sermon than read it as delivered.MeredithGould: @sm4faith Id rather listen to an embedded mp3 of a sermon than read it asdelivered.jazzpastord: @meredithgould editing sermons for me is key - so much of what i do is visuallyoriented/sight gag humor required...youravgpastor: Blogging is my favorite place for leadership development--for myself and anyonein my congregation willing to read. 7
  8. 8. SmilingKIJ: If blogging gets the juices flowing for me as a writer, Ill use part of a post in a sermon!MeredithGould: RT @youravgpastor: Ive followed the shorter blog post philosophy, and itshelped me ship the post.RevWeb: T2b-I find inspirational and usable material, well archived, keeps me engaged andcoming back to get connected.Sr_Lisa: Me too! RT @klamach: @Denise205 @jazzpastord I will read any post that engages meand teaches me!youravgpastor: Ive been doing sermon samples on my blog. A bit like my homiletics class exerciseof "sermon in a paragraph."MeredithGould: @Sr_Lisa I like them to run 400-500 words...maybe 550.paulsteinbrueck: RT @youravgpastor: Blogging is my favorite place for leadership development--for myself & anyone in my congregation willing to read.ChrisWardYoung: @Denise205 - @joelabell and the Hillsong team have created a real communitythrough their Collected blogerinwarde: RT @skenow: RT @paulsteinbrueck: Blogging is a good way to get conversationstarted in your church a couple days before a sermon too.klamach: RT @MeredithGould: Im fine with posting sermons on blogs -- just not without editingfor the medium. Blogging is a particular form of media.sm4faith: @MeredithGould Only to the frequent readers of blogs. Many people here only read oneblog - the one with their parish sermons.MeredithGould: Im fine with posting sermons on blogs -- just not without editing for the medium.Blogging is a particular form of media.mgoins: @RevWeb And its very easy to reference past posts. Not so easy on web sites, twitter, et.al.chaddbrooks: @tijuanabecky I blog about rabbit trails or potentially deeper points that MIGHTinterest people.MeredithGould: @sm4faith I worked for a priest who freaked if I changed one word or moved Weare to "were" to be more readable. #PITASr_Lisa: Definitely! RT @ChrisWardYoung: Blog post could be used to follow on from the topic of asermon, rather than re-broadcasting itStevefogg: Blogging great way to use an informal tone of voice, rather than offical churchmegaphone. can be so much more relational 8
  9. 9. mgoins: Restating: @MeredithGould Amen! For me, reading a SERMON losses the inflection. I tendto click away. But hearing it, I feel it.MeredithGould: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @SmilingKIJ Blogging is a good way to get conversationstarted a couple days before a sermon too.skenow: RT @paulsteinbrueck: Blogging is a good way to get conversation started in your churcha couple days before a sermon too.klamach: @Denise205 can we suggest out Priests/Ministers/Pastors blogs as food for thought?Denise205: T3 How might churches better minister through blogs? Good examples of who’salready doing this?SonofBosco: RT @MeredithGould: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @SmilingKIJ Blogging is a good way toget conversation started a couple days before a sermon too.skenow: @MeredithGould differentiation: a blog is not for transcriptionpaulsteinbrueck: @SmilingKIJ Blogging is a good way to get conversation started in your church acouple days before a sermon too.Sr_Lisa: @MeredithGould @sm4faith I found when I give a reflection, I have to modify it if I wantto post it. Otherwise, doesnt work.rev_david: Yes! Also, digital recording MT @sm4faith: Dial-up is still the norm in our ruralcommunities.youravgpastor: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @SmilingKIJ Blogging is a good way to get conversationstarted in your church a couple days before a sermon too.youravgpastor: The sermon audio goes up on my blog any time from Sun-Tues. Ive been using@hipcastmgoins: @paulsteinbrueck We do this via FB, but worthy of blog posts for sure!klamach: @chsocm also, for folks who may be looking for a website overhaul, many are moving toWordpress-driven sitesjazzpastord: @meredithgould unfortunately a good many churches are still way behind the curvein terms of being able to put up mp3ssmshepherds: RT @rev_david: T3 Grace Lutheran #ELCA in Houston has a good blog-as-websitet.co/GvmDBRRAsm4faith: Only some people prefer mp3s, other value being able to skimread, which can be faster.Variety rocks.tijuanabecky: A3 Church could better minister because blogging those who are visual or booklearners vs just hearing it. 9
  10. 10. SmilingKIJ: RT @tijuanabecky: A3 Church could better minister because blogging those who arevisual or book learners vs just hearing it.tijuanabecky: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 T3: A church could also blog immediately after asermon to keep the convo going & call to action.klamach: @chsocm our priests blog represents our mission pretty darn well t.co/8MZNDftmRevWeb: T3-I think blogs can help keep people connected between Sundays, extend coffee hourconversations.SophiaSPU: Whats your rule of thumb for frequency of blogs?erinwarde: I think doing some catachetical work (like "What does baptism do?") via blog couldhelp your congregation but also inquirers!MeredithGould: T3 A series of posts about liturgy, music, sanctuary decor, church governance --anything to inform, educate & inspire.paulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 T3: A church could also blog immediately after a sermon to keepthe convo going & call to action.MeredithGould: @smshepherds Exactly! I spend most of my time writing/teaching aboutdifferences in learning stylessmshepherds: @mgoins @MeredithGould While not a substitute, I think The Word resonates withpeoples different learning styles when read/viewed.skenow: @SophiaSPU whatever your frequency, be predictable - have a rhythmyouravgpastor: I found out a group from another congregation printed out a blog post fordiscussion recently. Blogs get ideas circulated &tested.jazzpastord: @paulsteinbrueck I like the idea of sermon convos via blog, but my folks look for thaton FB. I have a lot of collegial convos thererev_david: T3 Grace Lutheran #ELCA in Houston has a good blog-as-website t.co/GvmDBRRAMeredithGould: @SophiaSPU I think its impt to set expectations for posts every 4-7 days for achurch to reduce burnout for writersMeredithGould: @jazzpastord True. I served at a church that spent gazillion $ on the new socialhall but it wasnt wired for WiFi.SmilingKIJ: Id rather read than listen to an mp3, myself. (Visual learner here!)chaddbrooks: @paulsteinbrueck how easy has it been for you to build a blogging culture (ofwriting and reading) within your community 10
  11. 11. youravgpastor: @MeredithGould The big question is--is anally-retentive hyphenated in sermonpublication???rev_david: Good question! MT @youravgpastor: The big question: is anally-retentive hyphenatedin sermon publication???mgoins: @smshepherds I agree completely. We must all be cognizant of the various learning stylesthroughout mission, SM, etc.jazzpastord: @meredithgould turning long blog posts into a series. i never thought of thatSmilingKIJ: @erinwarde Agreed. And you can give resources with links on where to buy themonline.mgoins: @skenow Analogy for you. For me, an encyclopedia is to Wikipedia as a blog is to a wikipaulsteinbrueck: @jazzpastord If FB is a better medium for your church, thats great!skenow: In what ways would a wiki be better than an blog?chaddbrooks: @paulsteinbrueck we have a couple that might. FB groups have been something wehave considered and could do easily.smshepherds: @skenow On an internal level (administration, kids ministry, music, events,calendars), I think wikis have huge potential.rev_david: Its all about knowing your audience & what will engage them! #heardthisbefore#recurringthemesm4faith: Group blogs and blogging cycles can reduce load for volunteer clergy.paulsteinbrueck: @Denise205 T3: We have also had a couple sermon series @ my church wherewe did daily devotionals on a blog.MeredithGould: Personal blog: post once a week, maybe; for --> blog: a couple of times a weekmgoins: @erinwarde Excellent point! You must feed the audience with more than just a post. Tendthose posts.smshepherds: RT @ChrisWardYoung: Use different writers across areas/ministries. Keepsfrequency regular, but source freshjazzpastord: @paulsteinbrueck I like the idea of sermon convos via blog, but my folks look for thaton FB. I have a lot of collegial convos thereSr_Lisa: Same here. RT @mgoins: @paulsteinbrueck We do this via FB, but worthy of blog postsfor sure!sm4faith: Ok, gotta dash, bye all, but remember, the rules of blogging will often be local - suit yourmission, your bandwidth, your people. 11
  12. 12. mnplatypus: @klamach exactly what we just didSr_Lisa: @jazzpastord @paulsteinbrueck also, on a blog vs FB, the distractions are limited fromother feeds...tijuanabecky: @paulsteinbrueck @jazzpastord Could use a blog to expand beyond the 140 and theamount you can post on Facebook.chaddbrooks: @sophiaspu I havent done so well in the last few months, but I shoot for 3 posts aweek. I dont post on weekendserinwarde: If youre going to blog for ministry, you have to commit to answer comments.. Postingand not honoring audience would seem a failureerinwarde: @SmilingKIJ you can give a resource and BE a resource!skenow: @mgoins hmm, not quite sure I get that analogy. Too circularMeredithGould: RT @ChrisWardYoung: Use different writers across areas/ministries. Keepsfrequency regular, but source freshjazzpastord: @paulsteinbrueck FB works in interesting ways I get folks from across the country toconnect to whats happening in my local settingChrisWardYoung: Blogging, if youre going to do it, should be part of a wider church commsstragegy across multiple mediumsChrisWardYoung: @MeredithGould @SophiaSPU - or use different writers acrossareas/ministries. Keeps frequency regular, but source freshjazzpastord: @paulsteinbrueck plus my folks are not very type people. FB stretches most of themto the max. some will read a blog.paulsteinbrueck: @chaddbrooks Not easy at my church - we dont have that culture yet.MeredithGould: I stopped caring about analytics on my personal blog because a lot of my posts arewarm-up exercises for book content.Denise205: @sm4faith Those are great closing words! Thanks for joining in tonight.skenow: MT @sm4faith: ... the rules of blogging will often be local - suit your mission, yourbandwidth, your people.RevWeb: RT @mgoins: @erinwarde Excellent point! You must feed the audience with more thanjust a post. Tend those posts.skenow: @mgoins oooh - not in all circles. The relevancy of printed encyclopedia is outdated bythe time it goes to printpaulsteinbrueck: @erinwarde Absolutely! Must respond to comments. 12
  13. 13. djchuang247: @smshepherds @skenow agree that wiki have tons of potential; hurdle to getpeople motivated to keep it updatedjazzpastord: @skenow this is good advice for me - have a rhythm to posting. i am so sporadic but ido have auto alerts to Twitter/FB. that helpssmshepherds: MT @erinwarde If you blog for ministry, you have to commit to answer comments.Posting and not honoring audience = failure.paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Especially the nasty ones! Wheres the love in only being niceto nice people? :)mgoins: @skenow I havent seen a printed encyclopedia since I was a kid. ;-) Theyre all onlinenow... too expensive to print anyhow.paulsteinbrueck: @Sr_Lisa @jazzpastord You can also write blog posts & post links in FB, Twitterto try to engage everyone.ChrisWardYoung: @smshepherds - my Mate @Stevefogg runs a great, informative blogmgoins: @skenow Sorry, its the librarian in me. An encyclopedia can be seen as a better sourcethat Wikipedia.Sr_Lisa: Absolutely! RT @paulsteinbrueck: @jazzpastord You can also write blog posts & postlinks in FB, Twitter to try to engage everyone.thecatholiccoup: @Sr_Lisa very true! FB is full of so much noise! Your feed will only be seen if youpost just at the right time!chaddbrooks: @paulsteinbrueck @Sr_Lisa @jazzpastord I have learned which outlets do better topromote to different folks. read your analyticsjazzpastord: @revweb my congregation is pretty far from being able to do that. I still have elderswho want me to call when Ive sent an email.rev_david: What I love ab blogging as opposed to other SocM, is the permanence. A post fromyears/months ago can still be a convo point todaychaddbrooks: @meredithgould we need to talk openly about our blogs from pulpits/teachingplatforms etc. Vocally name it and folks will check inSophiaSPU: @smshepherds just moved our site over to wordpress and am giving ministry teamleads access to post so i can just proof and publishtijuanabecky: @Denise205 @smshepherds @gccwired does a pretty good job or this.SophiaSPU: Anyone experiment w/ video blogs as either a teaser/promote sermon or just toexperiment w/ different format?Denise205: MT @smshepherds: Still hoping you guys can share some stellar examples of blogsthat arent from authors or celebrity pastors. 13
  14. 14. rev_david: @Denise205 @smshepherds I think mine is pretty stellar. And Im only a celebrity inmy own mind. :-)Sr_Lisa: Bravo. RT @paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Especially the nasty ones! Wheres thelove in only being nice to nice people? :)mgoins: @youravgpastor If my 4th grader can do this as a class project, so can we all!MeredithGould: @paulsteinbrueck Ok, never mind nasty...Im talking about vicious vitriol Iveencountered on some sites. Christian love abiding?erinwarde: @SophiaSPU Yeah, what about Vlogging as being an intimate way to engageaudiences/share sermons?rev_david: Another well-done blog for ministry is @prkandersons. I really appreciate thelayout/content/engagementklamach: “@RevWeb: T3-I think blogs can help keep people connected between Sundays, extendcoffee hour conversations. ”//yes!rev_david: @MeredithGould Yes! Not book-related, but I blog for myself, not necessarily theanalyticsckbliss: RT @smshepherds: Still hoping you guys can share some stellar examples of blogs thatarent from authors or celebrity pastors. Anything? Bueller?youravgpastor: @SophiaSPU Saw a post last week about video posting. Ive played with a FlipVideo a few times. Need to get back into it.MeredithGould: RT @rev_david: Primary audience for church blog = members, potential visitors.Personal blog has wider intended audienceChrisWardYoung: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck - haters are gonna hate sadly, "Christian" ornotMeredithGould: @mgoins For the --> blog, I just hope to keep posting useful content & some funstuffdjchuang247: @smshepherds et al - t.co/IFTTEGH2 is an example of good pastor blog & video blogt.co/rzCelFaUyouravgpastor: @mgoins Ive been thinking about faith sharing from the congregation via video.Must go looking for some willing guinea pigs.rev_david: Primary audience for church blog = members, potential visitors. Personal blog haswider intended audiencejazzpastord: sheesh! it sure is hard to keep up with but Im glad to be chiming in as I can!chaddbrooks: @meredithgould I watch analytics not for hits, but to see what type of content isgetting read the most. It steers future writing. 14
  15. 15. Denise205: @SophiaSPU I think both would have their place...whats everyone else say? Who isyour audience for a ministry blog?smshepherds: @SophiaSPU Great question. Are your website, blog and social profiles targetingvisitors, members or ministries? Can it be all 3?jazzpastord: @chaddbrooks @meredithgould re: talking openly - most of mine dont checkin. Ikeep a low profile on TW, but am very open re:other 2chaddbrooks: @sophiaspu I have, but to work well I think they need to be slick. If they arent welldone it looks shabby to me.SophiaSPU: one question i keep coming back to is audience: are blogs for members who may/notread or for others?mgoins: @MeredithGould Then you get what you need from your personal blog then. Internalmeasurement counts too!chaddbrooks: @sr_lisa @chaddbrooks @mgoins FB is huge for me. Twitter does better for specificthings. I also look at what time to link.thecatholiccoup: Sometimes on twitter if you use hashtags related to your post you get newviewers.MeredithGould: @chaddbrooks I feel in super LOVE with Twitter because its micro-bloggingsmshepherds: @skenow Wait? They actually print off Wikipedia and sell it as a book? j/k :)mgoins: @MeredithGould Anyone else on tumblr? Our younger generation (like Im ancient orsomething as a GenX) seems to be there.rampracer: RT @erinwarde: @sophiaspu I agree that audience is both-This means though that wemust write carefully&not use inside terms that leavesome outMeredithGould: @thecatholiccoup Can you get an announcement instead?paulsteinbrueck: @mgoins Does tumblr allow commenting? If not, I dont see the point.skenow: @jazzpastord I have the same problem - disciplining myself to writeerinwarde: @thecatholiccoup I say do it.. But then write as if every member of your congregationis reading, bc you never know wholl tune in!klamach: @paulsteinbrueck @chsocm my blogs most viewed post is about the funeral of ahomeless man, via a searches on him humbledchaddbrooks: @meredithgould you get to truly know who you readthecatholiccoup: Ive thought about putting an ad in my church bulletin for my blog. Any thoughts? 15
  16. 16. youravgpastor: @SophiaSPU My blog has hit both inside/outside. Some topics hit a nerve. Ihavent focused too much on targets to this point.rev_david: Thanks all for a great convo again tonight! I love learning with and from you everyweek!tsudo: @chsocm I get an excused absence from tonight since I had a meeting at church right?smshepherds: RT @djchuang247: @smshepherds et al - t.co/IFTTEGH2 is an example of goodpastor blog & video blog t.co/rzCelFaUyouravgpastor: @mgoins we dont have any youth :( well, i suppose my 4 & 8 year old...MeredithGould: @skenow I do work-related writing almost every day. My challenge is doing "my"writingmgoins: @thecatholiccoup Include a link on your email sig file, on your web site. Anywhere yourpotential audience might find it.chaddbrooks: @thecatholiccoup why not? I have it on my business card and other stuffjazzpastord: Are u blogging as an individual, referring to the church OR as a particular congreg ORas the pastor of a particular congreg?jazzpastord: @rev_david thats OK. I will just enjoy this for the moment its here! a transitoryblessing!thecatholiccoup: @MeredithGould yes our bulletin has ads in the back for localbusinesses/doctors/restaurants.chaddbrooks: @meredithgould I use twitter for conversations, then others content and last mycontent. I love the relational factor.paulsteinbrueck: @klamach Thats cool. If ur strategic in ur blogging, u can bring in a lot ofoutsiders through search engines.MeredithGould: @thecatholiccoup Makes sense to put an announcement in the church bulletin...isthat what you mean by ad?Denise205: @jazzpastord Its fast-paced, but youre doing well I think. Transcript comes later tocatch what you missed.skenow: RT @smshepherds: @SophiaSPU Great question. Are your website, blog and socialprofiles targeting visitors, members or ministries?erinwarde: @sophiaspu I agree that audience is both-This means though that we must writecarefully&not use inside terms that leave some outmgoins: @youravgpastor try your youth... most active and willing in my arena. 16
  17. 17. ckbliss: is it possible/effective to have multiple target audiences on a blog? Or would a solid target(internal v external) be better.skenow: @MeredithGould well, I guess that is the same with me - I dont see that as writing, eventhough it can be creativeDenise205: @tsudo No excuses necessary. Sorry you missed our lively chat.thecatholiccoup: I blog as an individual :)SophiaSPU: @chaddbrooks yup, i know more folks moving to disqus for comments.chaddbrooks: @paulsteinbrueck I have installed disqus on tumblr sites. certain themes nativelyhave it and others donterinwarde: “@MeredithGould: At this point I can honestly say my dearest & most valuedcolleagues & frnds have come via Twitter ” we love you too! ;)rev_david: Heading out: But please pray for Texas tonight - another fire broke out in the Bastroparea, where they just put out the huge oneChrisWardYoung: Have to head out, but thanks for letting me hop on to the conversation.jazzpastord: @skenow finding time for TW, FB, sermon, worship planning, hospital visits, congreg.leadership, newsletter articles AND blog? #whewklamach: “@mgoins: @youravgpastor try your youth... most active and willing in my arena.”//yes!!!!!youravgpastor: @MeredithGould You rock bringing together the Catholics and Protestants This isa good thing.MeredithGould: @chaddbrooks At this point I can honestly say that my dearest & most valuedcolleagues & friends have come via Twitterchaddbrooks: @jazzpastord I blog as an individual, pastoring a certain congregation but reachingto a larger audiencemgoins: @paulsteinbrueck yes it does! Just started due to finding a few of my sons friends onthere. I need to keep up w/ where hell be!Denise205: We’re already coming up on the hour. Final thoughts before prayer?klamach: RT @rev_david: Primary audience for church blog = members, potential visitors.Personal blog has wider intended audiencepaulsteinbrueck: @chaddbrooks Ah, good to know.skenow: @jazzpastord everyone needs sabbath.mgoins: @SophiaSPU @chaddbrooks many of my professional journals are using it as well. 17
  18. 18. chaddbrooks: @ckbliss I do. But it is only 2 or 3. Name your posts and pay attention to categories.ckbliss: I find that the more fragmented my target gets, the more fragmented my content gets.fsantoni: Ok. Im here (for once). Whatd I miss?klamach: RT @MeredithGould: @chaddbrooks At this point I can honestly say that my dearest &most valued colleagues & friends have come via TwitterSmilingKIJ: Thanks everyone!Denise205: @ChrisWardYoung Thanks for joining us tonight!jazzpastord: @meredithgould this is where I generally am at the moment as well.klamach: RT @erinwarde: “@MeredithGould: At this point I can hnstly say my dearest&mostvalued colleagues&frnds hve come via Twitter ” we loveyou too! ;)RevWeb: When I launch my work blog Ill be looking to you folks for help. Thanks for all thesegreat ideas.MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, build community, be a person forothers, stay true to the GospelDenise205: @fsantoni Weve been chatting blogs tonight.MeredithGould: @RevWeb Youre launching a work blog???fsantoni: @Denise205 Thankserinwarde: Im out. Blessings to you all. As someone who works in social media, this is one of myfavorite parts of my job--this chsocm group!klamach: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, build community,be a person for others, stay true to the Gospelyouravgpastor: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, buildcommunity, be a person for others, stay true to the GospelSophiaSPU: how much cross posting/interaction do you have between personal/ministry/churchblogs?Denise205: Coming up on the hour, we conclude with this prayer from Compline:JustinWise: Id love to hear all of your thoughts on a comment experiment Im doing. No blogcomments for 30 days!smshepherds: Narrow focus for maximum impact. RT @ckbliss I find that the more fragmentedmy target gets, the more fragmented my content gets. 18
  19. 19. RevWeb: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, build community,be a person for others, stay true to the GospelMeredithGould: @JustinWise Makes sense to me!Denise205: Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep this night & give yourangels charge over those who sleep.skenow: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, build community, bea person for others, stay true to the Gospelsmshepherds: @JustinWise There goes the neighborhood :)chaddbrooks: @meredithgould true. people realize real quick if you are just trying to build a repand it shows. Always give, build and assist.paulsteinbrueck: @JustinWise No comments? Really? Why?smshepherds: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, buildcommunity, be a person for others, stay true to the Gospelyouravgpastor: @SophiaSPU I decided that if I have one FB profile that I will do one blog. Toodifficult for me keeping up w/more than one blog.ckbliss: @JustinWise so wait... Should we comment on no comments? :)JustinWise: @smshepherds Ha! Thats what happens when I show up late ;)mgoins: @JustinWise Not allowing comments or not giving comments and if so to your posters orto other blogs? Inquiring minds want to knowpaulsteinbrueck: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, buildcommunity, be a person for others, stay true to the Gospelskenow: @JustinWise Ive seen another suggestion: a reverse blog. Comments first, content secondklamach: Rt @Denise205: Keep watch, dear Lord, with those who work or watch or weep thisnight & give your angels charge over those who sleepJustinWise: @paulsteinbrueck t.co/X5dnAu8Gsarahnapoline: RT @MeredithGould: Final thoughts: Contribute more than you take, buildcommunity, be a person for others, stay true to the Gospelckbliss: @chaddbrooks cool. Ive even debated different channels... But I just dont have thecontent :)Denise205: We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for your contributions & insights. Join us againnext Tuesday @9pm EDT. 19
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