Discipline Followup
Discipline FollowupRecent Wednesday night class – covered thetopic in a thorough studyThis lesson is a follow-up to that...
Who can be disciplined?There are many specific sins and acts that arementioned in the NTIn summary – there are three cat...
MisapplicationMany churches dont practice disciplinebecause:− We did once. It did not work.− We are afraid that many will...
MisapplicationChurch membership is voluntary− You choose to be a member at Cades− You can choose to stop being a memberI...
MisapplicationLessons to learn1.Membership is voluntary2.Member can stop anytime they choose3.Once they withdraw themselv...
What is the punishment?The area that is most confusing to many – Howdo I treat the offender?− Can we eat at the same rest...
What is the punishment?Focus on “Fellowship”Define:Partner, share in common, joint participationMore than eat together ...
What is the punishment?Issue / Problem:Do we have it?You can not take away what they dont have.Take away driving privil...
What is the punishment?Remove Fellowship means:Not recognized as a memberRemove from church directoryNot used in any wa...
What is the punishment?What must we do?Tell them that you care about themTell them you wish they would repent andreturn ...
What is the punishment?What must we do?2 Thessalonians 3:14-15 14 And if anyonedoes not obey our word in this epistle, no...
Other difficult questionsIf a family member – they are still part of yourblood family− They were removed from the church ...
Other difficult questionsWhat if you work for them?− They are still your boss− Obey them on the job as if you worked for ...
Command2 Thessalonians 3:6 But we commandyou, brethren, in the name of our LordJesus Christ, that you withdraw from every...
Final ConsiderationBEFORE WE CAN DISFELLOWSHIP –WE MUST HAVE A FELLOWSHIPWHICH THEY TREASURE.BEFORE THEY CAN FEEL ANYPUN...
Final ConsiderationDO YOU HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITHTHE MEMBERS OF THISCONGREGATION?DO YOU HAVE THAT FELLOWSHIPWITH THE FATHER...
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Discipline followup

  1. 1. Discipline Followup
  2. 2. Discipline FollowupRecent Wednesday night class – covered thetopic in a thorough studyThis lesson is a follow-up to that studyIn this sermon:− Summarize – WHO can be disciplined?− Misapplication – HOW used wrongly?− Expand – HOW are they disciplined?
  3. 3. Who can be disciplined?There are many specific sins and acts that arementioned in the NTIn summary – there are three categories1.Moral – 1 Corinthians 5:9-112.Doctrinal – 2 John 9-113.Trouble-maker – Romans 16:17− Cause division− Stir up dissent, gossip, busybody, talebearer− Rebellion, disrupt the fellowship
  4. 4. MisapplicationMany churches dont practice disciplinebecause:− We did once. It did not work.− We are afraid that many will leave.− It was done out of anger.− It was done in haste, too quickly.The most common use of church discipline isLack of Church Attendance.
  5. 5. MisapplicationChurch membership is voluntary− You choose to be a member at Cades− You can choose to stop being a memberIf one stops attending - - - They have already“withdrawn fellowship” from the church.Court case in Collinsville, Colorado, 1981− Woman in fornication – stopped attending− Sent letter to be removed from church
  6. 6. MisapplicationLessons to learn1.Membership is voluntary2.Member can stop anytime they choose3.Once they withdraw themselves – church hasno further action they can take4.You can not punish them by “withdrawal” whenthey have already withdrawn themselves
  7. 7. What is the punishment?The area that is most confusing to many – Howdo I treat the offender?− Can we eat at the same restaurant?− Can we play golf? Travel, vacation together?− Can we be at the same PTA meeting?− When can we NOT associate with them?− What if they keep coming to worship services?
  8. 8. What is the punishment?Focus on “Fellowship”Define:Partner, share in common, joint participationMore than eat together in “fellowship room”Our fellowship is spiritual – in the church, in ourrelation to ChristISSUE: Do we have it?
  9. 9. What is the punishment?Issue / Problem:Do we have it?You can not take away what they dont have.Take away driving privilege from 3 yr. OldParents – When you take away a privilege –make sure it is something they will miss.If they dont have it – they will not miss it!
  10. 10. What is the punishment?Remove Fellowship means:Not recognized as a memberRemove from church directoryNot used in any way in church activityThings are not the same in our relationshipWe still love them, care about their soulWe want them to repent and come back
  11. 11. What is the punishment?What must we do?Tell them that you care about themTell them you wish they would repent andreturn to faithful serviceEncourage them to talk about their situationand help them understand what they are doingis wrong
  12. 12. What is the punishment?What must we do?2 Thessalonians 3:14-15 14 And if anyonedoes not obey our word in this epistle, note thatperson and do not keep company with him, thathe may be ashamed. 15 Yet do not count himas an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.Admonish = correct, urge to changeBrother = in error, but still a brother
  13. 13. Other difficult questionsIf a family member – they are still part of yourblood family− They were removed from the church not thehomeWhat if you see them on the street?− Speak, encourage, admonishCan they still attend here?− Church building is a public building.− Yes, they can attend – not disrupt
  14. 14. Other difficult questionsWhat if you work for them?− They are still your boss− Obey them on the job as if you worked for anyother lost personHow do we communicate our action to othercongregations in the area?− How much detail?− How far reaching should the letter go?
  15. 15. Command2 Thessalonians 3:6 But we commandyou, brethren, in the name of our LordJesus Christ, that you withdraw from everybrother who walks disorderly and notaccording to the tradition which hereceived from us.Just like faith, repent, baptism, pray, worshipThis is a COMMAND from God.
  16. 16. Final ConsiderationBEFORE WE CAN DISFELLOWSHIP –WE MUST HAVE A FELLOWSHIPWHICH THEY TREASURE.BEFORE THEY CAN FEEL ANYPUNISHMENT OR SENSE OF LOSS –THERE MUST BE SOMETHING OFVALUE THAT THEY LOSE.
  17. 17. Final ConsiderationDO YOU HAVE FELLOWSHIP WITHTHE MEMBERS OF THISCONGREGATION?DO YOU HAVE THAT FELLOWSHIPWITH THE FATHER, SON AND HOLYSPRIT?ARE YOU IN FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD?

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