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Extreme Interviewing - Lisamarie Babik of Menlo Innovations

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  • EXTREME INTERVIEWING: FINDING THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR YOUR AGILE TEAMS Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations
  • Why are we here at o-dark-thirty?
    • Learn a little about Menlo
    • Learn how and why Extreme Interviewing was created
    • Simulate an Extreme Interviewing event
    • Have fun! (Yes, even at 8:30 am on the last day of the conference!)
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • A Little About Me
    • My life before Agile (there was life before agile?)
    • What I do at Menlo
    • Why I love what I do
    • Everything you need to know about how I didn’t invent Extreme Interviewing
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • A Little About Menlo
    • Founded in 2001 by four partners
    • We build no products for ourselves; rather we build products for other people
    Our self-stated mission is to “…end human suffering in the world as it relates to technology.” (And to have a lot of fun while we’re doing it!) Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Setting Some Context Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • We Pair All the Time, Every Day Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • We believe…
    • In building a learning organization
      • Languages and technology can be taught
      • Good kindergarten skills cannot
    • We are willing to invest in our people
      • A person’s aptitudes are more important that his or her current skills
      • We aren’t interested as much in what you already know but what can you learn?
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Let’s jump into the Wayback Machine
    • It’s 1999
    • Interface Systems is the #1 publicly traded company in Michigan
    • Richard Sheridan is VP of Product Development
    • The company has newly adopted XP as a way to improve software development capabilities
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • The mandate from management
    • Double the team
    • (from 14 to 28)
    • Not simply increase body count, but increase productive output.
    • New team members must embrace XP
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • “ Old Style” interviewing
    • Each interviewer sits with a candidate for 1 hour
    • Each candidate is interviewed by 3 people
    • The people who interviewed each person meet for 30 minutes
    • We interview 2-4-8-? candidates for each open position
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Do the math…
    • 1 hour interview
    • X 3 interviewers
    • X 8 candidates per position
    • X 14 positions
    • ----------------------
    • = 336 man hours
    This would keep 3 interviewers busy full-time for almost 3 weeks! Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • And would it…
    • Predict how they’d react to the open and collaborative environment (e.g. “Where’s my cube? How come it’s so noisy?”)
    • Effectively predict how they’d work in a paired environment?
    • Tell us about their teamwork capabilities?
    • Help the team hire diverse talent (e.g. with different skills than their own, or different cognitive styles)?
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • What if?
    • You could interview 50 candidates in 1 morning?
    • You could effectively learn how they might interact with others in your work environment? (e.g. pairing behaviors)?
    • Candidates could learn if they really like
    • working this way before they took the job?
    • No one reads the resumes first?
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • If you’re good at teamwork…
    • … and you’re good at pairing
    • You should be able to put team goals above your own goals
    • You should be able to collaborate under pressure
    • You will share the tools you’re using
    • You should be able to work with people of different abilities
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • So why not interview as a pair?
    • It allows you to demonstrate your pairing skills
    • It allows you to work with people of differing abilities
    • It allows you to show how you work under pressure
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Facilitators and Participants Facilitator Participants Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Partners & Facilitators change
    • Round One
    • Round Two
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    • You are interviewing to join the Menlo Innovations’ development team. Your first activity is ESTIMATION.
    • You have 10 minutes to complete the activity.
    Activity #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    • You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is PLANNING.
    • You have 10 minutes to complete the activity.
    Activity #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    • You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is UNIT TESTING.
    • You have 10 minutes to complete the activity.
    Activity #3 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Q & A #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Evaluation Process
    • The original evaluation form was very simple.
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Evaluation Process
    • It became more complex and more complete.
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Evaluation Process
    • Ultimately what we want is a simple summary.
    • The first decision we make is “Do we want to ask this person back for a second interview?”
    Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    • You’re going to observe a pair working together. Watch the woman in the blue shirt.
    • What do you see?
    Exercise #4 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Interview Pair #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Interview Pair #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Evaluation Process Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Q & A #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
  • Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]
  • Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]
  • Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]