SlideShare a Scribd company logo
1 of 9
By Anand Paranjpe
The approach …
In the Western world In the orient
 Self, ego and identity
 The division of : Self as
subject Vs. Self as object
(William James)
 Identifies and interprets
identity as a mere “sense” of
self-sameness.
 No mention of the experience
of self-sameness.
 Atman, ahamkara and the
concern for self-sameness
(nitya-anitya viveka)
 The division of : Vishayin
(subject) and Vishaya
(object)
 The tradition of Yoga and
Advaita speaks about a firm
foundation for self-sameness.
Influences of the Western-world
philosophers…
The empiricist tradition The rational tradition
 This school of thought was
based on the works of David
Hume, an 18th-century
Scottish philosopher.
 Mainly denied the self and
the concept of self-sameness
because it essentially was not
‘measureable’.
 Rejected ‘causality’.
 This school of thought was
based on the teachings of
Rene Descartes and
Immanuel Kant.
 Affirmed the concept of the
self on the other.
 Strong belief in causality in
order to grasp an idea and
therefore acknowledged the
“self” as the knower that
remains the same with the
passage of time.
Vis-à-vis the philosophy in the sub-
continent…
Upanishadic thought Buddhist thought
 The ‘Self’ has been described
as the ‘Atman’ and the
Vedanta has lain emphasis on
that self as the observer/seer.
 This paved the way for the
Samkhya school of thought
that speaks about the
observer (Purusha) and the
observed (Prakriti).
 The ‘Self’ was denied through
the process of ‘Anatta’.
 Anatta is the rejection of all
material things that are said
to cause attachment and
pain.
Yoga and Advaita
 The flow of thoughts can be, through discipline and careful
practice, controlled and eventually, stopped altogether
(Yoga Sutras by Patanjali).
 Only then does the mind reach the “fourth state” as spoken
about in the Mandukya Upanishad.
 These thoughts are what Patanjali calls “chitta-vrittis”;
which like a river (chitta-nadi : Vyasa); flow through the
mind.
 The ego is thus effaced and the stage that follows ultimately
is called Samadhi.
 Advaita speaks about the self as the witness and the only
factor that is changeless.
Advaita and pre-Renaissance western
philosophy
 Hume too had rejected the self but the assumption in
the Western world is in stark contrast to that in India.
 The Indian tradition has been built upon the
foundation of karma and rebirth.
 The west on the other hand believes in a single life, is
achievement-focused and is not based on the concept
of cause and consequence.
 Advaita focused on the Drg or the one that witnesses.
 Buddhism spoke about withdrawal from the senses
and the achievement of Nirvana.
Behavioral psychology in the west
 The western belief was that the self is being controlled
by an outside force over which we can have no control.
 The psychologists refused to enter the vicissitudes of
the mind and dismissed it as an “impenetrable
mystery”.
 It is thus that the desire to “control” others found
validation, so as to create order.
Indian thought…
 The desire to control humans does not exist.
 The various schools of thought have repeatedly spoken
about “introspection”.
 Understanding oneself was the underlying feature in
the Indian way of thought.
 The eternal belief in the fact that knowledge is that
which helps liberation (from the repeated cycle of
births and deaths) “Sa vidya ya vimuktaye”.
THANK YOU!

More Related Content

What's hot

Introduction Psychopathology
Introduction PsychopathologyIntroduction Psychopathology
Introduction PsychopathologySara Dawod
 
Chapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social Psychology
Chapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social PsychologyChapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social Psychology
Chapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social Psychologyqulbabbas4
 
Happiness & wellbeing.pptx
Happiness & wellbeing.pptxHappiness & wellbeing.pptx
Happiness & wellbeing.pptxSidra Akhtar
 
History of abnormal psychology
History of abnormal psychologyHistory of abnormal psychology
History of abnormal psychologyAlex Vellappally
 
Research Methods in Psychology
Research Methods in PsychologyResearch Methods in Psychology
Research Methods in PsychologyJames Neill
 
Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2
Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2
Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2MuhammadAbdullah838
 
Buddhist Psychology
Buddhist PsychologyBuddhist Psychology
Buddhist PsychologyIan Campbell
 
Introduction To Clinical Psychology
Introduction To Clinical PsychologyIntroduction To Clinical Psychology
Introduction To Clinical Psychologyrenjmat
 
Psychology as a Science
Psychology as a SciencePsychology as a Science
Psychology as a ScienceMichel Newman
 
Psychology in india
Psychology in indiaPsychology in india
Psychology in indiabalurose
 
Theories of Attitude Change
Theories of Attitude ChangeTheories of Attitude Change
Theories of Attitude ChangeDr. Neeta Gupta
 
Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)
Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)
Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)Dr Rajesh Verma
 
PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)
PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)
PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)MissTiwari
 
Social psychology introduction
Social psychology introductionSocial psychology introduction
Social psychology introductionsanchicreator
 
Psychodynamic Model
Psychodynamic ModelPsychodynamic Model
Psychodynamic ModelAamna Haneef
 
Causes of aggression copy
Causes of aggression   copyCauses of aggression   copy
Causes of aggression copyRenju Chandran
 

What's hot (20)

Introduction Psychopathology
Introduction PsychopathologyIntroduction Psychopathology
Introduction Psychopathology
 
Chapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social Psychology
Chapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social PsychologyChapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social Psychology
Chapter 13 Introduction to Applied Social Psychology
 
Happiness & wellbeing.pptx
Happiness & wellbeing.pptxHappiness & wellbeing.pptx
Happiness & wellbeing.pptx
 
History of abnormal psychology
History of abnormal psychologyHistory of abnormal psychology
History of abnormal psychology
 
Research Methods in Psychology
Research Methods in PsychologyResearch Methods in Psychology
Research Methods in Psychology
 
Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2
Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2
Nature and scope of social psychology lecture 2
 
Buddhist Psychology
Buddhist PsychologyBuddhist Psychology
Buddhist Psychology
 
Introduction To Clinical Psychology
Introduction To Clinical PsychologyIntroduction To Clinical Psychology
Introduction To Clinical Psychology
 
Psychology as a Science
Psychology as a SciencePsychology as a Science
Psychology as a Science
 
Psychology in india
Psychology in indiaPsychology in india
Psychology in india
 
Attribution
AttributionAttribution
Attribution
 
Schools of psychology.pptx
Schools of psychology.pptxSchools of psychology.pptx
Schools of psychology.pptx
 
Theories of Attitude Change
Theories of Attitude ChangeTheories of Attitude Change
Theories of Attitude Change
 
Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)
Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)
Nature of attention (Meaning, Definition and Theories in brief)
 
Associationism
AssociationismAssociationism
Associationism
 
PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)
PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)
PGI MEMORY SCALE.(PSYCHOLOGY)
 
Social psychology introduction
Social psychology introductionSocial psychology introduction
Social psychology introduction
 
Psychodynamic Model
Psychodynamic ModelPsychodynamic Model
Psychodynamic Model
 
Hinduism
HinduismHinduism
Hinduism
 
Causes of aggression copy
Causes of aggression   copyCauses of aggression   copy
Causes of aggression copy
 

Similar to Comparing Views of Self and Identity in Western and Eastern Philosophy

Self Western and Oriental\ Eastern Thoughtpptx
Self Western and Oriental\ Eastern ThoughtpptxSelf Western and Oriental\ Eastern Thoughtpptx
Self Western and Oriental\ Eastern ThoughtpptxChrisiaMaeGonzales1
 
Psychology unit - 1
Psychology unit - 1Psychology unit - 1
Psychology unit - 1Pavithra L N
 
Paper Published-2015.
Paper Published-2015.Paper Published-2015.
Paper Published-2015.Meera Sharma
 
Structuralism
Structuralism Structuralism
Structuralism nabelas
 
No. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdf
No. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdfNo. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdf
No. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdfJOANCAMANGA1
 
Krishna And The Souls
Krishna And The SoulsKrishna And The Souls
Krishna And The SoulsYahshua Hosch
 
samkhya and yoga.ppt
samkhya and yoga.pptsamkhya and yoga.ppt
samkhya and yoga.pptRAJParmar64
 
Indian philosophy
Indian philosophyIndian philosophy
Indian philosophyCAAS
 
A history of psychology section 3
A history of psychology section 3 A history of psychology section 3
A history of psychology section 3 kapahemu
 
Indian Philosophy.pptx
Indian Philosophy.pptxIndian Philosophy.pptx
Indian Philosophy.pptxMonojitGope
 
Major vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdf
Major vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdfMajor vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdf
Major vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdfNarendra Joshi
 
The folk theory of nondual enlightenment
The folk theory of nondual enlightenmentThe folk theory of nondual enlightenment
The folk theory of nondual enlightenmentJody Radzik
 

Similar to Comparing Views of Self and Identity in Western and Eastern Philosophy (20)

Thinking east
Thinking eastThinking east
Thinking east
 
Self Western and Oriental\ Eastern Thoughtpptx
Self Western and Oriental\ Eastern ThoughtpptxSelf Western and Oriental\ Eastern Thoughtpptx
Self Western and Oriental\ Eastern Thoughtpptx
 
Psychology unit - 1
Psychology unit - 1Psychology unit - 1
Psychology unit - 1
 
Paper Published-2015.
Paper Published-2015.Paper Published-2015.
Paper Published-2015.
 
Structuralism
Structuralism Structuralism
Structuralism
 
No. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdf
No. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdfNo. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdf
No. 20_CAMANGA_INDIAN PHILOSOPHY(BUDDHISM,ZEN BUDDHISM).pdf
 
Advaita vedanta
Advaita vedantaAdvaita vedanta
Advaita vedanta
 
Vedanta
VedantaVedanta
Vedanta
 
Krishna And The Souls
Krishna And The SoulsKrishna And The Souls
Krishna And The Souls
 
Structuralism,
Structuralism,Structuralism,
Structuralism,
 
samkhya and yoga.ppt
samkhya and yoga.pptsamkhya and yoga.ppt
samkhya and yoga.ppt
 
Hinduism 1
Hinduism 1Hinduism 1
Hinduism 1
 
Hinduism 1
Hinduism 1Hinduism 1
Hinduism 1
 
Indian philosophy
Indian philosophyIndian philosophy
Indian philosophy
 
A history of psychology section 3
A history of psychology section 3 A history of psychology section 3
A history of psychology section 3
 
Indian Philosophy.pptx
Indian Philosophy.pptxIndian Philosophy.pptx
Indian Philosophy.pptx
 
The Vedas
The VedasThe Vedas
The Vedas
 
Major vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdf
Major vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdfMajor vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdf
Major vakyas and ideas of Upanishads Dr Narendra Joshi.pdf
 
ANUJ KUMAWAT.pptx
ANUJ KUMAWAT.pptxANUJ KUMAWAT.pptx
ANUJ KUMAWAT.pptx
 
The folk theory of nondual enlightenment
The folk theory of nondual enlightenmentThe folk theory of nondual enlightenment
The folk theory of nondual enlightenment
 

Comparing Views of Self and Identity in Western and Eastern Philosophy

  • 2. The approach … In the Western world In the orient  Self, ego and identity  The division of : Self as subject Vs. Self as object (William James)  Identifies and interprets identity as a mere “sense” of self-sameness.  No mention of the experience of self-sameness.  Atman, ahamkara and the concern for self-sameness (nitya-anitya viveka)  The division of : Vishayin (subject) and Vishaya (object)  The tradition of Yoga and Advaita speaks about a firm foundation for self-sameness.
  • 3. Influences of the Western-world philosophers… The empiricist tradition The rational tradition  This school of thought was based on the works of David Hume, an 18th-century Scottish philosopher.  Mainly denied the self and the concept of self-sameness because it essentially was not ‘measureable’.  Rejected ‘causality’.  This school of thought was based on the teachings of Rene Descartes and Immanuel Kant.  Affirmed the concept of the self on the other.  Strong belief in causality in order to grasp an idea and therefore acknowledged the “self” as the knower that remains the same with the passage of time.
  • 4. Vis-à-vis the philosophy in the sub- continent… Upanishadic thought Buddhist thought  The ‘Self’ has been described as the ‘Atman’ and the Vedanta has lain emphasis on that self as the observer/seer.  This paved the way for the Samkhya school of thought that speaks about the observer (Purusha) and the observed (Prakriti).  The ‘Self’ was denied through the process of ‘Anatta’.  Anatta is the rejection of all material things that are said to cause attachment and pain.
  • 5. Yoga and Advaita  The flow of thoughts can be, through discipline and careful practice, controlled and eventually, stopped altogether (Yoga Sutras by Patanjali).  Only then does the mind reach the “fourth state” as spoken about in the Mandukya Upanishad.  These thoughts are what Patanjali calls “chitta-vrittis”; which like a river (chitta-nadi : Vyasa); flow through the mind.  The ego is thus effaced and the stage that follows ultimately is called Samadhi.  Advaita speaks about the self as the witness and the only factor that is changeless.
  • 6. Advaita and pre-Renaissance western philosophy  Hume too had rejected the self but the assumption in the Western world is in stark contrast to that in India.  The Indian tradition has been built upon the foundation of karma and rebirth.  The west on the other hand believes in a single life, is achievement-focused and is not based on the concept of cause and consequence.  Advaita focused on the Drg or the one that witnesses.  Buddhism spoke about withdrawal from the senses and the achievement of Nirvana.
  • 7. Behavioral psychology in the west  The western belief was that the self is being controlled by an outside force over which we can have no control.  The psychologists refused to enter the vicissitudes of the mind and dismissed it as an “impenetrable mystery”.  It is thus that the desire to “control” others found validation, so as to create order.
  • 8. Indian thought…  The desire to control humans does not exist.  The various schools of thought have repeatedly spoken about “introspection”.  Understanding oneself was the underlying feature in the Indian way of thought.  The eternal belief in the fact that knowledge is that which helps liberation (from the repeated cycle of births and deaths) “Sa vidya ya vimuktaye”.