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    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] The Hate Debate April 15, 2014 by Megan LivingWhole.org Filling in the holes together... Home About Contact Supplements 40 Days of Raw Food
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] I am sick of it – this vaccination debate. My convictions not to vaccinate have been firm for six years now and I was comfortable living a low-profile life and letting other more notable activists carry the torch; and then I started seeing misleading t.v. interviews, news stories, and backlash against parents and unvaccinated children. I saw reputable medical professionals get crucified and reputations destroyed for questioning the mainstream norm. I saw laws passed in other states removing freedoms that rightfully belong to parents and individuals as a whole. I saw fear, blame, finger-pointing, lies, and flat out hate being propagated and encouraged by people, physicians, and popular media avenues towards parents who don’t vaccinate, and their children. This isn’t a vaccination debate, it’s a hate debate, so let’s call it what it is. And when it got personal, I got involved. Most importantly, I felt the need to clear a few things up: I am not an “anti-vaxxer” or a “disinformation activist.” I am a parent. Some people believe that parents can’t make an educated decision on this issue, that you should check all of your questions and reservations about vaccinating at the door and trust your physician, that is unless your physician also questions vaccines (or supports a delayed schedule), then he’s a quack. Despite what you have been told, it takes no credentials, no formal education, and no “M.D” behind your name to take an educated stance on this issue – it only takes a brain…and everybody’s got one. Of course, if you decide not to vaccinate you’ll be harassed and told to pull your child out of public school. Funny how we do have the credentials to educate our children but don’t have the credentials to make an informed decision about vaccines. So put your credentials away, you didn’t need them to have a baby, and you don’t need them to raise one either. All medical professionals who do not support vaccines are “quacks, hucksters or bold face liars.” This argument might have carried some weight when only one physician spoke out against vaccines; but today, there are so many that its conveniently suspicious that every single time a physician comes out in support of not vaccinating or recommends a delayed schedule they get attacked, discredited, and demoted to “quack status.” I’m sorry but these physicians sat through the same classes. They passed their licensing boards like all of the other doctors, many have the prestigious “M.D” behind their names too, but because they
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] read the research and came to a different conclusion and had the guts to say so, they’re stance is somehow less credible? Attacking these physicians (whether they are an MD, DO, ND, or DC) is a bad idea. It makes one look like a bully and nobody likes a bully – not on the playground and not in the grown-up world either. Speaking of bullies, stop showing us pictures of sick children, telling us that there’s no link between MMR and autism, or telling us dramatic narratives of an “infant who almost died of measles.” According to a recent study published in the American Academy of Pediatrics, these messages elicit a “backfire effect” that only strengthens our deepest convictions – which to be honest, are based on a whole lot more than the autism debate. Is anyone else offended that a study was done where these misleading and one-sided messages were propagated among 1759 people to see if it would convince them to vaccinate? Is anyone else offended that these same tactics are still being used on us? I don’t call this the “backfire effect,” I call this the bully effect. If we’re going to have to view pictures of sick children, please include pictures of children who have suffered from vaccine injuries and death and children who got a “vaccine preventable disease” from being vaccinated. Thanks, whether or not we vaccinate is now part of the “Mommy Wars.” As if mothers didn’t have enough things to be divided over, you’ve made it so that wherever we go be it daycares, schools, or playgroups we are ridiculed, judged, shunned, and our children as a whole are blamed for the re-emergence of diseases that never left and for spreading diseases they’ve never had. You made this a “Mommy War” issue when you somehow insinuated that a woman isn’t a good mother unless she vaccinates her child. You made this a mommy issue when I had to kneel down and explain to my three-year-old child why she was being discriminated against. You made this a mommy issue when you supported and promoted the following hateful belief system: “[On the topic of vaccines.] We owe it to our children–all of our children–to speak out against this dangerous and misguided parenting choice before more are infected with horrifying diseases that were extinguished decades ago. Choosing not to vaccinate is not yet another anodyne trend in personal parenting.
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] It’s not a quirk; it’s a menace—and a growing one at that.” – Bethany via the Federalist Papers You know what makes a good mother, one who actually educates herself, questions what is put into her child’s body and makes an informed decision (whether she chooses to vaccinate or not). Call me a menace, call me a misguided parent, and blame me for spreading “horrifying diseases” that are actually neither horrifying nor extinguished. If it makes you feel better to fuel fire and spread hate than by all means proceed, as it doesn’t make your side of the movement look very good. I will neither hate nor discriminate against a mother’s decision on the issue of vaccination. No, I will not be part of the hate debate. In our society we’re taught, told, and sometimes forced to be tolerant of other religions, races, and minority groups, people of different sexual orientations, women in the work place, and of a woman’s right to choose. We advocate bullying campaigns in schools to teach our children to respect others, but in the area of the hate debate, the voice of tolerance gets shoved aside. In the last few weeks I have seen articles blaming “anti-vaxxers for measles outbreaks,” referring to us as loonies who have brought measles back from the brink of eradication (of course we’ll pretend that measles didn’t hit an all-time high of 222 cases in 2011 and that there weren’t 54 cases in 2012, and 189 cases in 2013). An NY Times op ed piece suggested that vaccine exemptions should be eliminated. A post on a Harvard blog last year suggested parents who choose not to vaccinate should be sued and held criminally liable for an outbreak traced back to their unvaccinated child…which is funny because I hear no one recommending the same for an outbreak traced back to a vaccinated child. In a “TIME” op ed piece we were labeled misinformed, spoiled, and peddlers of “junk science.” Article after article insinuates hate, fear mongering, and inaccurate propaganda that encourages intolerance towards individuals and parents who choose not to vaccinate their children. And what’s being recommended by vaccine advocacy groups is nothing short of discrimination and segregation: We’re told that our vaccine exemptions should be curtailed, that they should be removed, that we should be forced to home school and prohibited from public
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] schools and day cares. What’s next…will my children have to wear a patch on their clothing to delineate their vaccine status? We all preach tolerance until there’s an opposing view. I for one will teach my children that despite what others may think of them, they are to neither discriminate nor disrespect another human being on the basis of one’s vaccination status. “Vaccine preventable” diseases aren’t making a comeback, they never left. In a TIME article the unvaccinated were blamed for “4 Diseases Making a Comeback.” Funny how we’re blamed for the outbreaks of diseases that never left. According to the CDC there were 222 cases of measles in 2011 (35-56% of which occurred in the vaccinated population), 54 in 2012, and 189 in 2013. As of April 10, 2014 there have only been 108 confirmed cases of measles. According to the CDC, measles isn’t a “deadly disease” it is “an illness characterized by a generalized rash lasting ≥3 days, a temperature of ≥101°F [≥38.3°C], and cough, coryza, or conjunctivitis.”   And what about mumps? In 2006, there were over 6,500 reported cases of mumps. In 2007-2008 there were a few hundred cases reported. In 2009 there were over 3,500 cases of mumps and in 2011-2013 levels returned to the “normal” few hundred cases reported. Between January 1st and April 4th, 164 cases of mumps were reported. Seriously…only 164? I don’t know about you but it’s looking like a pretty good year so far. The CDC states on its website that one dose of MMR is only 78% effective at preventing mumps and that “outbreaks can still occur in highly vaccinated U.S. communities, particularly in close-contact settings.” My favorite part? “Almost all people with mumps fully recover after a few weeks.” Please, tell me again how deadly mumps is and why my unvaccinated child is to blame for the comeback of a disease that never left? And yet, we’re also to blame for the whooping cough outbreaks occurring in almost exclusively vaccinated populations who were vaccinated with an ineffective vaccine that makes one an asymptomatic carrier for the disease. According to the CDC, “the number of reported pertussis cases have been steadily increasing since the 1980s.” Other news sources have reported that the pertussis bacteria is becoming resistant to the vaccine and that  B. parapertussis might actually be to
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] blame for some of the outbreaks. According to the New England Journal of Medicine, even after five doses of Dtap a person’s chance of acquiring pertussis increases by 42% each year. Why didn’t I see this on the news? So, do we have an ineffective vaccine that’s actually causing outbreaks or is it the unvaccinated child that is making all of the vaccinated children sick? I personally think we should make sure before we start pointing the finger. Then again, I’m not a fan of the hate in this debate so maybe we should stop pointing the finger at children and start asking questions.  Finally, there’s chicken pox. Chicken pox is a very benign childhood disease that affected approximately 4 million people per year and had a death rate of 0.4% before vaccine licensure. A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that even with the vaccine, 10 percent of vaccinated children contracted the disease anyway.  I’m so glad everyone has discovered that the whole “your unvaccinated kid is a risk to my vaccinated kid” argument is extremely flawed if one believe vaccines actually work; but now we’re being blamed for putting those who can’t be vaccinated at risk? “Recently a 4-year-old girl with leukemia died from chickenpox. People with compromised immune systems have a greater risk of severe complications from chickenpox and may not be able to get the chickenpox vaccine. That’s why it’s important that these people be protected by herd immunity […].” This was on the CDC’s website and is the typical propaganda being peddled around and used by others to emotionally manipulate, pressure, and guilt people into getting vaccinated. I personally have a lot of issues with this type of propaganda. Death and sickness are horrible, especially when it comes to children; but we forget that children with severely compromised immune systems (as with the case of leukemia) can’t be around any sick child. Yes, my unvaccinated child could have a virus and be asymptomatic but the same applies to a vaccinated child. A child vaccinated for pertussis could be an asymptomatic carrier for the disease. A person vaccinated “
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] with MMR could have the vaccine-strain measles virus. A person vaccinated for chicken pox could shed the varicella virus and cause outbreaks.  Save the last few years (when vaccines became above reproach), it was common course to recommend that a cancer patient avoid all contact with recently vaccinated children because of the propensity of live vaccine viruses to shed. The chicken pox vaccine is a live virus vaccine that not only sheds but could cause chicken pox in a vaccinated individual – even if it’s a less severe case with only a few marks, this could be deadly to someone with leukemia. So who exactly is the risk here? If you read the CDC’s “Summary of Principles for Vaccinating Immunocompromised Persons” you’ll find the following: “Killed or inactivated vaccines do not represent a danger to immunocompromised persons and generally should be administered as recommended for healthy persons. For specific immunocompromising conditions [...] additional vaccines, [...] are recommended for them […] and higher doses or more frequent boosters may be required [...].” So let me get this straight, we’re being told that our unvaccinated children are a risk to the immunocompromised when the CDC states that inactive vaccines aren’t a danger AND that the immunocompromised should get vaccinated with higher doses and more frequent boosters than the rest of the population? What about Dtap/Tdap, influenza, pneumococcal, hep b, meningococcal, and other vaccines? “For children who are severely immunocompromised or who are infected with HIV, DTP [Tdap, Dtap] vaccine is indicated in the same schedule and dose as for immunocompetent children [...].” “Because influenza may result in serious illness and complications for immunocompromised persons, vaccination is recommended.“ “Pneumococcal vaccine is also recommended for immunocompromised adults at increased risk of pneumococcal “ “
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] disease or its complications (e.g., persons with splenic dysfunction or anatomic asplenia, Hodgkin’s disease, leukemia, lymphoma, multiple myeloma, chronic renal failure, nephrotic syndrome, or conditions such as organ transplantation associated with immunosuppression). ” “Hepatitis B vaccine is also indicated for patients whose renal disease is likely to lead to dialysis or transplantation. [...] Periodic booster doses are usually necessary following successful immunization.” “Routine immunization with the quadrivalent [meningococcal] vaccine is recommended for certain high-risk groups.” “Other vaccines containing killed antigens […] do not pose a risk to immunocompromised persons and should be used for the same indications as for immunologically normal persons.” So now that we’ve clarified that unvaccinated individuals do NOT need to be vaccinated with any non-live vaccine or flu vaccine to protect the immunocompromised (since these individuals can receive vaccinations), what about live virus vaccines and those with HIV? “MMR vaccination is recommended for all children and for adults when otherwise indicated, regardless of their HIV status.” What about certain medical conditions like renal failure, diabetes, alcoholic cirrhosis, or asplenia, which may increase the patient’s risk for certain diseases? “Frequently, the immune response of these patients to these antigens is not as good as that of immunocompetent persons, and higher doses or more frequent boosters may be required. Persons with these conditions [...] should receive routine vaccinations with both live and inactivated vaccines according to the usual schedules.” What about varicella vaccine and those with cancer? According to the CDC, the only people who shouldn’t get this vaccine are those who are severely ill at the time the shot is administered, pregnant women, and “ “
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] those with a history of allergic reaction to the vaccine. People who have cancer, HIV, or severe immune system conditions should check with their physician. And what if an immunocompromised person (including one who wasn’t able to get vaccinated) is exposed to varicella or measles from an unvaccinated OR vaccinated person? For measles, one could get the IG (immunoglobulin). For varicella they could receive a varicella-zoster immune globulin (VZIG), and for hepatitis B one could receive a Hepatitis B immune globulin (HBIG).  Did anyone even read this before they swapped one flawed argument for another? Let’s see, I’m supposed to subject my child to the hazards of 49 doses of 14 vaccines before age six to potentially protect a vastly smaller population of people (who are deemed more important) even though they can receive all non-active vaccines, can almost always receive live vaccines (or have been vaccinated prior to the condition), and have the option of using an immunoglobulin post-exposure? I am sure there are a few individuals who want to be vaccinated and can’t (though I argue that most people who have medical exemption to vaccines want them) but is it ethical to subject the entire U.S population to the risks of a biologically invasive vaccine or a healthy infant who poses no threat of contracting a deadly disease to the possible adverse reactions of a vaccine? And what if everyone is vaccinated – how do you know if the vaccine was effective at inducing immunity or when it wears off? Will there be daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly titers checks? Even if one has titers they can still get the “vaccine preventable disease” and spread it, what then? Will adults have boosters too? How will we protect those unable to get vaccines from people shedding live vaccine viruses? How can we tell whose an asymptomatic reservoir for whooping cough? Where’s the recourse for those who would be injured as a result of this mass vaccination insanity? Is a physician willing to take legal responsibility in the event a vaccine injury occurs? Until there is a comprehensive study comparing the health of unvaccinated children with vaccinated children, NOBODY should be requiring or recommending that anyone be vaccinated for the sake of “public health.” Almost a year ago bill H.R 1757 (a bill calling for such a study) was introduced and referred to the committee on “Energy and Commerce,” and it is still sitting there. Please stop telling people vaccine injuries are rare and brushing off
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] individuals who have suffered vaccine injuries. Vaccines are associated with serious adverse reactions like: Blood and lymphatic system disorders, immune system disorders, myocarditis, nervous system disorders, convulsions, seizures, encephalitis (brain swelling), facial palsy, skin disorders, sudden infant death (SIDS), death, meningitis, paralysis, anaphylactic shock, skin and tissue disorders, eczema, lower respiratory infections, cerebrovascular accident, transverse myelitis, Guillain-Barré syndrome, Bell’s palsy, aseptic meningitis, pneumonia, ringing in the ears, multiple sclerosis, myelitis including transverse myelitis, seizure, febrile seizure, peripheral neuropathy, herpes zoster, migraines, neurological syndromes, chronic arthritis, hearing loss, rheumatoid arthritis, vasculitis, neuropathy, and vaccine-strain versions of chicken pox, measles, mumps, polio, influenza, meningitis, yellow fever, and pertussis. For a list of other exciting (yet downplayed) reactions check out the package inserts here. To view the VAERS database where you will find more adverse reactions reported including deaths, click here. Everyone knows a vaccine-injured child. Conditions we consider “normal” like ear infections, food allergies, and eczema were unheard of in the days of our grandparents. Asthma, diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, autism, Crohn’s disease, epilepsy, brain encephalitis, developmental disorders, and neurological problems were also uncommon. So we traded in polio (which according to the CDC is asymptomatic in 95% of people who actually get it) for vaccine induced paralytic polio and cancer via contaminated Salk vaccines. We traded in chicken pox for shingles, anaphylaxis shock, and death; measles for brain encephalitis; and the minuscule chance an infant would get Hep b for rheumatoid arthritis and SIDS. Considering only a few hundred cases of measles are reported per year and only one child dies from measles approximately 8-10 years (if we’re going with the touted 1 in 1,000 number), wouldn’t it make sense to question the MMR vaccine which could cause Measles-Induced Neuroautistic Encephalophathy, seizures, coma, and death? I am not part of the “herd” and neither are you. Herd immunity was coined in 1933 by A.W Hedrich who observed measles outbreaks over the course of thirty years. What he discovered was that if 68% of the population had measles through the natural course of infection, the rest of the community (or herd) was protected. But you see, vaccines aren’t natural and they don’t provide life-time immunity, and even if they did 68% would be the number needed for herd immunity, not 95%. Your (and my) herd immunity was threatened
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] the minute vaccines came on the scene. “The “science” of vaccination attempts to secure immunity without going through the natural disease process. The vaccine-induced process, although not resembling a natural disease, is nevertheless still a disease process with its own risks. And it is not immunity we gain via vaccination but a puny surrogate of immunity. For this reason vaccination is neither a safe nor effective method of disease prevention.” – Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych PhD in immunology and author of “Vaccine Illusion.” “This high percentage of individuals having long-term immunity [to natural chicken pox] has been compromised by mass vaccination of children which provides at best 70 to 90% immunity that is temporary and of unknown duration—shifting chickenpox to a more vulnerable adult population where chickenpox carries 20 times more risk of death and 15 times more risk of hospitalization compared to children. Add to this the adverse effects of both the chickenpox and shingles vaccines as well as the potential for increased risk of shingles for an estimated 30 to 50 years among adults.” – Dr. Goldberg Ph.D also confirmed by a study in the New England Journal of Medicine.  Please stop assuming that all people who choose not to vaccinate do so “
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] because they’re “scared” a vaccine might cause autism. People choose not to vaccinate for any number of reasons including but not limited to, religious beliefs, lack of research and clinical efficacy, dangers and risks of vaccine additives, possible adverse reactions and the higher risk of an adverse reaction versus the disease, risk of vaccine contamination and viral shedding, belief in other methods of prevention, and lack of safety data surrounding the current (insane) vaccination schedule. And yes, some do not vaccinate because they fear that vaccines could contribute to or cause autism. Wait, vaccines don’t cause autism! Are you saying that because brain encephalitis isn’t a reaction on the vaccine inserts or because you were a victim of the “let’s say vaccines don’t cause autism so people will vaccinate their kids” propaganda? Oh I know, you reviewed the results of the comprehensive study that’s never been done comparing rates of autism in the unvaccinated versus vaccinated population. Those of us who believe there are safer and more effective ways to prevent disease are not conspiracy theorists, we just incorporated that little addendum to the germ theory that said “germs only live in environments conducive to growth.” A conspiracy theory is the belief in little green men who walk on Mars and are secretly controlling our every move via invisible puppet strings. What we’re all tired of, is people pretending the American Medical Association has been around since the beginning of time and that everything else is “new age, pseudoscience, and conspiracy theory.” I hate to point out the obvious but the AMA has only been around since 1847. Before that, there were homeopathic physicians/doctors (1789) homeopathic hospitals (1825), and the establishment of the American Institute of Homeopathy in (1841). Do you know what was around before all of that? Natural medicine – circa day 1 if you believe in God and circa day “the first time the ape-like human got a cut and put a leaf with spit on it instead of a band-aid and antibiotic” if you don’t. Hippocrates, the credited father of allopathic medicine practiced and advocated natural medicine – his motto was “do no harm.” So if you take beliefs from his ideology it’s “medicine” and if we take beliefs from his ideology it’s “quack-worthy?” If anything sounds like a “conspiracy theory” it’s the belief that the immune system requires the administration of a germ to protect itself from a germ.
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Dear parents, are you being lied to? A Parent’s Response to the New York Times’ Why You Should Question the Vaccine New Autism Study Raises More Questions About Just because one doesn’t vaccinate, doesn’t mean they’re “anti-medicine.” Medical advancement has brought us many things, some good, some not. I for one do not support vaccinations but that doesn’t mean I don’t support the advancement in treatment for these diseases should they (in rare case) be needed. Some of us simply believe there are other ways to prevent disease that do not require injecting a research and clinically ineffective substance that contains toxic additives, live viruses, and can cause a wide array of very serious side-effects into our children.  Take the HATE out of the debate. If you want to encourage people to vaccinate than by all means, utilize your freedoms to do so, but bullying, lying, misrepresenting facts, name-calling, downplaying, overlooking, and scoffing at vaccine injured children, finger-pointing, discriminating, crucifying physicians who speak out, and threatening individuals who wish not to vaccinate will not further your cause; it will only encourage people like me to speak out on behalf of those of us who have educated ourselves and are calling for more accountability and higher standards for our children.  Vaccination is and should always be a personal choice. Everyone should have the right to do their own research, formulate their own opinion, and come to a different conclusion if they feel its best. Every parent should have autonomy over their child’s healthcare. Most importantly children should not be used as pawns in a manipulative scheme to get parents to conform to what was once a noble idea and is now a hatefully notorious agenda. Photo Credit: The Holistic Doula  If you gained something from this article, please like it, share it, and follow livingwhole.org on Facebook. You might also like:
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Eliminate ... the Safety of ... Tweet 175 33k Like Like Linkwithin If you like it, share it! Filed Under: Parental Rights, Vaccinations Comments Lisa Morguess says April 19, 2014 at 1:58 am I just wrote about this very issue: http://www.lisamorguess.com/2014/04/16/need-th- change-way-talk-vaccines/ I guess those of us who choose not to vaccinate are finally getting sick of the rhetoric, fear-mongering and mud slinging. Thanks for an articulate, well thought out article – you said it far better than I did. Lisa Morguess recently posted…Post-IEP High Piotr Reysner says April 18, 2014 at 11:11 pm Here’s my problem — you say “Every parent should have autonomy over their Share 4 AQGQs00eoWJ1http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/likehttp://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.livingwhole.org%2Fthe-hate-debate%2F&send=false&layout=button_count&show_faces=false&action=like&colorscheme=light&fontAQGQs00eoWJ1http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/likehttp://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.livingwhole.org%2Fthe-hate-debate%2F&send=false&layout=button_count&show_faces=false&action=like&colorscheme=light&font
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] child’s healthcare”. NO! Absolutely not. Children lack their own legal voice. There are many, many, many parents that are flat-out dangerous and have no business raising children, let alone e allowed to make medical decisions for them. As a society, we have a responsibility to children to sometimes protect them from their own parents. Take for example a child who gets brutally beaten as a form of punishment. While this example is extreme, it certainly fairly disputes your statement that “every parent should have autonomy” to do anything. In fact, I know of one parent who withholds medical care from his kids as a form of punishment. Do we give him autonomy? I’m not saying that not vaccinating necessarily rises to this level. However, this certainly explains the very emotional response you perceive from those who are against “anti-vaxxers”. If you are putting children in harm’s way then you certainly have no right to ask people to just be nice to you or to even respect your decision. Personally, I agree that not vaccinating your children is de facto abuse. I think it’s irresponsible and is bad parenting. I won’t beat you over the head with it primarily because I know you won’t listen. Thus, my recourse is with our government, which I hope will put a stop to any parent who refuses to vaccinate their child. Megan says April 19, 2014 at 7:04 am The legal voice for a child is their parent, not the government. A proper diet prevents disease and a poor diet can make a child more susceptible to disease – Is it child abuse to feed your kids McDonald’s every day? How would you feel if the government mandated a raw foods diet and told you what you could and could not feed your kids? Doctors used to feel that milk powder and karo syrup was superior to breast milk…what if they had mandated that? Today breast milk is best, what if they mandated that and forced women to breastfeed their babies for 2 years to fall in line with WHO guidelines? Should the government dictate all medical decisions? Where do you draw the line? And what about adults, in order to ensure herd immunity adults would be required to be vaccinated with boosters every few years for essentially all vaccines – how does your logic apply to them? Do they not have autonomy over their bodies and are they not qualified to exercise their legal voice? Since
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] vaccination is not synonymous with immunization, how would you know if the vaccine worked? Would you recommend having daily/weekly/monthly/yearly titers checked? How much is too much when it comes to heavy metals and harmful additives? As was established above, essentially all of the population can be vaccinated (save a select few who are so immunocompromised they can’t be around the vaccinated either). Is it ethical to require all people to be vaccinated with a biologically invasive vaccine that is neither clinically or research effective? One might argue that this too is child abuse. Who is going to compensate the parents for the adverse reactions of a vaccine…because there are adverse reactions. I think this is an emotionally charged issue on the anti-vaccine side because vaccines carry great risk and little (if any) perceived benefits. How do you know if a mandatory mass vaccination program is safe? There’s no comprehensive study done in the United States comparing the health of the unvaccinated with the vaccinated? Vaccination is a personal choice that should and must be left up to every parent. These are children who are loved, healthy, with good homes, and educated parents; to compare them to children who are physically beaten, brutally punished, and emotionally abused seems a bit extreme don’t you think? Respectfully, Megan Janna says April 20, 2014 at 7:25 pm Doctors are now using this kind of logic to take children away, in a gross misuse of your philosophy. See Justina Pelletier case. Conversely, will the government accept any culpability in the rise of autism, adverse events?
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Julie says April 20, 2014 at 7:33 pm NO. If a parent is “brutally beating” a child or neglecting a child to the point of it being abuse you take away the autonomy of that parent until they can be schooled in the proper way to raise a child or until they decide it’s not worth the fight and the child is placed with a responsible family. You do not however, punish every parent out there by taking away all parents’ autonomy because of few screwed up head cases. That is illogical and irresponsible. Your argument is flawed. LL says April 18, 2014 at 9:25 pm I will add one more link to the discussion. I have seen much brouhaha about the OSU outbreak. As it spread, this information came out. 27/28 mumps sufferers on that campus were vaccinated. That is a 96.4% vaccination rate for those that caught it. For those who go on and on about herd immunity, as I linked on the Fordham case, that was 12/12 vaccination rate. At what point do you ask yourself if “herd immunity” is a real thing? I vaccinated my kids until my son’s reaction to the MMR, so I am not an anti-vaxxer. Like others have stated, I am a pro-choicer on this issue. It is the parents right to determine what is the best for their own kids. I find it interesting that a few commenters here have said you don’t have the right to put their kids in danger by not vaccinating your children, but they seem to be ok with the idea of you putting your kids in danger of the vaccine because they deem the risk small enough to be dismissed. What hubris. Janna says
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] April 18, 2014 at 4:31 pm Great article. I think many people- older persons, those with no children do not realize just how complex the issue is now. I mean, they probably just think ‘get the damned measles shot.’ The reality is much more complex, though. Parents must get 5 in 1′s now that have more problems associated with them and just too many shots for “dire, dreaded” diseases. I swear they are adding new ones to the schedule weekly. Parents are really at a breaking point on this issue, I think. I think people are very leery of the fact that the epidemiological studies are biased, poor (Cochrane) and there is a real lack of physiological studies that back vaccine safety. Oh, and why can’t they explain what is causing autism- something that is many, many times more common now than polio? Christine Makasoff says April 18, 2014 at 4:38 am Polio and small pox used to kill many people. Vaccines are a medical breakthrough that has eradicated many diseases. Do you really think your children would have been safer in 1900? Check the child death rate back then against today in regard to today’s preventable diseases. What parent would want to subject their child to polio? Danchi says April 18, 2014 at 8:33 pm Polio Vaccine did not stop Polio. The polio death rate was decreasing on its own before the vaccine was introduced, and there is no credible scientific evidence that the vaccine caused polio to disappear. Cases of polio increased after mass inoculations. The US and Europe Polio rates had abated to 47% & 55% respectively before the Salk Vaccine. Europe never purchased the Polio Vaccine and Polio abated completely on its own. Distribution and administration
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] of the Polio vaccine in the US caused Polio cases to rise 700%. I called the Polio Vaccine the Salk Vaccine because it was not the first. There has been more than one type of polio vaccine through its history, due to the fact that earlier versions were found to be ineffective and harmful. MV Polio Strain Escape From Rockefeller Labs The first real spike (1916) in polio occurred in a New York City population in the same area where Rockefeller Labs conducted work in creating polio-virus. This conclusion was documented by Wyatt et al in “The Open Vaccine Journal” stating; However it is a remarkable coincidence that a unique neurotropic strain of poliovirus was developed a few miles from an epidemic caused by a uniquely pathogenic strain of the virus. My theory would not be proved even if it could be shown that a Rockefeller worker had lived in Brooklyn. Nevertheless such an extraordinary epidemic requires an extraordinary explanation: it is the only suggestion to be offered so far. Correct or not, it provides a powerful message for everyone who works with pathogens (Wyatt, H., 2011). Polio Vaccine The polio vaccines marketed to the population were called Salk and Sabin. Albert Sabin created the oral polio vaccine (OPV) in 1957, which contained the live polio virus and was licensed in 1961. Jonas Salk created the inactivated polio virus vaccine (IPV), which was made with the killed-virus and licensed in 1955. Actually Jonas Salk didn’t created the first Polio Vaccine. The actual developer was a Doctor named: Dr. Bennett. Dr. Jonas Salk never developed his vaccine at all. He had the idea, but did none of the work. Dr. Bennett, who used to work with Dr. Jo Smadel at Walter Reed, left there because Jonas Salk, who was a Professor at the University of Pittsburgh, offered him a job of joining him in making the first successful polio vaccine. His idea for the vaccine was simple but extreme; to just grow the virus, and inactivate it with formalin. This by the way was the same idea that he had for the AIDS vaccine. Dr Bennett did all the work and the theory had a fatal flaw. Formalin doesn’t inactivate in a straight line, but Salk thought it did. Right from the start, the media, the politicians, etc, acclaimed Salk as the Savoir and he took all the credit for work he had never done. He refused to acknowledge that Dr. Bennett had made the vaccine, not him, which led to a nasty feud and
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Dr. Bennett committed suicide. You won’t find much on Dr. Bennett in the Polio historical literature. Not even on Wikipedia. You know why? Because the pharmaceutical Industry wrote the History of Poliomyelitis. Basically, the History of Polio was written by The Rockefeller Foundation who started the AMA and most medical schools in this country. These are the people involved in the development of the Polio Vaccine: William Welch, Simon Flexner, Karl Landsteiner, Tom Rivers, Thomas Francis, Henry Kumm, Jonas Salk, Albert Sabin, Hilary Koprowski, and Oveta Culp Hobby were all tied to the Rockefellers in some fashion. You see the vaccine wasn’t about health intervention or prevention-it was and still is about money and social control. In 1955 Time Magazine wrote of the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis blowing the danger of polio out of proportion. But why would anyone blow out of proportion something as serious as polio? Here is a snippet from that article: “All week the air was full of brickbats for Secretary Hobby and her department, although President Eisenhower defended her (see NATIONAL AFFAIRS). In retrospect, a good deal of the blame for the vaccine snafu also went to the National foundation (for Infantile Paralysis), which, with years of publicity, had built up the danger of polio out of all proportion to its actual incidence, and had rushed into vaccinations this year with patently insufficient preparation.” emphasis added Medicine: Vaccine Snafu. Monday, May 30, 1955http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,866421- 2,00.html#ixzz0lwMucUsM Vaccine was created after much publicity in 1955. Salk vaccinations began in the U.S. in April 1955. Only two months into the Salk campaign, the U.S. Public Health Service, on June 23, 1955, announced that there had been 168 confirmed cases of poliomyelitis among the vaccinated with six deaths. The News Chronicle of May 6, 1955, reported: “The interval between the inoculation and the first sign of paralysis ranged from 5 to 20 days and in a large proportion of cases it started in the limb on which the injection had been given. Another feature of the tragedy was that the numbers developing polio were far greater than would have been expected had no inoculations been given. In fact, in the state of Idaho, according to a
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] statement by Dr. Carl Eklund, one of the government’s chief virus authorities, polio struck only vaccinated children in areas where there had been no cases of polio since the preceding autumn; in 9 out of 10 cases the paralysis occurred in the arms in which the vaccine had been injected.” In June, 1955, James C. Spaulding, a staff writer for the Milwaukee Journal covered an American Medical Association convention. Here is what Spaulding learned and reported on June 19, 1955: “A policy of secrecy and deception has been followed by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis and the U.S. Public Health Service in the polio vaccine programs. As a result the nation’s physicians were prevented from learning vital information about the trouble in making and testing Salk vaccine… The secrecy and deception started before the field trials.” In 1954 with the Francis Field Trials they discovered large numbers of children contracted polio after receiving the vaccine. Instead of removing the vaccine from the market, they decided to exclude from the statistics all cases of polio that occurred within 30 days after vaccination on the pretext that such cases were “pre-existing”. The trial was part medical and part public relations. Word was beginning to get out that the Polio Vaccine was causing Polio. The 1955, Journal of American Statistical Assn 50: 1005- 1013, stated of the Francis report: 59% of the trial was worthless because of lack of adequate controls. The remaining 41% may have been alright, but contains internal evidence of bias in favour of the vaccinated. According to the Daily Telegraph (June 18, 1955) Mr. Peterson, State Health Director of Idaho, stopped further inoculations and stated: “We have lost confidence in the Salk Vaccine.” He also stated that he “holds the vaccine, together with the instructions for its manufacture, directly responsible for the outbreak of polio and the deaths that had occurred.” Idaho stopped Salk inoculations completely on July 1, 1955, with this blast from State Health Director Peterson said, “I hold Salk vaccine and its manufacturers responsible for a polio outbreak that has killed 7 Idahoans and hospitalized 79.” By September 14th 1955, that state had 190 cases compared with 132 for the entire year of 1954. Newark, N.J. stopped inoculations in June, 1955, while Utah took similar action on July 12. An Associated Press Dispatch from Boston on August 30, 1955, reported 2,027
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] cases of polio in Massachusetts against 273 the same time the previous year- representing an increase of 743%. This followed the inoculation of 130,000 Massachusetts children, and the authorities banned the vaccine. Connecticut reported 276 cases in 1955, up from 144 in 1954;Vermont, 55 up from 15; Rhode Island, 122 up from 22, and Maine, 74 up from 43. The Washington D.C. Star, September 20, 1955, reported 180 cases in Washington against 136 the same time in 1954; Maryland’s Health Department reported 189 in 1955 to 134 in 1954; New York State, 764 to 469; Wisconsin, 1655 to 326. The Milwaukee Journal, on August 30, 1955, reported that the city’s schools closed indefinitely because of the polio outbreak, following inoculation with the Salk vaccine. An Associated Press dispatch on November 11, 1955, quoted Dr. Herbert Ratner, Health Commissioner of Oak Park, Illinois, who said that “English authorities in July, 1955, canceled the Salk vaccine programs as ‘too dangerous’, and all European countries, with the exception of Denmark, have discontinued their programs.” Canada also postponed its Salk vaccine program on July 29, 1955. The New York Times on May 11, 1956, reported on Supplement No. 15 of the Poliomyelitis Surveillance Report for the year which showed 12% more paralysis in 1956 than in 1955. By January 1, 1957, 17 states had rejected their supplies of Jonas Salk’s “anti-paralytic” polio vaccine. During this year very nearly half the paralytic cases and three-quarters of the non-paralytic cases in children between the ages of 5 and 14 years occurred in “vaccinated” children. The Expert Committee on Poliomyelitis of the World Health Organization stated in its Technical Report Series, No. 145 (Second Report, p. 34 Geneva, 1958) that: “It was noted in the Union of South Africa and in the USA, especially in the course of severe outbreaks in Hawaii and Chicago, that vaccination in the face of an epidemic did not appear to shorten its course. Laboratory and field studies have shown that vaccination does not prevent infection or interfere with dissemination of virus in the community.” Hawaii had an outbreak of polio in 1958. The Honolulu Advertiser on July 15, 1958, carried a statement by Dr. Enright of the Territorial Dept. of Health which broke down the figures as follows: “Of the 32 discovered paralytic polio cases
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] so far this year, six had 3 Salk shots, six had 2 shots, four had one shot, the rest, none.” Percentage vaccinated: 50%. The Chicago Daily News, May 28, 1959, printed the following UPI dispatch from Duluth, MN-”One of the developers of the new oral (polio) vaccine said Wednesday the recent use of Salk vaccine in Israel had ‘little if any effect.’ Dr. Herald R. Cox of Lederle Laboratories, suggested the ineffectiveness of Salk inoculations during a round table discussion at the Minnesota State Medical Association convention. Cox said a confidential report on a polio epidemic showed 90% of children under six years old in Israel were given Salk shots. But the outbreak became epidemic. It is evident that the vaccine failed,” Cox said. - It was at this point the CDC changed the diagnostic criteria for Polio; In 1958, the CDC formally adopted the “Best available paralytic poliomyelitis case count” or BAPPCC: “Cases must be clinically and epidemiologically compatible with poliomyelitis, must have resulted in paralysis, and must have a residual neurological deficit 60 days after onset of initial symptoms. .. the BAPPCC does not include cases of nonparalytic poliomyelitis, of those in which paralysis is more transient. The original purpose of developing these criteria was to omit cases possibly due to enteroviruses other than polioviruses.” People who showed polio like symptoms that previously would have been diagnosed as Polio were now being diagnosed as: Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP), Transverse Myelitis, Viral or Aseptic Meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic Syndrome, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Epidemic Cholera, Cholera Morbus, Spinal Meningitis, Spinal Apolexy, Inhibitory Palsy, Intermittent Fever, Famine Fever, Worm Fever, Bilious Remittent Fever, Ergotis, ME, Post-Polio Syndrome aka GBS. Coxsackie virus and echo viruses can cause paralytic syndromes that are clinically indistinguishable from paralytic poliomyelitis. Polio is more than paralysis or being encased in an iron lung. The question is always asked what happened to the iron lungs? Doesn’t that prove Polio has been eradicated/cured. No, it doesn’t. The iron lungs were replaced by oxygen tents and than respirators. So if one contracts one of the above illness and has breathing difficulties-you’ll likely to be put on a respirator or the little oxygen nose plugs. Today, If you object to taking the polio vaccine and you get polio–it is usually called “polio.” If you have been vaccinated and you get “polio”, it is
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] called meningitis or one of the other names. Polio cases rose about 300 to 400% in these 5 places that made the Salk vaccine compulsory by law: -North Carolina: 78 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 313 cases in 1959. -Connecticut: 45 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 123 cases in 1959. -Tennessee: 119 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 386 cases in 1959. -Ohio: 17 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 52 cases in 1959. -Los Angeles: 89 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 190 cases in 1959. By 1960, the Salk vaccine had proven to be so hazardous and ineffective, that the Journal of the American Medical Association (February 25, 1961) carried an article admitting that, “It is now generally recognized that much of the Salk vaccine used in the U.S. has been worthless.” In his statement submitted to the House of Representatives Sub-Committee on Health and Environment, 94th Congress, Dr. Thomas E. Baynes (Assistant Professor of Law at Nova University Law Center, Fort Lauderdale, FL, under a contract with HEW, CDC, No. 39204) reported to our elected officials that: ” In 1949, a polio vaccine was only a dream.now that dream has turned into a nightmare. The extent of litigation from vaccine injuries in humans had been minimal until the advent of the Salk and Sabin vaccines .Resultant litigation from vaccine injuries will require a reevaluation of current efforts to immunize vast numbers of people from communicable diseases.” “In about 95 percent of polio cases, infection from the polio virus causes no symptoms or serious effects. In about 5 percent of cases, the polio virus manifests in a mild form (abortive polio) with flu-like symptoms, in a non- paralytic form (aseptic meningitis) or in a severe form called paralytic polio. People who have minor or non-paralytic forms recover completely. …” Before the polio vaccine, there was very little viral polio. There was paralysis, but its cause was not a polio virus but DDT pesticide poisoning. The chemical that likely poisoned FDR while swimming in a lake in upstate NY. Where DDT was produced, you also saw that it was exactly the region where the epidemic was. DDT was banned at the same time the polio vaccine was introduced, making the vaccine seem as though it were the cure of the disease. With the introduction of the OPV we created the most crippling viral polio ever. This tells
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] the story. Statement On Clinical Intoxication From DDT And Other New Insecticides: http://www.whale.to/a/biskin.html, The Poison Cause of Poliomyelitis And Obstructions To Its Investigation, http://www.whale.to/a/scobey2.html,COMMON (CHEMICAL) POISONS THAT CAUSE POLIO Eleanor McBean: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio3.html, Pesticides and Polio: A Critique of Scientific Literature: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/west5a.html Provocation poliomyelitis: Wyatt 1981, Bulletin of the History of Medicine, 55:543-557. This discusses the many scientists from 1914-1950 who observed the phenomenon that injections can cause outbreaks of polio. Most of these papers observed that paralysis correlated to the limb that was injected and then spread from there. By 1956 and until the Sabin vaccine was used, doctors who tested every single batch of the vaccine for the FDA (then the DBS) found every single batch, not just the Cutter batch, was live. The vaccine was consistently paralyzing the monkeys, with every batch. When things were going good for Salks, he took the credit but when the vaccine was shown to be a failure he blamed first the Cutter Lab that created the vaccine from the formula he provided and when that didn’t fly he blamed Dr. Bennett who had committed suicide. Time Magazine, January 19, 1959 reporting on the “Scientific Symposium on Poliomyelitis Vaccine’ held at University of Michigan School of Public Health stated that much of the material used in about 200 million United States inoculation “has been no good”. Dr. Salk’s response to that (Medical News Page 2, January 28 1959) was to say that the failure of his vaccine to date was due to “individually defective immuno-mechanisms, a non-bloodstream route of virus spread, or waning immunity.” In 1958, Dr. Bernice Eddy noticed that there was something in the Salk vaccine which was having some nasty effects on all her laboratory animals, and caused vacuolation in culture medium. She became very concerned about what that virus did with the immune systems of animals. They knew by this time, that many monkey viruses had been found in the Salk vaccine, and they were also just starting to look into
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] another called Mason Pfizer Monkey virus (which causes AIDS in macaque monkeys which it does not originate from). Although she did not know it at the time, the principle virus she was seeing was the effects of SV40. Bernice Eddy was working with certain batch numbers of the vaccine, which caused greater problems, than other batches. One doctor in Illinois was getting very worried about the Salk vaccine. He took it upon himself to keep some of those batches under correct storage, and for long term storage. What concerned him was that certain batches of the vaccine were causing clusters of leukemia. It turned out that these batches of the vaccine were the same batches as the ones Bernice Eddy was worried about. What Dr. Bernice E. Eddy found was that the (Salk) vaccine made by the Cutter labs had been improperly inactivated, and that the polio vaccine was contaminated with a cancer causing animal virus–SV40.] She discovered that when she injected hamsters with the kidney mixture on which the vaccine was cultured, they developed tumors. Eddy’s superiors tried to keep the discovery quiet, but Eddy presented her data at a cancer conference in New York. She was eventually demoted, and lost her laboratory. [2000] The Virus and the Vaccine by Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher Also: [Book extract. The Health Century] Dr. Bernice E. Eddy, whose lab tests found that the Cutter vaccine had been improperly inactivated:PBS. October of 1960 Eddy gave a talk at the New York meeting of the Cancer Society and told them that because of the virus found in the vaccine there would be an explosion of cancer in 30 years. This timeline coincides with the explosion of soft tissue cancers beginning in the 1970′s and continues to this date. Research Bernice Eddy, SV-40 & Maurice Hilleman. Changing the diagnostic criteria for Polio from being paralyzed for only 72 hours to being paralyzed fro 60 days gave the impression that vaccine was working: -During the 1962 Congressional Hearings on HR 10541, Dr. Bernard Greenberg, head of the Department of Biostatistics of the University of North Carolina School of Public Health, testified that not only did polio increase substantially (50 percent from 1957 to 1958 and 80 percent from 1958 to 1959) after the introduction of mass and frequently compulsory immunization programs, but statistics were manipulated and statements made by the Public Health Service to give the opposite impression.
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Suppressed reports condemning the Salk vaccine by technicians at the National Institutes of Health, was reported in, The Drug Story by Morris Bealle. Among the stories carried in this book is the one that James A.Shannon, M.D., of the National Institutes of Health in Washington, D.C.,knew about the reports from the Institute’s technicians in 1955, that”Salk vaccine was a killer and totally ineffective as a preventative.” As a result of these reports of the Institutes Technicians, no official of the NIH would permit the vaccination of their own children with the Salk vaccine. Word of this leaked out when Robert S. Allen, Washington correspondent, reported in the New York Post, June 8, 1955, that “Doctors and others on the staff of the National Institute of Health are not inoculating their own children with the Salk Vaccine.” “Nevertheless,” says Mr. Bealle, “on orders from higher-ups in the U.S. Public Health Service, they kept quiet and let hundreds of unfortunate children be killed and thousands maimed for life.” -Orthopedic Surgeon Dr. Alton Ochsner, a stockholder in the Salk vaccine & one of the most prominent doctors in New Orleans wanted to prove to the world that the vaccine was safe, this was after people had developed polio from it, that he held a news conference & inoculated his own grandchildren with it. Ochsner’s grandson died. His granddaughter contracted polio but survived. Ochsner’s was heavily financially involved in the development of the vaccine. ***BULBAR POLIO KILLS DOCTOR’S GRANDSON : http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htmlres=F30D11F8385E107B93C7A9178ED85F418 “In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 “Abstracts” – Control of influenza and poliomyelitis with killed virus vaccines) sciencemag.com and a very small embedded article in the Washington Post on September 24, 1976 The United States Center for Disease Control (CDC) admitted that the vaccine has become the dominant cause of polio in the US today, with 87% of cases between 1973 and 1983 caused by the vaccine. More recently, 1980-1989, every case of polio in the US was caused by the vaccine. Doctors and scientists on the staff of the National Institute of Health during the 1950′s were
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] well aware that the Salk vaccine was ineffective and deadly. Some frankly stated that it was “worthless as a preventative and dangerous to take”. The Salk “inactivated” or “killed-virus” was actually regulated to permit 5,000 live viruses per million doses. Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics child health safety website-107 pages of historical data. -Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio Writes extensive about the history of the Polio vaccine -The Polio Myth at Spark of Light website by Janine Roberts-medical investigative reporter and her films on human rights issues won a Nomination for Best Documentaries, various film festival awards, and been on the BBC, the ABC, Channel 4 and WGBH (PBS network) across the Australia, US and Canada. Her book-Fear of the Invisible can be found on Amazon. -The CDC has removed from all Medical Schools and has blocked all public access to The Polio Surveillance Units between the years 1955-1970. They will be listed as missing. Even in other countries people have discovered them “missing” in medical school libraries. There is one place you can see them, and that is in the United States American Medical Association Library. The only snag is that you have to have top security clearance to see them, according to someone who tried to access them. The only reason that would be is the Salk Polio Vaccine showed zero efficiency and the government doesn’t want people to find out. There are several Doctors who posted copies online that keep disappearing. These Doctors were there and remember that the vaccine was a disaster because it caused polio. Harrison’s Principles of Internal Medicine , 6th edition, p. 943: “RARELY IS PREVENTION OF INFECTION PER SE CONSIDERED TO BE AN IMPORTANT GOAL OF VACCINATION. In fact, asymptomatic infection after vaccination can serve to enhance and prolong the immune response.” Of course, if the immune response has been overwhelmed or corrupted, the “asymptomatic infection” will become a CHRONIC DISEASE. In fact, on the same page of Harrison’s, in the following paragraph, it states the following: “PERSISTENCE AND LATENCY. Many viruses persist in host tissues for months or years without causing overt disease. A FLARE-UP OF THESE LATENT INFECTIONS MAY BE INDUCED BY TRAUMA, INTERCURRENT
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] DISEASE, DECLINE IN ANTIBODY TITERS, OR UNKNOWN STIMULI. Experiments with tissue cultures and laboratory animals reveal that persistence of virus in tissue results from an interplay of various factors peculiar to each virus and its host. LATENCY IS PROMOTED BY THE PRESENCE OF ANTIBODY OR OTHER VIRAL INHIBITORS THAT PREVENT EXTENSIVE CELL-TO-CELL SPREAD OF VIRUS. IF ANTIBODY IS WITHDRAWN, VIRAL MULTIPLICATION OFTEN RESUMES, WITH CONCOMITANT CELLULAR NECROSIS.” In the same (6th) Edition of Harrison’s Principles of Internal Medicine , it is stated on page 975 in regards to the poliomyelitis vaccine: “Vaccine virus multiplies in the intestinal tract and remains at this site. LIVE VACCINE VIRUS SPREADS AND INFECTS CONTACTS OF VACCINATED INDIVIDUALS. This type of immunization in the presence of epidemic poliomyelitis may lead to REPLACEMENT OF THE “WILD” PARALYTOGENIC STRAIN BY THE ONE IN THE VACCINE…..” In direct contradiction to this statement, the 1/1/2000 Vaccine Information statement put out by the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention National Immunization Program states that the “OPV (Oral Polio Vaccine) is better at keeping the disease from spreading to other people. However, it does state in this document that “OPV actually causes polio”. —————————————————— I discussion I read on Age of Autism in regards to Salk and the Oilio vaccine that I fond interesting. @Mark Struthers - Discussion why Salk was not elected to the National Academy of Sciences: “The reason is that he did not make any innovative scientific discovery”. Yeah, right. This is a lot of bull@#$%, obviously. He just invented the answer to a deadly epidemic. This is not “innovative” or “scientific” enough? Bahhaa… The more important sentence in my view is this: “Salk wasn’t elected to the National Academy of Sciences because he just wasn’t a very good scientist”. OK, this is revealing. It’s the tip of the iceberg. Salk wasn’t a good scientist. OK. I dig.
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] And what was the hallmark of his life work? The Salk polio vaccine. So this vaccine was the product of a “not-good-enough” scientist? It must have been a not-to-good vaccine, then… Interestingly, it was replaced 6-7 years after it was launched with another vaccine, wasn’t it? Hey, but didn’t this vaccine save millions? Didn’t it stop the dreadful polio epidemic right on its tracks? Posted by: Vaccine.Explorer | September 30, 2011 at 08:32 AM @Vaccine.Explorer I’ve got a copy of Paul Offit’s book, ‘The Cutter Incident’. I’ve copied a long paragraph (pages 129 -130) about Salk and his failure to get elected to the National Academy of Scienes. “Sabin’s attacks on Jonas Salk were tSalk or his work deserved special recognition. Polio researchers such as John Paul, Joseph Smadel, John Enders, Thomas Weller, Frederick Robbins, David Bodian, Albert Sabin, and Thomas Rivers were all elected to the National Academy of Sciences, a prestigious society for those who make important contributions to science. But Salk was never elected. Scientists and voting members of the academy claimed that Salk hadn’t done anything original. he most direct and the most personal, but many scientists didn’t believe that Thomas Rivers, when asked why Salk was never elected into the academy, said, “Original work! You don’t get into the Academy without [doing] original work! Just as you don’t get the Nobel Prize except for original work. Now, I’m not saying that Jonas wasn’t a damned good man, but there had been killed vaccines before. Lots of them. And formalin-killed ones at that. ” Thomas Weller, co-winner of the Nobel Prize with John Enders, said, “Salk wasn’t elected to the National Academy of Sciences because he just wasn’t a very good scientist.” Renato Dulbecco, winner of the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1975 for his work on viruses that cause cancer, wrote Salk’s obituary for the scientific journal Nature: “For his work on polio vaccine, Salk received every major recognition available in the world from the public and governments. But he received no recognition from the scientific world – he was not awarded the Nobel Prize, nor did he become a member of the US National Academy of Sciences. The reason is that he did not make any innovative scientific discovery.””
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Posted by: Mark Struthers | September 30, 2011 at 07:14 AM I have an interesting historic riddle for Dan, Mark and AoA readers: Jonas Salk, inventor of the polio vaccine that (allegedly) saved millions of lives in the US and around the world, was regarded as a demigod by the public in the 50s. The same Jonas Salk was never admitted to the National Academy of Science. (You could check this yourself in this link: http://nas.nasonline.org/site/Dir?sid=1021&view=basic&pg=srch Just enter Salk’s name and serach for him ) All of Salk’s comrades from the great polio battle-that-was-won were admitted to the NAS: Sabin, Flexner, Enders, Landsteiner, Thomas Francis, Charles Armstrong, David Bodian, John Paul, etc. But Salk wasn’t. How could that be and what does it tell us about the polio vaccine? ———————————————————————————————————————— Regardless of why polio is no longer seen as a major threat, the history of the polio vaccines is one of horrific consequences that few Americans know anything about. At the 11th hour, a bacteriologist at NIH was told to safety-test the new polio vaccine. Her name was Bernice Eddy. When she injected the vaccine into her monkeys, they fell paralyzed in their cages. Eddy realized that the virus in the vaccine was not dead as promised, but still alive and ready to multiply. It was time to sound the alarm. She sent pictures of the paralyzed monkeys to NIH’s management and warned them of the upcoming tragedy. A debate erupted in the corridors of power. Was the polio vaccine really ready? Should the mass inoculation proceed on schedule? A handful of prominent doctors across the country stepped into the fray to throw the weight of their reputations on the side of the vaccine. One of these doctors was Mary Sherman’s boss, Dr. Alton Ochsner. (Editor’s note: Mary Sherman is the Mary in the book title and Alton Ochsner was one of the most
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] prominent doctors in New Orleans where the secret monkey virus lab exposed by this book was located.) To demonstrate his conviction that the vaccine was really ready, Dr. Ochsner inoculated his own grandchildren with it. The mass inoculation proceeded on schedule. Within days, children fell sick from polio, some were crippled, some died. Estimates vary dramatically. (The truth will never be known–TV) Ochsner’s grandson died. His granddaughter contracted polio but survived. An enormous lawsuit erupted. Heads rolled everywhere. The Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare (Oveta Hobby) stepped down. The Director of the National Institute of Health (NIH), Dr. William Sebrell, resigned. It was the biggest fiasco in medical history. A second, safer vaccine developed by Albert Sabin was deployed. It used a weakened live virus instead of a dead virus. It worked. Polio was history; the future was safe–or so it seemed.” Polio is not eradicated. It is alive and well in the form of the aforementioned diseases. Every country that the Polio vaccine has been used has had a substantial increase in AFP. Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Syria-all have had increases in AFP. Not only increases in Polio, but increase in brain disorders because the vaccine industry and the WHO voted to not remove mercury from vaccines that went to third world counties. Smallpox has a similar mythical history. Both disease were declared eradicated by the WHO because it was at the point that they could not longer hide the fact that people continued to get the disease. Smallpox and Polio vaccines caused polio and smallpox. Since they were declared eradicated, people are no longer diagnosed with them. Polio like outbreak in California in children beginning last year-it’s classic polio but since polio doesn’t exist-they don’t know what to diagnosis the children with. Matt says April 19, 2014 at 4:34 am Whenever I see someone claiming that the polio rate was “going down on its own” (likely because we just got better at saving people), I link them this graph: http://www.drwile.com/lnkpages/pol_mease.jpg
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] Don’t be silly. The Polio vaccine is ENTIRELY responsible for that drop on the curve. Megan says April 19, 2014 at 6:47 pm Matt, that is a misleading chart. It looks at a very small segment of years and the decline looks much sharper than it actually was because of how the graph is skewed. If you looked at the actual mortality and prevalence charts (referenced in both of my prior posts from the United States Vital Statistics and MMWR) you would see that polio was on the decline BEFORE the vaccine came on the scene as was the case with measles. You’re also probably aware that the WHO reclassified polio after the vaccines was licensed which made it look like the vaccine was more successful than it was. I think if you’re going to make a statement that “the polio vaccine is entirely responsible for the drop on that curve” you should link to a credible source that accurately represents the curve. Janna says April 18, 2014 at 8:39 pm Conversely, lets get real- do you really think that medical advancements would not be better such that less deaths/complications would be happening? I’m sorry but hep b at birth is just stupid.
    • The Hate Debate - LivingWhole.org http://www.livingwhole.org/the-hate-debate/[4/23/2014 7:49:02 PM] « Older Comments Dawn Fitzgerald says April 18, 2014 at 3:43 am It is pertinent to point out that no-one has raised the subject of how the human body can naturally recover from these diseases when they occur, with or without being vaccinated. My husband and I have raised 3 children, never having to resort to a medical doctor or a drug or an antibiotic once, save for the time when our then 10 year old son cut his head open. We accepted a butterfly clip but no tetanus shot. No problem. All three have had natural measles but fasted when they were anorexic and recovered quickly and completely. None of them has been vaccinated. They have all had some minor sicknesses (the eldest is now 23) but have all fasted when sick and their bodies recovered beautifully. They have all had fevers but again have fasted and never needed any medication. Most people including doctors, natural therapists and antivaxers have little understanding of the true nature of health and disease. Disease is just as natural as health, it’s just not normal. The human body is self-developing, self- repairing and self- defending. These are axiomatic, self-evident truths. Have trust in yourselves. Emily says April 17, 2014 at 11:51 pm Thank you. I’m tired of it too. I just finished reading “What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children’s Vaccinations” and it sickened me. I’m tired of the pharmaceutical and government snow jobs for greed without concern for human life. I’ve shared your link on my timeline and in different groups.
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