Lilly’s famous “Stolen Fish” chart Feb 20, 1638 9:00 am Walton-on-Thames (51N24 0W25)Lilly famously saw that Jupiter in the 7th peregrine showed the thief. The Fish was ruler of the 2nd house Mercury in the 12th in Pisces (detriment/fall), Moon in Taurus will sextile Mercury in 3 degrees, showing the return of his fish, but also the corrupted state it would be in.The Moon exalted in angle also shows the return of the fish. The Sun trining Jupiter with reception, indicates that the thief will be revealed.Jupiter in Scorpio, 4th house cancer and Mercury in Pisces, Part of Fortune in Cancer shows the object to be somewhere close to water, Moon in Taurus, close to the ground.He described the thief as being a fisherman of Jupiter and Mars qualities…since Mars was at the end of his sign, the man was judge to be about to move, so Lilly inquired if their was any fisher man who had sold his land and was about to move. Through his description a particular fellow was identified, the authorities sent and the fish restored to Lilly, but it was half eaten.
MC and ASC ruler is Mercury, the universal significator of astrology who is conjunct the modern planet, Uranus that is associated with astrology. Venus as ruler of the 9th house is the accidental significator of astrology in this chart; she is dignified and with the great benefic Jupiter. The south node is in the 9th, something of the past (astrologically speaking). There is an mutually applying trine between Mars and Venus; Mars and Mercury disposit each other. The Moon in Libra (disposited by Venus aka astrology) in the 1st, the last aspect it made was an opposition to Mercury and it now applies to Saturn. Mercury ruler Mars = Me. This chart has North node conjunct my Sun.
Ptolemy in his defence of astrology set down a scientific explanation for it based on an Aristotelian understanding of the cosmos. He single handily enthroned Natal astrology and deposed horary the direct heir to Katarchic, or divination.
Adrian is the Moon, The house is Mars they come together by trine with reception (Moon being in the sign of Mars’s exaltation). He gets the house. The moon will sextile Uranus before, but in my experience the outer planets do not impede, because they do not signify anything or anyone. They do however bring a modifying or different quality to the matter. This Uranus connection with the Moon turns out to be very imporatnt.
Profit to be made from the house Venus is in Fall conjunct Saturn …the profit is bad, yet he got it for a good price (moneywise).Venus in Fall (unseen). Sun conjunct South node = money issues for Adrian. Mars conjunct Sophie’s natal Venus which rules her 6th house (11th house and Sun/Moon) Sophie experienced a depression in that house. Sophie is signified by Saturn in this chart, she is peregrine (lost and disconnected). Moon is detriment (disconnected)…The relationship could be signified by Venus (in fall…unseen, ignored). Moon is going to be VOC after her trine with Mars and before ingressing into a sign in which it is peregrine (Aquarius) and then coming into opposition with the Sun (and the Nodes) which is an impediment to it.There are no planets in angles and all are either cadent or in the 8th house signifying the death of something. It is the relationship that died.Moon is in detriment,
She is Saturn well and truly depressed in the 8th house and in a state of peregrine…Lost and disconnected.He is Moon in Saturn detriment (in the 12th having conjunct a fallen Jupiter) and after aspecting Mars will be VOC and become peregrine until his opposition to the Sun which is an impedement to the Moon. They moved in in December 2008 and broke up in Sept 2010. At that point Jupiter was at 27 degrees Pisces with Uranus opposite this charts Mars (the property)
The antiscion degrees show a shadow and here they hint at the break up. Nodes highlight the money issues that became part of what made Adrian so unhappy. When they broke up both Jupiter and Uranus were at 27 degrees of Pisces opposite MarsMoon on Sophie’s 3rd cusp.
Planetary Hour (and day) of the Moon. Exalts the ASC. Moon and VenusHarry is Mars exalted in 8th, last aspect to Uranus (great battle). Late degree rising…The story was already written, nothing I could do about it.
Harry = 7th house and ruler Mars, exalted in 8th.Allies = his 2nd so Jupiter (close to him, in their rulership, sure of themselves and where they stand, noble and true to themselves) and Saturn, being hidden allie, in 3rd (school) detriment and peregrine (corrupted and lost) retrograde coming back, ProffesorSnape perhaps. Jupiter is also Lord 8 = death and Mars and Jupiter are in antiscia and applying. Harry may appear to die.
LordVoldemort is opposite Harry so ASC and ruler Venus exalted in the MC. With his allies Mercury Fall, Detriment and Peregrine (Corrupted and not connected, unseen and lost) Venus next aspect square with Jupiter = death, Only Uranus could prohibit it, but it doesn’t. Death comes from one of Harry’s allies.
Last aspect of the Moon was conjunction with the Node, just after her Square with Jupiter (death and Harry allies), trine with Mars and opposition with Uranus. Clearly showing the great battle and death of Dumbledore as well as the final realisation of the fatedness of Harry’s position and the need to face Lord Voldemort.Moon is now VOC unless we take the applying square with Pluto.
Fixed stars:Ascella“nature of Jupiter and Mercury and gives good fortune & happiness”Bungula “the influence of Jupiter and Venus and gives benefience, friens, refinement and place of honour”Skat “nature of saturn and Jupiter and with Venus gives psychic, occult interests, friends among opposite sex, favorable for gain”.Alcyone“causes love, eminence, blindness and accident to the face”. The influence of the Pleiades are “distinsly evil and when rising are said to cause blindness, injuries to the eyes and face, disgrace, wounds, stabs, exile, imprisonment, sickness, violent lust and military preferment.”
Transcript of "What is horary astrology"
What is Horary Astrology?
What is Horary Astrology? “Horary is the branch of astrology in which we set up a chart for the time that a question takes shape, eitherseriously in the mind or put into words. The position of the planets at that moment will reveal the problem, its background, and also its final outcome or answer.” Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson “Simplified Horary Astrology “ 1960 “Quite simply, horary astrology is the art of astrological divination. A question is posed; the astrologer erects a chart for the moment of the question, and then makes ajudgement as to the likely outcome of the matter enquired about.” Derek Appleby “Horary Astrology: the Art of Astrological Divination” 1985
What is Horary Astrology?With the development of horoscopic astrology in aboutthe 4th century BCE, the notion of casting a chart for thestart of an event or inception of an idea was born.• This spawned a branch of astrology the Greeks called Katarchic astrology meaning: “related to beginnings” or more specifically to the creation of a beginning.• This led to the use of many different types of charts most of which could be understood to have their root in a specific moment in time. This being a birth or “seed” moment. The horary chart is the only astrological chart that does not have an identifiable beginning or birth point.
What is Horary Astrology?• Natal chart: set for the birth of a child.• Event chart: set for the time when an event occurs or begins.• Decumbiture chart: set for when an individual first takes to their bed with the illness and used to diagnose, treat and trace the development of the disease.• Electional chart: a chart for an event still in the future. It is set for an astrologically chosen moment most suited to begin an event or enterprise.• Ingress chart: set for the ingress of the Sun into a cardinal sign, generally the Aries ingress. Used to make mundane predictions.• Consultation chart: a chart set for the beginning of an astrological consultation used to help unravel what is on a client’s mind. These are examples of charts that use the notion of a “seed” moment from which future events can be seen to unfold.
What is Horary Astrology?Horary astrology need to be understood within the context of astrological history.• The earliest evidence we have of the practice of horary astrology is from Dorotheus’s “Carmen Astrologicum”: 5th book, On Interrogations, written in 75 CE.• Vettius Valens (2nd century CE) makes some mention of horary charts in book VIII and IX of his Anthology.• Neither Ptolemy or Firmicus Maternus mention horary.• Horary was in common use by the Arabs as they followed Dorotheus more than Ptolemy or Firmicus.• The Arabs developed and refined the Hellenistic techniques and rules of astrology including those for horary.
What is Horary Astrology? With the reintroduced of Arabic astrology into Europe in the 12th Century, came horary whichproved very popular from the 12th through the 17th centuries.• The principle and rules of horary come from the work of 9th century Arab astrologer Sahl bin Bishr. He was the source for most medieval horary astrologers.• Guido Bonatti in the 13th Century wrote “The Book of Astronomy” which has an extensive section on Horary.• The high point for Horary astrology occurred in 17th century England when William Lilly wrote his classic “Christian Astrology”.
What is Horary Astrology? The 18th , 19th and 20th Centuries were not so kind to Horary, though it did continue to survive despite the negative backlash against it.• Horary does not figure in either of the two major astrological developments of the 20th century: cosmobiology and humanistic or archetypal astrology.• Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson wrote “Simplified Horary Astrology” in 1960. She used the outer planets giving them co-rulership of Scorpio, Aquarius and Pisces.• In 1990 Olivia Barclay wrote “Horary Astrology Rediscovered” a work inspired by her discovery of William Lilly’s work. She is responsible for the revival of horary astrology.
What is Horary Astrology?Horary astrology has often been denigrated by astrologers of the day and even today it is dismissed, ridiculed and scorned by many.• Ptolemy in his attempt to defend astrology from criticism, gave it a scientific and theoretical structure that removed any divinatory elements from the astrology he presents in his Tetrabiblos.• Jean-Baptiste Morin a contemporary of William Lilly wrote a book on Interrogation in which he spent 9 out of 11 chapters “proving” the falseness of this Arabic invention.• AJ Pearce said that it was: "The absurd and unwarrantable use made of the horary branch of astrology, in the Middle ages.” which was the blame for astrology’s reduced status by the 19th century
What is Horary Astrology? “Horary astrology, as practiced today, is the vilest rubbish imaginable, and not worthy of the name. Indeed, it is not astrology at all, but simply divination, for which purposegeomancy or card laying would answer just as well… IT ISTHE CURSE OF THE SCIENCE AND THE RUIN OF THE ASTROLOGER.” “It requires very little skill to become a successful Horary Astrologer, and it will very often happen that those whoshrink from the more abstruse study of natal Astrology may become experts in divination by the aid of horary figures.” Alan Leo, one of the most influential astrologers of the early 20th century.
What is Horary Astrology? Modern astrology was birthed out of Theosophical ideasand Jung psychology; it was synthesised and presented as a totally new type of astrology, which was different to traditional astrology and had left the old and archaic concepts behind.• Horary lacks any easily conceived “rational” or material basis.• Horary threatens any claim that astrology may have to being based in natural or psychological science and therefore taken seriously by the public.• Horary challenges the accepted paradigm on which we base most of our astrology; the idea of the birth or “seed” moment.• Horary highlights astrology’s roots in astral divination making it more akin to superstition than a serious study,
What is Horary Astrology?• Astrology, including modern astrology, is based on Ptolemy and his orthodox understanding of the cosmos which has its roots in the Aristotelian concept of Celestial Causation - that is the position and motion of the planets and stars cause things to be and event to happen.• Both the modern and the ancients had the notion that planets influence us and unless we make a concerted effort to use our reason, to become aware, or conscious of this influence, we will stay under planetary influence.This is basically a view of a Causal Universe, in which the Soul with effort is capable of rising above the causal influence of the star, but the body and Nature are at their mercy.
What is Horary Astrology?In contrast there is the Platonic/Hermetic inspired notion of Cosmic Sympathy – the position and motion of the planets and stars mirror the external and internal qualities of the moment.• This implies long chains of correspondences linking different celestial planets with certain places, plants, minerals, animals, human traits and moments in time.• The notion of a “Doctrine of Signature” comes out of the principle of Cosmic Sympathy.• Hermeticism takes this notion one step further and proposes that we can use or influence this cosmic sympathy in order to create a desired outcome; this is the basis of astrological magic.
What is Horary Astrology? The practice and success of horary interpretation challenges the concept of Celestial Causation and validates the idea of Cosmic Sympathy and astrological signification.• Whatever rational justification we can make for natal, mundane or event charts, falls apart when applied to horary charts.• The success of horary charts reveals to us the mystery of the connections of time, place, life and human soul in a way that other forms of astrology doesn’t.• Horary is best understood from the perspective of an ancient world view in which the mythic, scientific, spiritual, physical, cosmic, animal and human were inseparable. Horary Astrology reveals the sacred mystery of the moment and allows entry into the realm of magic.
What is Horary Astrology? Differences between Horary and Natal astrology• The astrologer is present in the horary chart: Generally a horary chart is drawn, not for when the question is first conceived, but for when the astrologer understands it.• The use and emphasis on accidental significators: In contrast with modern natal astrology’s reliance on natural significators.• The use of derived houses: signifying real people or concrete objects.• Considerations before judgement: as they provide possible clues to the matter in question. With time and experience we come to witness the mysterious process which connects the horary chart with the chart of the querent or some other related to the query.• Horary is unforgiving; you either get it right or you have made a mistake.
Adrian’s significator is the Moon, who applies to trineMars significator of the property, with reception.He gets the house. But will it profit him?
Adrian got the house; but he did not profited from his acquisition. Venus is also the ruler of the 5thhouse signifying my daughter, which is in Fall, in the 8th house and besieged between two malefics. The Moon’s sextileto Uranus begins to reveal itself
This chart connects with both Adrian’sand my daughter’s natal charts: His ASC aM XaQ HerMa the MC PaQ
There are alsohiddenantiscia connection.• The North Node’s antiscion degree falls on Adrian’s natal Uranus.• The antiscion of Jupiter falls on my daughter’s natal Uranus.• The antiscion of this chart’s Uranus falls on Adrian’s natal Mars.
• The Nodes are conjunct Adrian natal 2nd/8th cusps, money issues.• Communication issues, Jupiter in Fall in the 12th and Uranus in 3rd• When they broke up both Jupiter and Uranus were at 27 degrees of Pisces opposite Mars.
Harry is Mars exalted in thehouse of death, on the antiscion withJupiter, his allies, who are strong… Saturn alsosignifies his allies, is in detriment,retrograde & in the 3rd house.Professor Snapeat Hogwart’sperhaps?
Lord Voldemort is signified by Venus exalted on the MC. His allies areMercury and the Moon, both in bad shape.Saturn is on theantiscion of LV’s 12th house ofhidden enemies.
Moon’s last aspectwas a simultaneous dR, cQ and bT Showing the greatbattle and death of Dumbledore. Moon is now VOC Her next aspect being in Libra, analmost simultaneous eR, dQ and cN.
Death is signified bythe Lords of the 8th & turned 8th houses: Jupiter and Mercury.Neither make aspect Mars or the Moon. Harry does not die! But the antiscion between Mars andJupiter indicates thatHarry may appear to come under the shadow of death.
But the next aspect Venus, Lord Voldemort makes is a square to Jupiter, along with her conjunction to Uranus. Death receives him; the final blowcoming from one of Harry’s allies.
Fixed stars:Ascella on Mars andBungula on 7th cusp. Skat on Venus and Alcyone, one of thePleiades, on the ASC. The Pleiades were the 7 daughters of Atlas and Pleine, 6are visible, but the 7this not. She is the lost sister Merope, whohid her face in shame of having married a mortal.
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