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  • 1. Hamline University School of Law William Mitchell College of Law University of Minnesota Law School
  • 2. Introduction  Purpose Statement Research  Methods Findings  Tables of Comparison  Clinics  Interview Summaries Recommendations (ranking of schools)
  • 3. Prospective Law Students  Looking to attend a school in the metro area of Minneapolis and St. Paul Current law students who would like to transfer to the metro area Other Interested Parties
  • 4. H e r e it is !
  • 5.  Hamline University School of Law  William Mitchell College of Law  University of Minnesota Law School
  • 6. Choosing a graduate school is a difficult task  Requires research  Personal interviews  Requires more research Inadequate research = Inadequate decisions  You might enroll with a school that does not match your needs I will do the first few steps of research for you
  • 7. Present and explain each school’s rankings  From accredited news sources Personal interviews with students and advisors Research of each school’s websites  In other words, I’ll summarize the information presented into short, easy sentences  Present information objectively
  • 8. Help you study Take your LSAT Visit each campus Give you personal opinions
  • 9.  Browsed each school’s website  Determined criteria to compare each school  This information is given in a “student profile”  Example: LSAT score, GPA, bar passage rate, tuitino, etc.  Constructed a set of interview questions  Interviewed two advisers and four law students  Reviewed information and researched even more  Interviewing process helped give a better idea of criteria to use in evaluation of each school  Formulated a recommendation based on the pre- specified criteria
  • 10. Tuition LSAT score LSAT median GPA GPA Median Average class size Minnesota bar passage rate School ranking Student-to-faculty ratio *All criteria was used to compare schools objectively. Occasionally one school did not supply a given criteria.
  • 11. LSAT = Law School Admissions Test Tiers (huh?)  Tiers are separated by characteristics such as: bar passage rate, assessment scores by lawyers and judges, acceptance rate, employment rate for graduates, student-to-faculty ratio, etc.  Each characteristic is weighted differently  There are four tiers  The first tier contains the 105 highest ranked schools  Schools ranked after 105 are not given a ranking Matriculated class  This term refers to students who are currently enrolled into the law school Median = the middle score in a range  Range of 100-105  Median = 103
  • 12. LSAT 25-75 percentile  This statistic gives the two LSAT scores, or the range, that 50% of enrolled students achieved. The other 50% of the students in the class achieved a lesser or better score than the two given scores; the 50 percentile is split equally. 25% of the students scored lower than the lowest number given and 25% of the students scored higher than the highest number given. Example, please?  LSAT 25-75 percentile: 155-162  25% of the students achieved a LSAT score of less than 155  25% of the students achieved a LSAT score higher than 162  The rest of the students achieved scores within the range of 155-162
  • 13. S c ho T u it io n LS AT LS AT GPA GP A ol 2 5 -7 5 M e d ia M e d ia P e rc e n n H a m li $30,096 FT 152-158 n t ile 155 3.17-3.63 3.43 ne $21,670 PT W illia $15,325 FT 153-158 156 3.22-3.71 3.53 m $11,090 PT M it c h U of $21,900 163-167 166 3.29-3.82 3.61 e ll M Resident* $32,303 Non-res. *There is an extra fee of $5,740 for all law students at the University of Minnesota Law School. T fee includes health his insurance and a required student laptop that contains all programs necessary to succeed at the U niversity of Minnesota and technical support.
  • 14. S c ho o Av e ra g MN R a n k in S t u d e n t :F A p p lic a l e Bar g a c u lt y t io n C la s s Pas s a R a t io D e a d lin S iz e ge e Ra te H a m li 234 88.00% No 14.6:1 April 1 ne Ranking Tier 3 W illia 323 96.70% No No information May 1 m Ranking available M it c h Tier 4 e ll U o f M 233 97.89% 22nd 12:1 April 1 Tier 1
  • 15.  ChildAdvocacy  Education Law  Employment Discrimination  Mediation Health Law  Immigration Law  Innocence Project  Mediation  Small Business/Non-profit  State Public Defender  Student Director Trial Practice
  • 16.  Business Law Clinic  Civil Advocacy Clinic  Community Development Clinic  Criminal Appeals Clinic  Criminal Justice Clinic  Immigration Law Clinic  Intellectual Property Law Clinic  Law and Psychiatry Clinic (with the University of Minnesota Medical School)  Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners (LAMP) Clinic  LAMP/The Reentry Clinic  Legal Planning Clinic for Tax-Exempt Organizations
  • 17. Bankruptcy  Innocence Project Child Advocacy  Misdemeanor Defense Civil Practice  Misdemeanor Prosecution Consumer Protection  Multi-Disciplinary Business Criminal Appeals Law Domestic Assault  Public Interest Law Prosecution  Special Education Federal Housing  Tax Immigration  Worker’s Rights Indian Child Welfare William Mitchell
  • 18. I nterviews were done over email or over the phone.
  • 19. Three Students surveyed from William Mitchell College of Law (WMCL) One student surveyed from Cornell Law School   All students were in their first or second year Average class size: 85 students   Smaller writing classes range from 12-30 students   Balance of personal time with school work  Some students indicated that they had no personal time regardless of their first or second year  Students with part-time jobs indicated that they had difficulty with time management.   Hours of class work expected from students  Calculation: 1 class period = 3 hours outside of class  Average: 30-45 hours of studying per week
  • 20. Teaching methods utilized by professors  In order of most-used: lecture, Socratic Method, some discussion   Study individually or in groups?  WMCL  Both  Cornell  Individual studying is most common   Most challenging part of being a law student (in order of the most common challenge)  Balancing school work load with personal time  Not receiving feedback on performance until the end of the semester
  • 21. Other advice (in order of most commonly mentioned)  Be prepared to work hard  Work hard  Visit campuses to get a feel for the environment (since you will be spending a lot of time there)  Worry less about other people and worry more about what you can control  Research schools and the legal profession  Understand opportunities available  Understand economics (public interest law – go for public schools bc they will cost less. Other forms of law – private schools, tuition is more)  Make sure it is something you want to do
  • 22.  Whatkind of academic and career opportunities do you make available to your students while in school?  Nuts & Bolts Class: resumes, cover letters, networking, individual counseling  Career Exploration Classes: lawyers and alumni from the community come in to talk about what they do  Going to Work Classes: Students learn about the social norms in law firms and how to act and react to others once they get out into the working field  Post job openings through a network called “Simplicity”  Provide off campus interview programs for firms that are
  • 23.  What is the single biggest issue that students struggle with?  “Idea of wanting to be a lawyer”  Not many students come in with clear cut goals  40% of students “think they know what they want to do and have a GENERAL idea about their goals.”  Major issue: the amount of debt that students struggle with  What is the teaching style of professors at your school?  Old style: Socratic Method  U of M Law School doesn’t “use that so much anymore because it can either work really well or not work really well.”
  • 24.  Beyond achieving a good LSAT score, what other types of characteristics do law schools look for on an application?  Holistic review of every application (in order of importance)  Personal Statement  LSAT & GPA  Volunteer work  Leadership experiences  Letter of recommendation    Approximately how many hours per week are students expected to put towards school work?  For every hour of class, students should plan on studying two hours outside of class  First year students take 14 credits per semester
  • 25.  What is the most common question you receive from prospective students?  Scholarships (eligibility) and how to pay for education  Job opportunities that Hamline offers  If you could only give one piece of advice to prospective students, what would it be?   Learn to write well and be able to express yourself through writing and speaking  The application process at Hamline weighs most of its decision based on the personal statement which indicates that Hamline looks for students with strong writing skills  What is the single biggest issue that students struggle with? 
  • 26. Remember our criteria  Tuition  LSAT score  LSAT median  GPA  GPA Median  Average class size  Minnesota bar passage rate  School ranking  Student-to-faculty ratio
  • 27.  This means that they look primarily at your LSAT and GPA scores  Why does Hamline do their application process differently?  They focus on personal statements and writing abilities  Also focus on other extracurriculars
  • 28. Remember the bottom line: can you pass the bar?  Hamline had the lowest score  WMCL and the U of M were within 1.19% of each other  Regardless of ‘tier’ Think of extra opportunities  Clinics  Job Opportunities The “working hard” trend  WMCL and the U of M approximated 3 hours of homework for every hour of class  Hamline approximated 2 hours of homework for every hour of class  What does this say about the work ethic and challenges presented to students?
  • 29. 1. U n iv e r s it y o f M in n e s o t a L a w S c h o o l  W illia m M it c h e ll C o lle g e o f L a w  H a m lin e U n iv e r s it y S c h o o l o f La w
  • 30.  Determine which kind of law you would like to practice  Visit the campuses  Don’t be afraid to ask questions  Talk to advisers and current students  Take their advice  They have already been through the experience  Study for the LSAT