SlideShare a Scribd company logo
1 of 39
Download to read offline
The truth about
the Internet
Marcus Brown.
Head of Social Media at Booming
PROLOGUE

Web War I and the

Nuclear Winter

  I’m old. Properly old. I survived the dot.com crash of the 1990’s.
  I’m a veteran of Web War One. I’m your granddad telling you
  what is was like back then. It was grim. When the bubble burst
  and companies burnt their way through millions of dollars,
  everything and everyone around the internet fell into some sort
  strange slumber. It was like a nuclear winter. The new economy
  was dead. Everyone was waiting for a messiah.
PART ONE

The children of
the future.
 The messiah came. Actually, lots of them
 came and they were all bright and shiny.
 Everybody woke up again. The skies
 cleared, all was forgotten and we could all
 start to worship again.
What do we see?
So if we look at the sparkling “new” web, what do we see?
Have we learned from the mistakes of Web War One? Does it really
look and feel different now?
What yousee
   What you see.



AWESOME
Well, it still looks awesome. In fact, it looks a little bit more
awesome than it did back in the day. Look at all of these groovy
logos. We can even put these logos into infographics and
everything.
What you see



$ 50 Billion
What you see.
Well, nothing’s really changed here either. Still a lot of money
around. In fact, there’s even more money around these days.
The offices are bigger, so big that millionaire hipsters can ride
around them on scooters.
What you see
   What you see.



Unicorns           This is new, though. We never had
                   singing unicorns back in the 1990’s but
                   I suppose that’s progress. Yes, it must
                   be progress.
This hasn’t changed a bit. Every bright,
                   new thing is immediately seen as a mature
                   business. A couple of weeks after
                   something has been launched we behave
What you see
   What you see.   as if it has been around for years.




Mature Business
What we
should be seeing
is children
MySpace

            8 years old
                      myspace                 Myspace is an eight year old
                                              child who was once massively
                                              popular. Now nobody really
                                              wants to play with her
                                              anymore. Numerous fairy
                                              godparents have tried to
                                              cheer her up, sadly to no
                                              avail.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9493850@N08/4237028244/
Twitter is a cheeky five
                                             Twitter
                             5 years old
year old child that, quite
frankly, won’t shut up.
He is slightly annoying
and hyperactive. Sadly,
no one really knows
what to do with him,
least of all his parents.
                                            twitter




   http://www.flickr.com/photos/jilbean3/5522741049/
8 years old
                                xing                XING is an eight year
                                                    old foreign exchange
                                                    student from Germany.
                                                    People consider him a
                                                    dull child because he
                                                    finds socializing difficult.
                                                    Those who make an
                                                    effort with him discover
                                                    that he is, indeed, a
                                                    really dull child.




http://www.flickr.com/photos/jilbean3/5522741049/
Facebook
                7 years old
                           facebook                      The seven year old
                                                         Facebook is a child
                                                         who, for some bizarre
                                                         reason, is ridiculously
                                                         popular. Even though
                                                         he is obnoxious, steals
                                                         photos out of your
                                                         wallet and tells the
                                                         teacher where you’re
                                                         currently hiding, people
                                                         seem to love him. How
                                                         odd.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/caitees_photography/3103326811/
At only one year old the



1 year old
                                                    little baby groupon has
                                                    managed to amass an
                                                    awful lot of sweeties. It
                                                    would appear that, sadly,
                                                    those sweeties don’t
                                                    belong to him. That
                                        groupon     doesn’t stop the grown-
                                                    ups passing him around
                                                    and commenting on how
                                                    cute he is.




 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dabergs/4908779530/
2 years old
                        foursquare                 The two year old
                                                   foursquare knows
                                                   exactly what she wants
                                                   to be when she grows
                                                   up. At least she did two
                                                   minutes ago. No, she’s
                                                   changed her mind
                                                   again. No and again.
                                                   Oh, now she’s sulking
                                                   because nobody wants
                                                   to play with her
                                                   anymore.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dabergs/4908779530/
YouTube
                 6 years old
                   Everybody loves the six          youtube
                   year old YouTube.
                   Everybody, including
                   the six year old herself.
                   The thing is, everybody
                   has seemed to have
                   forgotten that she’s only
                   six, including the six
                   year old herself.




http://www.flickr.com/photos/emerycophoto/3423601630/
6 months old
                                           This cheeky little chap      instagram
                                           is a mere 6 months old
                                           but boy, has he got
                                           what it takes to go really
                                           far. At least that’s what
                                           his uncle and aunts
                                           think.




http://www.flickr.com/photos/sgilsdorf/2422177814/
2 weeks old
The two week old            google+
google+ doesn’t really
have a future – he is the
future, at least that’s
what his godparents
think. He’s got 10
million godparents. How
about that?
So this is our future

         ?
PART TWO

We are the
parents of
the future.
[…]recognizing that the child,
for the full and harmonious
development of his or her
personality, should grow up
in a family environment, in
an atmosphere of happiness,
                                           If we start to think of
love and understanding […]                 these bright new shiny
                                           things not in terms of
                                           mature businesses but
UN Convention of the rights of the child   for what (in age at
                                           least), they really are –
                                           children – then maybe
                                           they should have the
                                           same rights.
“Accept the children with
reverence, educate them with love,
      send them forth in freedom.”
                                Rudolf Steiner




                        That U.N. thing
                        reminded me of good
                        old Mr. Steiner.
So what we (that’s you
and me) should really
be like, are hippies. We
should be like hippie
Mums and Dads.




                           mum
                                 Google +
Evil Step Mother.
But hippie Mums and Dads we are not. We’re over zealous step-parents.
We’ve read books on parenting and we have high hopes for our children.
They’re going to go far. Really far and woe betide them if they don’t.
Projection



             Instead of letting these
             “children of the Internet”
             get on with growing up
             in the time it takes to
             grow and mature, we
             force them into doing
             things they’re not ready
             to do.
And when it
all goes
wrong.

              And when it all
              goes wrong we turn
              our backs, disown
              them and giggle at
              their misfortune.
PART THREE

Children of the
watch
our present
perverts their
future
My vision of the
future in 1979



            When I was eight
            my vision of the
            future was living on
            a moon base. We
            were going to get
            spaceships and
            everything.
My vision of the future in 1979




                         I thought, back
                         then, that in the
                         future we would
                         have cool suits and
                         great typography.

                         But we didn’t get
                         any of this.
What I got was
nothing but a
bloody search
engine.

And that pisses me
off.
Middle Aged Future
The future that we are seeing described to us now is nothing more than the lost
future of a bunch of middle aged men who didn’t get their jet packs, spaceships or
moon bases (not to mention the cool suits and great typography).
So the things we’re
seeing now are
merely extensions
of a future lost.
2 short paths
We can either
mourn a future that
never came and
squeeze it into
everything we do.
Or we can get down
on the floor and
play with it. We can
try to truly
understand what it
is in order to come
up with a future that
is try to its context.
The truth about
the Internet
Because the truth about the Internet is that it is the Peter Pan of the
media world. It, in stark contrast to us, never ever gets old.
Thank You.

This was originally presented as part of LHBS’ “Uncomfortable Talks”
series in Vienna.

More Related Content

Viewers also liked

Character Design in the Digital Age
Character Design in the Digital AgeCharacter Design in the Digital Age
Character Design in the Digital AgeMarcus Brown
 
ロックフェスのつくりかた
ロックフェスのつくりかたロックフェスのつくりかた
ロックフェスのつくりかたhikarock
 
Peru'lu sulu boya ressami roger oncoy
Peru'lu sulu boya ressami  roger oncoyPeru'lu sulu boya ressami  roger oncoy
Peru'lu sulu boya ressami roger oncoyErden Bilginer
 
Boekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over Talenthouse
Boekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over TalenthouseBoekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over Talenthouse
Boekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over TalenthouseMara Frank
 

Viewers also liked (7)

Disability Project
Disability Project Disability Project
Disability Project
 
Ferguson collecting presentation
Ferguson collecting presentationFerguson collecting presentation
Ferguson collecting presentation
 
First Communion Stories
First Communion Stories First Communion Stories
First Communion Stories
 
Character Design in the Digital Age
Character Design in the Digital AgeCharacter Design in the Digital Age
Character Design in the Digital Age
 
ロックフェスのつくりかた
ロックフェスのつくりかたロックフェスのつくりかた
ロックフェスのつくりかた
 
Peru'lu sulu boya ressami roger oncoy
Peru'lu sulu boya ressami  roger oncoyPeru'lu sulu boya ressami  roger oncoy
Peru'lu sulu boya ressami roger oncoy
 
Boekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over Talenthouse
Boekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over TalenthouseBoekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over Talenthouse
Boekje \'we doen het zelf!\' Over Talenthouse
 

Recently uploaded

Marketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent Chirchir
Marketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent ChirchirMarketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent Chirchir
Marketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent Chirchirictsugar
 
Guide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDF
Guide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDFGuide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDF
Guide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDFChandresh Chudasama
 
Call Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City Gurgaon
Call Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City GurgaonCall Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City Gurgaon
Call Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City Gurgaoncallgirls2057
 
Innovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdf
Innovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdfInnovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdf
Innovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdfrichard876048
 
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCRashishs7044
 
Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024
Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024
Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024Kirill Klimov
 
PSCC - Capability Statement Presentation
PSCC - Capability Statement PresentationPSCC - Capability Statement Presentation
PSCC - Capability Statement PresentationAnamaria Contreras
 
Kenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith Perera
Kenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith PereraKenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith Perera
Kenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith Pereraictsugar
 
Darshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdf
Darshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdfDarshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdf
Darshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdfShashank Mehta
 
Cyber Security Training in Office Environment
Cyber Security Training in Office EnvironmentCyber Security Training in Office Environment
Cyber Security Training in Office Environmentelijahj01012
 
Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...
Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...
Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...Peter Ward
 
Pitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deck
Pitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deckPitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deck
Pitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deckHajeJanKamps
 
TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024
TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024
TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024Adnet Communications
 
Market Sizes Sample Report - 2024 Edition
Market Sizes Sample Report - 2024 EditionMarket Sizes Sample Report - 2024 Edition
Market Sizes Sample Report - 2024 EditionMintel Group
 
MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?
MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?
MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?Olivia Kresic
 
NewBase 19 April 2024 Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdf
NewBase  19 April  2024  Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdfNewBase  19 April  2024  Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdf
NewBase 19 April 2024 Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdfKhaled Al Awadi
 
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCRashishs7044
 
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCRashishs7044
 

Recently uploaded (20)

Marketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent Chirchir
Marketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent ChirchirMarketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent Chirchir
Marketplace and Quality Assurance Presentation - Vincent Chirchir
 
Guide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDF
Guide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDFGuide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDF
Guide Complete Set of Residential Architectural Drawings PDF
 
Call Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City Gurgaon
Call Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City GurgaonCall Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City Gurgaon
Call Us 📲8800102216📞 Call Girls In DLF City Gurgaon
 
Innovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdf
Innovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdfInnovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdf
Innovation Conference 5th March 2024.pdf
 
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Tughlakabad Delhi NCR
 
Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024
Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024
Flow Your Strategy at Flight Levels Day 2024
 
PSCC - Capability Statement Presentation
PSCC - Capability Statement PresentationPSCC - Capability Statement Presentation
PSCC - Capability Statement Presentation
 
Kenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith Perera
Kenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith PereraKenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith Perera
Kenya Coconut Production Presentation by Dr. Lalith Perera
 
No-1 Call Girls In Goa 93193 VIP 73153 Escort service In North Goa Panaji, Ca...
No-1 Call Girls In Goa 93193 VIP 73153 Escort service In North Goa Panaji, Ca...No-1 Call Girls In Goa 93193 VIP 73153 Escort service In North Goa Panaji, Ca...
No-1 Call Girls In Goa 93193 VIP 73153 Escort service In North Goa Panaji, Ca...
 
Corporate Profile 47Billion Information Technology
Corporate Profile 47Billion Information TechnologyCorporate Profile 47Billion Information Technology
Corporate Profile 47Billion Information Technology
 
Darshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdf
Darshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdfDarshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdf
Darshan Hiranandani [News About Next CEO].pdf
 
Cyber Security Training in Office Environment
Cyber Security Training in Office EnvironmentCyber Security Training in Office Environment
Cyber Security Training in Office Environment
 
Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...
Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...
Fordham -How effective decision-making is within the IT department - Analysis...
 
Pitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deck
Pitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deckPitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deck
Pitch Deck Teardown: Geodesic.Life's $500k Pre-seed deck
 
TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024
TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024
TriStar Gold Corporate Presentation - April 2024
 
Market Sizes Sample Report - 2024 Edition
Market Sizes Sample Report - 2024 EditionMarket Sizes Sample Report - 2024 Edition
Market Sizes Sample Report - 2024 Edition
 
MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?
MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?
MAHA Global and IPR: Do Actions Speak Louder Than Words?
 
NewBase 19 April 2024 Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdf
NewBase  19 April  2024  Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdfNewBase  19 April  2024  Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdf
NewBase 19 April 2024 Energy News issue - 1717 by Khaled Al Awadi.pdf
 
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Uttam Nagar Delhi NCR
 
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR
8447779800, Low rate Call girls in Kotla Mubarakpur Delhi NCR
 

The truth about the Internet: How we should view emerging technologies as children

  • 1. The truth about the Internet Marcus Brown. Head of Social Media at Booming
  • 2. PROLOGUE Web War I and the Nuclear Winter I’m old. Properly old. I survived the dot.com crash of the 1990’s. I’m a veteran of Web War One. I’m your granddad telling you what is was like back then. It was grim. When the bubble burst and companies burnt their way through millions of dollars, everything and everyone around the internet fell into some sort strange slumber. It was like a nuclear winter. The new economy was dead. Everyone was waiting for a messiah.
  • 3. PART ONE The children of the future. The messiah came. Actually, lots of them came and they were all bright and shiny. Everybody woke up again. The skies cleared, all was forgotten and we could all start to worship again.
  • 4. What do we see? So if we look at the sparkling “new” web, what do we see? Have we learned from the mistakes of Web War One? Does it really look and feel different now?
  • 5. What yousee What you see. AWESOME Well, it still looks awesome. In fact, it looks a little bit more awesome than it did back in the day. Look at all of these groovy logos. We can even put these logos into infographics and everything.
  • 6. What you see $ 50 Billion What you see. Well, nothing’s really changed here either. Still a lot of money around. In fact, there’s even more money around these days. The offices are bigger, so big that millionaire hipsters can ride around them on scooters.
  • 7. What you see What you see. Unicorns This is new, though. We never had singing unicorns back in the 1990’s but I suppose that’s progress. Yes, it must be progress.
  • 8. This hasn’t changed a bit. Every bright, new thing is immediately seen as a mature business. A couple of weeks after something has been launched we behave What you see What you see. as if it has been around for years. Mature Business
  • 9. What we should be seeing is children
  • 10. MySpace 8 years old myspace Myspace is an eight year old child who was once massively popular. Now nobody really wants to play with her anymore. Numerous fairy godparents have tried to cheer her up, sadly to no avail. http://www.flickr.com/photos/9493850@N08/4237028244/
  • 11. Twitter is a cheeky five Twitter 5 years old year old child that, quite frankly, won’t shut up. He is slightly annoying and hyperactive. Sadly, no one really knows what to do with him, least of all his parents. twitter http://www.flickr.com/photos/jilbean3/5522741049/
  • 12. 8 years old xing XING is an eight year old foreign exchange student from Germany. People consider him a dull child because he finds socializing difficult. Those who make an effort with him discover that he is, indeed, a really dull child. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jilbean3/5522741049/
  • 13. Facebook 7 years old facebook The seven year old Facebook is a child who, for some bizarre reason, is ridiculously popular. Even though he is obnoxious, steals photos out of your wallet and tells the teacher where you’re currently hiding, people seem to love him. How odd. http://www.flickr.com/photos/caitees_photography/3103326811/
  • 14. At only one year old the 1 year old little baby groupon has managed to amass an awful lot of sweeties. It would appear that, sadly, those sweeties don’t belong to him. That groupon doesn’t stop the grown- ups passing him around and commenting on how cute he is. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dabergs/4908779530/
  • 15. 2 years old foursquare The two year old foursquare knows exactly what she wants to be when she grows up. At least she did two minutes ago. No, she’s changed her mind again. No and again. Oh, now she’s sulking because nobody wants to play with her anymore. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dabergs/4908779530/
  • 16. YouTube 6 years old Everybody loves the six youtube year old YouTube. Everybody, including the six year old herself. The thing is, everybody has seemed to have forgotten that she’s only six, including the six year old herself. http://www.flickr.com/photos/emerycophoto/3423601630/
  • 17. 6 months old This cheeky little chap instagram is a mere 6 months old but boy, has he got what it takes to go really far. At least that’s what his uncle and aunts think. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sgilsdorf/2422177814/
  • 18. 2 weeks old The two week old google+ google+ doesn’t really have a future – he is the future, at least that’s what his godparents think. He’s got 10 million godparents. How about that?
  • 19.
  • 20. So this is our future ?
  • 21. PART TWO We are the parents of the future.
  • 22. […]recognizing that the child, for the full and harmonious development of his or her personality, should grow up in a family environment, in an atmosphere of happiness, If we start to think of love and understanding […] these bright new shiny things not in terms of mature businesses but UN Convention of the rights of the child for what (in age at least), they really are – children – then maybe they should have the same rights.
  • 23. “Accept the children with reverence, educate them with love, send them forth in freedom.” Rudolf Steiner That U.N. thing reminded me of good old Mr. Steiner.
  • 24. So what we (that’s you and me) should really be like, are hippies. We should be like hippie Mums and Dads. mum Google +
  • 25. Evil Step Mother. But hippie Mums and Dads we are not. We’re over zealous step-parents. We’ve read books on parenting and we have high hopes for our children. They’re going to go far. Really far and woe betide them if they don’t.
  • 26. Projection Instead of letting these “children of the Internet” get on with growing up in the time it takes to grow and mature, we force them into doing things they’re not ready to do.
  • 27. And when it all goes wrong. And when it all goes wrong we turn our backs, disown them and giggle at their misfortune.
  • 30. My vision of the future in 1979 When I was eight my vision of the future was living on a moon base. We were going to get spaceships and everything.
  • 31. My vision of the future in 1979 I thought, back then, that in the future we would have cool suits and great typography. But we didn’t get any of this.
  • 32. What I got was nothing but a bloody search engine. And that pisses me off.
  • 33. Middle Aged Future The future that we are seeing described to us now is nothing more than the lost future of a bunch of middle aged men who didn’t get their jet packs, spaceships or moon bases (not to mention the cool suits and great typography).
  • 34. So the things we’re seeing now are merely extensions of a future lost.
  • 36. We can either mourn a future that never came and squeeze it into everything we do.
  • 37. Or we can get down on the floor and play with it. We can try to truly understand what it is in order to come up with a future that is try to its context.
  • 38. The truth about the Internet Because the truth about the Internet is that it is the Peter Pan of the media world. It, in stark contrast to us, never ever gets old.
  • 39. Thank You. This was originally presented as part of LHBS’ “Uncomfortable Talks” series in Vienna.