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Transcript of Tweets. There tends to be a lot of debate on the roles & responsibilities of the Project Manager vs. the Product Manager. In this twitter talk, we would like to gain a better ...

Transcript of Tweets. There tends to be a lot of debate on the roles & responsibilities of the Project Manager vs. the Product Manager. In this twitter talk, we would like to gain a better understanding of how these roles can more effectively work together to bring to market high quality products.

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  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9YrPodcast: http://bit.ly/pJX8NHLinks: http://bit.ly/s9KyBmINTROThere tends to be a lot of debate on the roles & responsibilities of the Project Manager vs. the Product Manager. In thistwitter talk, we would like to gain a better understanding of how these roles can more effectively work together to bringto market high quality products.Robert says, "I am honored to join the Global Product Management Community on this upcoming twitter chat! This is atremendous opportunity for thought leaders in the space to come together and really bounce ideas off of one another,gain insight, and grow their own understanding on a number of topics in product management. I am very excited and looking forward to it." ABOUT ROBERT KELLY, PMP Robert Kelly has over 11 years of experience in IT service delivery, IT services portfolio development, and enterprise business process change at some of the largest financial services firms and hardware/software OEMs. He has been a customer facing, contract execution PM (Service Delivery) managing teams of 30+ technicians, as well as a business embedded PM managing internal enterpriseinitiatives (i.e. - new product development). The initiatives managed by Robert have been very complex in nature; withteams comprised of 12+ core members/30+extended, sitting in 10+ countries, and at all levels of the organization(Directors, Executive Directors, Vice President, and General Management). Roberts blog, Kellys Contemplationhttp://kellycrew.wordpress.com was named a Top 10 Finalist in Computer Weeklys 2010 Project Management BlogAwards.QUESTIONSQ1 As a product manager, what do you see the role of a project manager being?Q2 Often, speed to market is a crucial aspect of product development. How do you feel the project managementPROCESS hinders or enables speed to market?Q3 What is the greatest value-add that a Project Manager can provide to you as the Product Manager?Q4 With the green/sustainability movement growing stronger each year, whose responsibility is it to make sure theproducts are considering this space?Q5 Project managers are very focused on requirements (whats in and whats out), the scope. However, markets shift.What is your perspective on their ability to accept and manage change?MENTIONED DURING TALKDOD – Department of DefenseITAR - International Traffic in Arms RegulationsTom Peters http://www.tompeters.com/Rich Mironov – Product Management and Parenting http://bit.ly/rpjOhiBooks:From The Economist http://bit.ly/v9lfCuScrappy Project Management w/Kimberly Wiefling http://bit.ly/ojFjX6The Accidental Project Manager http://amzn.to/rBbZk7The Lazy Project Manager http://bit.ly/quoysz_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 1 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9YrTWEET CHRONOLOGYJoin Global Product Management Talk!Never participated in a twitter chat? FAQs http://t.co/Qr2s1o0OLearn How to participate in Socratic Twitter Talk via Global Prod Mgmt Talk http://t.co/nV2DZfloLearn about Tweeting Best Practices and Twitter Talk FAQs http://t.co/8WzU7LSfcindyfsolomon Started pre-talk w/ @brainmates & @rkelly976 Listen http://t.co/d5yfqr37 3:47pmrkelly976 10 Minutes until I join in a discussion on Product Management vs. Project Management. Hope folks from#PMChat will join #prodmgmttalk 3:48pmProdMgmtTalk We talk about serious issues in a relaxed manner weekly!#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DTTodays questions for discussion http://t.co/vkiodQGn PR http://t.co/VTkCnzif 3:54pmrkelly976 #PMChat crew, Beer has already been spoken about here on the #prodmgmttalk 3:54pmgander2112 Beer, is there anything it CANT do? #prodmgmttalk 3:55pmProdMgmtTalk Robert is talking about #pmchat Twitter Talk at 12 ET on Fridays with 15 min pretalk introducingguest #prodmgmttalk 3:57pmProdMgmtTalk Welcome @gander2112 ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 3:57pmbrainmates A truly wonderful product! RT @gander2112: Beer, is there anything it CANT do? #prodmgmttalk3:57pmgander2112 looking forward to Q3. Guess what my first answer will be...#prodmgmttalk 3:58pmProdMgmtTalk Were talking about tweet chat tools http://t.co/6eJl4Fjb #prodmgmttalk 3:59pmProdMgmtTalk Drum roll - And were on the hour! Welcome to our speaker Robert Kelly @rkelly976 #prodmgmttalk4:01pmProdMgmtTalk Please introduce yourself: where youre tweeting from, your involvement w/prod/proj management#prodmgmttalk 4:01pmProdMgmtTalk This is Cindy @cindyfsolomon your co-host, tweeting from across the bay from San Francisco#prodmgmttalk 4:02pmbrainmates Its Adrienne, co-host tweeting from Sydney #prodmgmttalk 4:02pmgander2112 Geoff Anderson, Tucson Arizona. Sunny, 90F, and crystal clear outside here #prodmgmttalk4:02pmrkelly976 Thank you so much for having me! I am Robert Kelly from Raleigh, NC, USA. Honored to be here onthe #prodmgmttalk 4:02pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 2 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9YrErikaLAndersen Erika Andersen from Salt Lake City, Utah checking into #prodmgmttalk 4:04pmgander2112 is there an audiofeed? #prodmgmttalk 4:05pmrkelly976 Geoff, Erika...nice to meet you! #prodmgmttalk 4:05pmProdMgmtTalk We are broadcasting live on the air! Listen in now at http://t.co/5LMxjKNA #BlogTalkRadio#prodmgmttalk 4:06pmgander2112 Erika is ok, but she spells her last name wrong ;-) #prodmgmttalk 4:06pmErikaLAndersen Sounds like a great topic ... Distinctions between "product" and "project" management ... Come jointhe fun #prodmgmttalk 4:06pmProdMgmtTalk You may call in to talk with us GUEST CALL-IN (323) 927-2957 #prodmgmttalk 4:06pmProdMgmtTalk Q1 As a product manager, what do you see the role of a project manager being? #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:06pmbrainmates Q1 As a product manager, what do you see the role of a project manager being? #prodmgmttalk 4:06pmProdMgmtTalk asked Robert if requires a large org to have both project & product management departments#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:07pmErikaLAndersen Sorry Geoff, but the magic is all in the e RT @gander2112: Erika is ok, but she spells her last namewrong ;-) #prodmgmttalk 4:07pmProdMgmtTalk Welcome @ErikaLAndersen ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:07pmgander2112 A1: Honestly, keeping me honest. Preventing overcommitment.#prodmgmttalk 4:07pmgander2112 A1: This is the first job where I had a formal Project manager, and I love it. PMPs rule #prodmgmttalk4:08pmProdMgmtTalk Please welcome our speaker Robert Kelly, PMP @rkelly976 PMP Managing Partner, Kelly ProjectSolutions #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:08pmrkelly976 Agree :) RT @gander2112: A1: This is the first job where I had a formal Project manager, and I love it.PMPs rule #prodmgmttalk 4:08pmbrainmates A1: Project managers oversee project budget, timelines, keeping project on track #prodmgmttalk4:09pmProdMgmtTalk RT @gander2112: A1: This is the first job where I had a formal Project manager, and I love it. PMPsrule #prodmgmttalk 4:09pmbrainmates I love Project Managers too... Tough job! #prodmgmttalk 4:09pmProdMgmtTalk Tom Peters says "Everything is a Project" #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:10pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 3 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrschoenfeldj @perfectmarket is lucky to have great ones! RT @brainmates: I love Project Managers too... Toughjob! #prodmgmttalk 4:10pmgander2112 Without a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tactical details. Never get to the real valueof #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk 4:10pmbrainmates True! RT @gander2112: Without a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tacticaldetails. #prodmgmttalk 4:11pmProdMgmtTalk Welcome @schoenfeldj ! Were discussing http://t.co/vkiodQGn Listen here: http://t.co/9jDicamm#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:11pmgander2112 A product is multiple projects. Task break down to maximize efficiency #prodmgmttalk 4:11pmkfriedson RT @gander2112: Without a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tactical details. Never getto the real value of #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk 4:12pmProdMgmtTalk Welcome @kfriedson ! "theres push on #project mgmt to be more strategic - but #prdmgmt isalready #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:13pmgander2112 #prodmgmt w/o project managment is apple pie without vanilla ice cream :-) #prodmgmttalk 4:13pmProdMgmtTalk @rkelly976 says #Project management often aligned w/IT & #prodmgmt aligned w/sales &mrktg #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:14pmbrainmates @rkelly976 says that #prodmgmt more strategic than #projectmanagement. #prodmgmttalk 4:14pmbrainmates Sweet RT @gander2112: #prodmgmt w/o project managment is apple pie without vanilla ice cream :-) #prodmgmttalk 4:14pmgander2112 Sadly, What I learned about project management came from a book by The Economist. I hate to admitthat, but it was a good rd. #prodmgmttalk 4:14pmrkelly976 Great! RT @kfriedson: @gander2112: W/out a project manager, a product manager is buried in the tacticaldetails. #prodmgmttalk 4:14pmProdMgmtTalk @rkelly976 says #project mgrs work themselves out of a job at project completion, #prodmgmt staysaround! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:15pmErikaLAndersen Scary thought: @rkelly976 says that project managers are working themselves out of a job atcompletion #prodmgmttalk 4:15pmErikaLAndersen @gander2112: Pray tell, what was the book? #prodmgmttalk 4:15pmProdMgmtTalk A strong #project mgr steps outside of tactical to understand entire biz perspective & will be askedback to other projects #prodmgmttalk 4:16pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 4 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrgander2112 If a #project manager works themselves out of a job, then the company doesnt value the discipline#prodmgmttalk 4:16pmProdMgmtTalk Welcome @perfectmarket ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:17pmbrainmates Product Managers stay with a product through its lifecycle & Project Managers move on to the nextproject #prodmgmttalk 4:17pmgander2112 From the Economist Press : Guide to Project Management. Good read. Non-technical #prodmgmttalk4:18pmProdMgmtTalk @rkelly976 says #project mgrs seen inflexible gatekeepers - they need excellent #prodmgmt toprovide data #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:18pmErikaLAndersen Thanks! RT @gander2112: From the Economist Press : Guide to Project Management. Good read.Non-technical #prodmgmttalk 4:18pmrkelly976 I will get that, thx RT @gander2112: From the Economist Press : Guide to Project Management. Good read.Non-technical #prodmgmttalk 4:19pmgander2112 My project manager prevents me from being dumb very often #prodmgmttalk 4:19pmProdMgmtTalk Part 1: Q2 Often, speed to market is a crucial aspect of product development. #prodmgmttalk 4:20pmProdMgmtTalk Part 2 Q2 How do you feel the project management PROCESS enables that? Or do you think ithinders it? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:20pmgander2112 A2: If belief is project mgmt hinders velocity, try living without it. #prodmgmttalk 4:20pmgander2112 A2: The second or third time you re-do the product/project, you will see the value #prodmgmttalk4:21pmProdMgmtTalk Q2 (reworded) How does #proj mgmt enable or hinder speed to market? #prodmgmttalk 4:21pmbrainmates A2: Project Mgmt takes away the pain of Prod Development. #prodmgmttalk 4:22pmgander2112 An old employer I worked for, I watched them do routine projects 2x. Why do it right, if you can do it twicequickly? #prodmgmttalk 4:22pmProdMgmtTalk Accolades for @gander2112 ! Mentioned: Scrappy Project Mgmt by Kimberly Wiefling#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:23pmgander2112 Do a product with DOD/ITAR requirements, and you MUST have Project Management #prodmgmttalk4:23pmgander2112 Really quiet today. #prodmgmttalk 4:24pmProdMgmtTalk About Scrappy Project Mgmt http://t.co/GGRfmlvC #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/ZnvqR9DT 4:24pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 5 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9YrErikaLAndersen RT @gander2112: I watched an old employer do routine projects 2x. Why do it right if you can do ittwice quickly? #prodmgmttalk 4:24pmbrainmates I know... RT @gander2112: Really quiet today. #prodmgmttalk 4:24pmgander2112 Do project managers envy product managers? #prodmgmttalk 4:25pmProdMgmtTalk Q3 What is the greatest valu e-add that a Project Manager can provide to you as the ProductManager? #prodmgmttalk 4:25pmgander2112 Oh, you know it, a bad #prodmgmt person can ruin program. (from the audio feed) #prodmgmttalk4:26pmProdMgmtTalk Mondays 4:00 PM PT with @cindysolomon @rkelly976 @kellysolutions http://t.co/ZnvqR9DT#prodmgmttalk 4:27pmgander2112 A3: Discipline. Attention to detail. Interface to development team. Tactical proficiency. Time/resourcemgmt #prodmgmttalk 4:27pmcindyfsolomon RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Q3 What is the greatest value-add that a Project Manager can provide to you asthe Product Manager? #prodmgmttalk 4:28pmgander2112 Most Project managers I know are happy to leave #prodmgmt to the product managers #prodmgmttalk4:28pmbrainmates Good ones do! RT @gander2112: Most Project managers I know are happy to leave #prodmgmt to theproduct managers #prodmgmttalk 4:29pmBeta_Boy RT @brainmates: Product Managers stay with a product through its lifecycle & Project Managers move onto the next project #prodmgmttalk 4:29pmgander2112 If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to dev. Hoo boy. #prodmgmttalk 4:29pmcindyfsolomon A3 #Project mgrs handle tactical issues for #prod mgmr to tailor technical communication &strategy #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:29pmErikaLAndersen RT @gander2112: If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to dev. Hooboy. #prodmgmttalk 4:29pmcindyfsolomon Welcome @Beta_Boy! Were discussing Q3 http://t.co/w7ygnXYe #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:30pmrkelly976 Yes!! RT @gander2112: If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly to dev. Hoo boy.#prodmgmttalk 4:30pmbrainmates A3: Project Mgmt that help with stakeholder management is invaluable during product dev process#prodmgmttalk 4:30pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 6 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9YrDianeDromgold RT @rkelly976: Yes!! RT @gander2112: If you want to piss off your project manager, go directly todev. Hoo boy. #prodmgmttalk 4:31pmbrainmates In #agile environment, Project Manager is more of a facilitator but they r not Product Owner accto @rkelly976 #prodmgmttalk 4:31pmgander2112 Of course we can devolve into a PO vs #prodmgmt discussion ;-)#prodmgmttalk 4:31pmcindyfsolomon Welcome @DianeDromgold #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:32pmgander2112 Is "project manager" synonymous with "Scrum master"?#prodmgmttalk 4:33pmcindyfsolomon Talking about Agile practitioners & open source project managers #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:33pmcindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: Is "project manager" synonymous with "Scrum master"? #prodmgmttalkgander2112 In my world, my project managers are certified scrum masters. It works well. #prodmgmttalk 4:34pmgander2112 I think certification makes a lot of sense for project management. PMP means a level of dedication, andCE commitment #prodmgmttalk 4:36pmcindyfsolomon @rkelly976 says "yes" to @gander2112 that #projmgmt are scrum masters (or should be) #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:36pmcindyfsolomon Off question - discussing value of certification (Robert is PMP, Cindy is CPM/CPMM) #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:36pmpmfoundations It works that way but does not need to be that way>>@gander2112Is "project manager" synonymouswith "Scrum master"? #prodmgmttalk 4:37pmcindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: I think certification makes a lot of sense for project management. PMP means alevel of dedication, and CE commitment #prodmgmttalk 4:37pmcindyfsolomon Welcome @pmfoundations @annanthem #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:37pmgander2112 The defense industry is full of non-certified, but kick-arse project managers. #prodmgmttalk 4:37pmcindyfsolomon Certification adds validity to discipline, but doesnt necessarily vet individual certified holder #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:38pmrkelly976 @pmfoundations Hey Steve! Welcome to #prodmgmttalk 4:38pmgander2112 Any idea on how many people are listening into the audio?#prodmgmttalk 4:38pmevanwolf A3. Green is only one cultural or civic value. Everyone has a duty to apply those values to scope andprocess choices. #prodmgmttalk 4:39pmcindyfsolomon Caller please say hello so we can hear you! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:39pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 7 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrcindyfsolomon Welcome @evanwolf #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:40pmgander2112 Q4 maybe @evanwolf? #prodmgmttalk 4:40pmannanthem #prodmgmttalk Certification attests to intention, but may not guarantee execution. That varies byindividual http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:40pmcindyfsolomon Q4 With green/sustainability movement growing, whos responsibility is it to make sure products areconsidering this space? #prodmgmttalk 4:40pmcindyfsolomon @evanwolf please explain further your statement re: Q4 #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:41pmErikaLAndersen RT @annanthem: Certification attests intention, but not execution. Varies by individualhttp://t.co/hi3mjuzQ #prodmgmttalk 4:41pmpmfoundations @rkelly976 Hello - great discussion #prodmgmttalk 4:41pmcindyfsolomon @evanwolf Robert @rkelly976 is verbally answering Q4 #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:42pmcindyfsolomon says @rkelly976 "If you really want a green product, must be core value from top level down"#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:42pmmarkdavidmoran RT @brainmates: Product Managers stay with a product through its lifecycle & Project Managersmove on to the next project #prodmgmttalk 4:42pmgander2112 A4: this one can be a bit slippery. I think I will abstain. Agree that leadership comes from top though.#prodmgmttalk 4:42pmbrainmates RT @annanthem Certification attests to intention, but may not guarantee execution. That varies byindividual #prodmgmttalk 4:42pmpmfoundations I think the projduct manager - they own the way the product works @cindyfsolomon Q4#prodmgmttalk 4:43pmcindyfsolomon Welcome @markdavidmoran ! Todays background http://t.co/Cav5aJwm #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:44pmgander2112 A4: A lot like adherence to a formal PLC process #prodmgmttalk 4:44pmannanthem #prodmgmttalk Being a product manager is like being a parent. Being a project manager is like being afoster parent...http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:44pmcindyfsolomon "People lean on top leadership too much...slippery, people are overworked, not evry1 boughtin" #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:45pmgander2112 A4: Can be tough to achieve if it costs more, or takes longer. Business is business, unless there is apayoff, hard to jstfy #prodmgmttalk 4:45pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 8 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrbrainmates @annanthem Ohhh that is funny! re: Product Manager = Parent, Project Manager = Foster Parent#prodmgmttalk 4:46pmcindyfsolomon #prodmgmt can cut down on waste & paper, use virtual mtgs...#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna14:46pmgander2112 Yeah, but all those are small fry in a normal project (from audio stream) #prodmgmttalk 4:46pmErikaLAndersen RT @brainmates: @annanthem Ohhh that is funny! re: Product Manager = Parent, Project Manager= Foster Parent #prodmgmttalk 4:46pmcindyfsolomon @rkelly976 worked with over 10 countries on project w/out leaving home base #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:46pmevanwolf A4. Not just Green. Values include legal compliance, safety, political/worker empowerment, work/lifebalance. #prodmgmttalk 4:47pmcindyfsolomon RT @evanwolf: A4. Not just Green. Values include legal compliance, safety, political/workerempowerment, work/life balance. #prodmgmttalk 4:47pmcindyfsolomon @evanwolf thanks for clarifying that green = strategic sustainability in all areas #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:48pmevanwolf A4. The duty to do the right thing, the moral course, lies in every participant in the product Dev process #prodmgmttalk 4:49pmpmfoundations @cindyfsolomon Sorry product manager - they own the content of the product #prodmgmttalk4:49pmcindyfsolomon Q5 (part2) However, markets shift. What is your perspective on their ability to accept and managechange? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:49pmcindyfsolomon Q5 What is your perspective on #project managements ability to accept and manage change (changeagent)? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:50pmgander2112 A5: If anything, Project managers are used to shifting reqmnts, directions, and handle with aplomb#prodmgmttalk 4:50pmrkelly976 RT @evanwolf: A4. The duty to do the right thing, the moral course, lies in every participant in the productDev process #prodmgmttalk 4:50pmannanthem #prodmgmttalk No more or less of a change agent than any other process-driven function.http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:51pmpmfoundations Q5: Product manager owns responding to the mkt shift. Project manager owns impact on currentproject/program @cindyfsolomon #prodmgmttalk 4:51pmcindyfsolomon RT @annanthem: #prodmgmttalk No more or less of a change agent than any other process-drivenfunction. http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:52pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 9 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrcindyfsolomon RT @pmfoundations: Q5: Product manager owns responding to the mkt shift. Project manager ownsimpact on current project/program @cindyfsolomon #prodmgmttalk 4:52pmgander2112 oops, lost audio #prodmgmttalk 4:52pmbrainmates A5: Good Project Managers understand & manage change, Bad Project Managers are stalwarts#prodmgmttalk 4:52pmannanthem RT @pmfoundations: Q5: Product manager owns responding to the mkt shift. Project manager ownsimpact on current project/program@cindyfsolomon #prodmgmttalk 4:52pmcindyfsolomon "Certification and title of position does not guarantee quality of professional" #prodmgmttalk4:53pmgander2112 A5: agile doesnt mean faster, it means able to adjust course to changing environments #prodmgmttalk4:53pmcindyfsolomon Change agent reqs partnerships because you cant change anything in a silo #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:54pmstempm RT @cindyfsolomon: "Certification and title of position does not guarantee quality of professional" #prodmgmttalk 4:54pmgander2112 Perhaps being scrum master helps project management adapt and change as needed? #prodmgmttalk4:54pmcindyfsolomon The role calls for both #pm to be change agents, but doesnt guarantee effectiveness of practioner#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:54pmcindyfsolomon Welcome @stempm ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:55pmcindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: Perhaps being scrum master helps project management adapt and change asneeded? #prodmgmttalk 4:55pmbrainmates RT @gander2112: A5: agile doesnt mean faster, it means able to adjust course to changingenvironments #prodmgmttalk 4:55pmgander2112 Does project management report to engineering or product management? #prodmgmttalk4:55pmbrainmates Can be both RT @gander2112: Does project management report to engineering or productmanagement? #prodmgmttalk 4:55pmannanthem #prodmgmttalk Project Mgmt = Process-driven / Execution-focused. Product Mgmt = Content-driven,Ideas-focused.http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:55pmlmckeogh Ah nuts, work got in the way of #prodmgmttalk. Ill have to catch the transcript. Next week. 4:56pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 10 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrcindyfsolomon "The mindset is different on an Agile project" says @rkelly976 #prodmgmttalk 4:56pmgander2112 I keep having to explain to my boss that Agile != faster. Gets tiring.#prodmgmttalk 4:56pmcindyfsolomon Welcome @lmckeogh (briefly!) #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 4:56pmcindyfsolomon RT @annanthem: #prodmgmttalk Project Mgmt = Process-driven / Execution-focused. Product Mgmt= Content-driven, Ideas-focused.http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 4:56pmpmfoundations @gander2112 totally agree>>A5: agile doesnt mean faster, it means able to adjust course tochanging environments #prodmgmttalk 4:56pmcindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: I keep having to explain to my boss that Agile != faster. Gets tiring. #prodmgmttalk4:56pmbrainmates @gander2112 Tell your boss to join our discussions :)#prodmgmttalk 4:57pmgander2112 I also hate having to explain to people that Agile Demos are not design reviews. #prodmgmttalk 4:57pmcindyfsolomon RT @gander2112: I also hate having to explain to people that Agile Demos are not design reviews. #prodmgmttalk 4:58pmstempm Cool topic! Proj. Mngs, Prod. Mngrs, Scrum Musters.. They are all different proffesions with different goals. #prodmgmttalk 4:58pmgander2112 Um, nah. I will pass on that ;-) RT @brainmates: @gander2112 Tell your boss to join our discussions:) #prodmgmttalk 4:58pmbrainmates @gander2112 I hate having to explain that wireframes are not design reviews :) #prodmgmttalk 4:58pmcindyfsolomon RT @stempm: Cool topic! Proj. Mngs, Prod. Mngrs, Scrum Musters.. They are all different proffesionswith different goals.#prodmgmttalk 4:59pmstempm Using each appropriately is sthe key to success! Orgs fail when they try to substitute projmgmt for prodmgmtfor scrummusters #prodmgmttalk 4:59pmgander2112 Oh yeah. That too. RT @brainmates: @gander2112 I hate having to explain that wireframes are notdesign reviews :) #prodmgmttalk 4:59pmannanthem #prodmgmttalk Will have to catch the rest on transcript... Thanks...http://t.co/GM1XcXWy 5:00pmgander2112 Or, one person for all 3 RT @stempm: Orgs fail when they try to substitute projmgmt for prodmgmt forscrummusters #prodmgmttalk 5:00pmcindyfsolomon Unedited transcript available soon at http://t.co/aDC0DAsK scroll to bottom & readup #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:00pmgander2112 Topic for a different day - Risk management, and product management. #prodmgmttalk 5:01pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 11 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrcindyfsolomon Follow us on LinkedIn http://t.co/KF6Uk2jn Join LinkedIn group http://t.co/b3WFJIIS #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:01pmbrainmates Oooohhh - Nice! RT @gander2112: Topic for a different day - Risk management, and productmanagement. #prodmgmttalk 5:01pmcindyfsolomon Contribute to the Global Product Management Talk blog http://t.co/kSJQdy3V #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:01pmcindyfsolomon Global Product Management Talk Speaker Schedule http://t.co/raKf6V7R #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:01pmgander2112 Thanks for the session! Great session! #prodmgmttalk 5:02pmrkelly976 Thank you all so much! Great group here on #prodmgmttalk 5:02pmcindyfsolomon Next week: Building Innovative Products w/Jason Hardy-Smith, VP Product of Bright Idea#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:03pmstempm @gander2112 That sounds fun and this is what we could really learn from PMPs! #prodmgmttalk 5:03pmcindyfsolomon Thank you @rkelly976 this was a great talk! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:03pmbrainmates Thanks so much for joining us. We speak again next week Tues 10AM. We are talking #innovation &#prodmgmt w/ VP of Bright Idea #prodmgmttalk 5:03pmcindyfsolomon #PMChat earn PDUs when they participate in twitter chats! Ahhhh! #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:04pmcindyfsolomon "Self-directive study" #project mgrs submit transcript to PDI to earn PDU - incentive! #prodmgmttalk5:05pmstempm RT @cindyfsolomon Next week: Building Innovative Products w/Jason Hardy-Smith, VP Product of BrightIdea #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/TMVm3RAF 5:05pmcindyfsolomon #PMChat has a pre-game show with gamified incentives - free book giveaways: ideas for us!#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:06pmcindyfsolomon @rkelly976 Thank you Robert with 3 little ones and a dog (all quiet) during this talk! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:07pmstempm for next hackathon anywhere, can someone come-up with an app to send Twitter-scheduled events tocalendar? i keep missing #prodmgmttalk! :) 5:08pmcindyfsolomon Calling all social media cheer leaders for Global Product Management Talk ! #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:08pmcindyfsolomon RT @stempm: for next hackathon anywhere, can someone come-up with an app to send Twitter-scheduled events to calendar? i keep missing #prodmgmttalk! :) 5:09pm_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 12 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk
  • Transcript from Oct 17, 2011: Global Product Management Talk w/ Robert Kelly, PMP Distinctions between Managing Products and Managing Projects MAIL: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB:http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 Site: http://bit.ly/dESAcb Hear: http://bit.ly/nbw9Yrcindyfsolomon Pregame show, guests posts, recaps, blog feed (we can add a blog feed for product mgmt also)#prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:11pmcindyfsolomon Q6 - product managers less likely to promote themselves than project managers? #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:12pmcindyfsolomon Thank you everyone for todays participation! Todays http://t.co/Cav5aJwm #prodmgmttalkhttp://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:13pmcindyfsolomon Mandate over next 3 years: 20-40% must fill positions via social media - imperitive to promote selves #prodmgmttalk http://t.co/mUsSAna1 5:15pmcindyfsolomon Hootsuite, buffer, twuffer great tweet scheduling tools & reminders #prodmgmttalk 5:18pmcindyfsolomon http://t.co/AxbXVv2a is a new tool for me great resource http://t.co/uVC7xrh4 #prodmgmttalk5:19pmcindyfsolomon Thank you Robert Kelly @rkelly976 for speaking today!#prodmgmttalk 5:23pmrkelly976 It was fun! Thank you for the oppty! RT @cindyfsolomon: Thank you Robert Kelly @rkelly976 for speakingtoday! #prodmgmttalk 5:29pmcindyfsolomon Bravo! #prodmgmttalk @gander2112 @annanthem @ErikaLAndersen @pmfoundations @evanwolf @markdavidmoran @DianeDromgold @stempm @Beta_Boy 5:29pmrkelly976 Are you a Product Manager? Check out @ProdMgmtTalk and their community! Great folks, lots of fun,wonderful resource!#prodmgmttalk 5:30pmcindyfsolomon Awesome! @rkelly976 @kellysolutions @schoenfeldj @perfectmarket @brainmates@prodmgmttalk @kfriedson @lmkeogh #prodmgmttalk 5:31pmcindyfsolomon Mondays 4:00 PM PT #prodmgmttalk with @cindysolomon @brainmates http://t.co/mUsSAna15:35pm Todays stats: 227 tweets generated 266,478 impressions, reaching an audience of 19,860 followersVisit our website blog http://bit.ly/eOFmB6 for more information about weekly speakers, talk focus, & resources :http://www.prodmgmttalk.com_______________________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsor us http://bit.ly/gF0Tt3 Thank you http://bit.ly/phTOWh 13 GLOBAL PRODUCT MANAGEMENT TALK http://www.prodmgmttalk.com @prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk