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July 11: Global Product Management Talk Pits Product Managers Against Scrum Product Owners w/Lance Knight

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  • 1. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8ProdMgmtTalk Never participated in a twitter chat? FAQs - http://bit.ly/i88OuC Join us! How to participate in Global Prod Mgmt Talk http://bit.ly/i3f5Q7ProdMgmtTalk Get ready! Join us at http://tweetchat.com/room/prodmgmttalk automatically appends hashtag#prodmgmttalkProdMgmtTalk Discussion questions from each talk http://on.fb.me/fFRi7b Today’s questions:http://on.fb.me/qxBWAiProdMgmtTalk Please introduce yourself & where youre from when you come in!Cindyfsolomon This is Cindy, your co-host, tweeting from across the bay from San FranciscoNOTE: Today our speaker @lancedknight is tweeting as @prodmgmttalk today to guarantee visibility!cindyfsolomon Please follow @lancedknight & @prodmgmttalk to participate in debateat http://tweetchat.com/room/prodmgmttalk -3:44 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster Join me for an interesting discussion about the roles of product owner vs product managersat: http://bit.ly/rkbDJs #prodmgmttalk -3:55 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon See a list of all the twitter chats: 456 and growing! Twitter ChatSchedule http://bit.ly/dJVfHk #prodmgmttalk -3:59 PM Jul 11th, 2011accept360 @lancedknight - go ahead and rock the #prodmgmttalk house! -3:59 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay Greetings @brainmates @ProdMgmtTalk @cindyfsolomon @nickcoster@accept360 &everyone else #prodmgmttalk -4:01 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger This is Stacy PM for Vivisimo from Pittsburgh PA, looking forward to 2dayschat! #prodmgmttalk -4:01 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates Adrienne, Product Strategy consultant from Sydney ready to debate Product Managementvs Product Owner #prodmgmttalk -4:01 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Intro speaker @lancedknight: Lance is Senior Director of Global Solutions Engineering atAccept Corporation #prodmgmttalk -4:02 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix @ProdMgmtTalk hello glad to be back!brainmates @MacMyDay @stacyleidwinger - thanks for joining #prodmgmttalk -4:02 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Intro speaker @lancedknight: Lance Knight is Certified Scrum Master as well as CertifiedScrum Professional #prodmgmttalk -4:02 PM Jul 11th, 2011 1 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 2. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8cindyfsolomon Todays questions are at http://on.fb.me/qxBWAi#prodmgmttalk -4:02 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Q1 What is the product management role in scrum? #prodmgmttalk -4:03 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Intro speaker @lancedknight (as @prodmgmttalk today): started three companies andbrought their products/services to market. #prodmgmttalk-4:03 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen This is Erika Andersen from Salt Lake City checking into todays#prodmgmttalk -4:04 PMJul 11th, 2011nickcoster A1) The product manager is trying to create value through the products features. Theinterface for this into scrum is the PO #prodmgmttalk -4:04 PM Jul 11th,cindyfsolomon Hi @ErikaLAndersen ! #prodmgmttalk -4:04 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk A1, Acc to Lance -Role of Prod Management in Scrum - manage upper level features ofthe story - interfacing with the customer #prodmgmttalk -4:04 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger Hi Erika @ErikaLAndersen #prodmgmttalk -4:05 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk A1: Prod manager is really the customer in the scrum process #agile#prodmgmttalk -4:05 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @ProdMgmtTalk: A1: Prod manager is really the customer in the scrumprocess #agile #prodmgmttalk -4:06 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Q1 What is the product management role inscrum? #prodmgmttalk -4:06 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen Happy to announce #PCampUtah on Sept 10,2011 http://pcamputah.org#prodmgmt #prodmktg #prodmgmttalk -4:06 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger A1: PM is the VoC - focused on setting priorities & identifying productneed #prodmgmttalk -4:06 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco Very much so RT @ProdMgmtTalk: A1: Prod manager is really the customer in the scrumprocess #agile #prodmgmttalk -4:07 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash Al from Allegiance.com checking in for #prodmgmttalk , from my shiny new HP Touchpad:) -4:07 PM Jul 11th, 2011accept360 RT @ProdMgmtTalk: A1: Prod manager is really the customer in the scrumprocess #agile #prodmgmttalk -4:07 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk @imusicmash Welcome! Thanks for joining #prodmgmttalk -4:07 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster A1) (Thinking of google+ circles these days) The ProdOwner exists in both the PM circle andthe Scrum circle #prodmgmttalk -4:07 PM Jul 11th, 2011 2 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 3. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight cindyf http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8 solom on (Note to Cindy: specify appropriate time for promotions is beginning at 4:55...., unless sponsoringtalk) #prodmgmttalk -4:07 PM Jul 11th, 2011GnosisArts RT @cindyfsolomon: If youre not showing up in twitter search, follow theseinstructions http://bit.ly/kn5C0e #prodmgmttalk -4:08 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @wapolanco: Very much so RT @ProdMgmtTalk: A1: Prod manager is really thecustomer in the scrum process #agile #prodmgmttalk -4:08 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay A1 PM facilitates discussions & decisions between technical stakeholders & the businessstakeholders #prodmgmttalk -4:08 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Absolutely (acc to Lance) RT @StacyLeidwinger: A1: PM is the VoC - focused on settingpriorities & identifying product need #prodmgmttalk -4:09 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco A1: PM is the customer in scrum. Very much a "pig" with dual purpose: ensure req are clear& remove biz impediments #prodmgmttalk -4:09 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Great @nickcoster! A1)In Google+ - ProdOwner exists in both PM circle & Scrum circlenot impossible to do both simultaneously #prodmgmttalk -4:09 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @wapolanco: A1: PM is customer in scrum. Very much a "pig" with dual purpose:ensure req are clear & remove biz impediments #prodmgmttalk -4:09 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin A1: #prodmgmt role, #agile or not, is to lead the process of making informed strategic productdecisions. #prodmgmttalk -4:10 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Were representing traditional product management view, but not the scrum productowner perspective #prodmgmttalk -4:10 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk All replies so far have been good - These are traditional product manager roles notproduct owner roles #prodmgmttalk -4:10 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk RT @rcauvin: A1: #prodmgmt role, #agile or not, is to lead the process of makinginformed strategic product decisions. #prodmgmttalk -4:10 PM Jul 11th, 2011Ycnt_ibdonlyjen Phone charged, on train n ready for #prodmgmttalk. Hi guys! -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster A1) I think the ProdOwner is more than just the customer. They represent the strategicleadership of the Scrum for the biz. #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @rcauvin: A1: #prodmgmt role, #agile or not, is to lead the process of making informedstrategic product decisions. #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin Product owner is not the same role as #prodmgmt role, though there isoverlap.#prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates Thanks for joining! RT @Ycnt_ibdonlyjen: Phone charged, on train n readyfor#prodmgmttalk. Hi guys! #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011 3 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 4. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8accept360 RT@rcauvin A1: #prodmgmt role, #agile or not, is to lead the process of making informedstrategic product decisions. #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Yeah - disagreement! @nickcoster finally - Debate!#prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco RT @rcauvin: A1: #prodmgmt role, #agile or not, is to lead the process of making informedstrategic product decisions. #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon @lancedknight says product owner is NOT the customer, the product manageris #prodmgmttalk -4:11 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash @prodmgmttalk PM in scrum, amongst other non-scrum related activities and roles, hasthe role of being product owner. #prodmgmttalk -4:12 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk RT @rcauvin: Product owner is not the same role as #prodmgmt role, though there isoverlap. #prodmgmttalk -4:12 PM Jul 11th, 2011Beta_Boy RT @brainmates: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: A1: Prod manager is really the customer in the scrumprocess #agile #prodmgmttalk -4:12 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster Do we always assume that the ProdManager and ProdOwner are 2 diffpeople?#prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Welcome @imusicmash @Beta_Boy Todays questions are athttp://on.fb.me/qxBWAi onQ1 #prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin Product owner role includes more tactical responsibility, day-to-day prioritization. Still customerproxy, though. #prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen Product owner single wringable neck of project, prioritizes requirements...See http://bit.ly/AvDJ #prodmgmttalk -4:13 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight - Product Owner & Product Manager could be the same persondepending on the size of the company #prodmgmttalk -4:14 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix @brainmates @wapolanco @ProdMgmtTalk and do we have 2 b experts in#agile 2 be acustomer? #prodmgmttalk -4:14 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @nickcoster #prodmgmt & product owner are different roles w/ some overlap. Can be playedby the same person. #prodmgmttalk -4:14 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger In my org I am both - it is tough but reality of our size @nickcoster Do we assumethat the PM and ProdOwner are 2 diff people #prodmgmttalk -4:14 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Absolutely not acc to @lancedkninght RT @VFigatelix - we have 2 b experts in #agile 2be a customer? #prodmgmttalk -4:15 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash @nickcoster no, I think PO is just one of many roles a PM has. Should be same personexcept perhaps in large co #prodmgmttalk -4:15 PM Jul 11th, 2011 4 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 5. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8wapolanco Some orgs have a business analyst in #agile who plays the role of prod owner. Furtherclarifies reqs, manages comm, documents. #prodmgmttalk -4:16 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay A1 PO: on business side & responsible for P&L and/or UX, PM mgmt of discs & decs betwtech stakeh.& bus. stakeholders #prodmgmttalk -4:16 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @imusicmash Product owner has a lot of day-to-day tactical responsibilities.#prodmgmttalk -4:16 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash RT @ErikaLAndersen Product owner single wringable neck of project, prioritizesrequirements... See http://bit.ly/AvDJ #prodmgmttalk -4:16 PM Jul 11th, 2011accept360 Great discussion - ProdOwner/ProdMngr on #prodmgmttalk -http://bit.ly/pYa8yx #prodmgmt #agile #prodmgmttalk -4:16 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk @imusicmash A PO needs to be available for prioritization but Prod M needs to be out ofthe office seeking customer input #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco @imusicmash @nickcoster Size of the org shouldnt matter. Ideally should be two diffpeople #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Q2 If a product manager is acting like a product owner in scrum, do they have time tointerview customers? #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @imusicmash Possible to also perform the strategic responsibilities of #prodmgmt, but demanding oftime. #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster imho ProdManager and ProdOwner Should be 2 diff people that work closely together. Justsaying. #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger @imusicmash I disagree it should be same role - POs must be more day2day where as PMscan spend significant time in the field #prodmgmttalk -4:17 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix RT @nickcoster: Do we always assume that the ProdManager and ProdOwner are 2 diffpeople? #prodmgmttalk -4:18 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates Agree but its an ideal RT @wapolanco: @imusicmash @nickcoster Size of org shouldnt matter.Ideally should be two diff people #prodmgmttalk -4:18 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin Q2: As I mentioned previously, PO is tactical, #prodmgmt more strategic. Time consuming toperform both roles. #prodmgmttalk -4:18 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon RT @rcauvin: Q2: As I mentioned previously, PO is tactical,#prodmgmt more strategic. Timeconsuming to perform both roles.#prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay @wapolanco @imusicmash @nickcoster But practically it will usually be one person with twohats. #prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash Has anyone seen the role of a business analyst or jr. owner as go-between PO andengineering? #prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jul 11th, 2011 5 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 6. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight A2 Prod Manager should be out in the field searching for next featuresto drive revenue #prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster RT @rcauvin: Q2: As I mentioned previously, PO is tactical, #prodmgmt more strategic. Timeconsuming to perform both roles. #prodmgmttalk -4:19 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Acc to @lancedknight A2 Prod Manager should be out in field searchingfor next features to drive revenue #prodmgmttalk -4:20 PM Jul 11th, 2011accept360 RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Acc to @lancedknight A2 Prod Manager should be out in the field searchingfor next features to drive revenue #prodmgmttalk -4:20 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk No acc to Lance RT @imusicmash: Has anyone seen the role of a business analyst or jr. owneras go-between PO and engineering? #prodmgmttalk -4:21 PM Jul 11th, 2011Ycnt_ibdonlyjen +1 RT @nickcoster: imho ProdManager and ProdOwner Should be 2 diff people that workclosely together. Just saying. #prodmgmttalk -4:21 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster I think of this like Officer and NCO (ie sergeant) in the Military. Shared objectives but differentfocus. #prodmgmttalk -4:22 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Moving on: Q3 If you believe product owners should not be the product manager- then whoshould be? #prodmgmttalk -4:22 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash A2 customer interviewer is just another PM role, just like POis, we wear many hats:) #prodmgmttalk -4:22 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger A2: As someone doing both PO & PM I sacrifice 2b in the field as much as possible or else Icant set accurate priorities #prodmgmttalk -4:22 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco A2: Difficult to succeed @ both roles. Orgs save $ w/one body but at what cost? If 1 person, thenreduce prod scope. #prodmgmttalk -4:22 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight A3: Either a full time analyst or a junior / assoc product managershould be PO #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin RT @StacyLeidwinger: A2: As someone doing both PO & PM I sacrifice 2b in field or else I cant setaccurate priorities #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @wapolanco: A2: Difficult to succeed @ both roles. Orgs save $ w/1 body but what cost?If 1 person, then reduce prod scope. #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates +2 RT @Ycnt_ibdonlyjen: +1 RT @nickcoster: imho ProdManager and ProdOwner Should be 2diff people that work closely together. #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jul 11th, 2011charlieoliver Fantastic discussion in this weeks #prodmgmttalk, if you havent already, check itout! #prodmgmttalk -4:23 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Moving on: Q3 If you believe product owners should not be the product manager- then whoshould be? #prodmgmttalk -4:24 PM Jul 11th, 2011 6 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 7. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8MacMyDay @nickcoster Anyone with military #prodmgmt experience here? ;)#prodmgmttalk -4:24 PM Jul 11th,2011accept360 RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Acc to @lancedknight A3: Either a full time analyst or a junior / assocproduct manager should be PO #prodmgmttalk -4:24 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Welcome @charlieoliver! #prodmgmttalk -4:24 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger A3: PO is a new role, jr PMs willing to spend more time with dev or someone with a BAbackground could qualify #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster @MacMyDay @nickcoster Sydney University Regiment 1991 #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @accept360: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Acc to @lancedknight A3: Either full time analyst or ajr/assoc product manager should be PO #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco Q3 = Funny... "exact role" ;-) #prodmgmttalk -4:25 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster A3) If you are going agile then staff the dedicated role. Dont be half agile.#prodmgmttalk -4:25PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Acc to @lancedknight Either a full time analyst or a junior / assoc productmanager should be Product Owner #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Could a Product Owner come from engineering with project management muscles (tacticaldetails)? #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @nickcoster: A3) If you are going agile then staff the dedicated role. Dont be halfagile. #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jul 11th, 2011simplybastow @ProdMgmtTalk Role of prod mgr in Scrum is communicating priorities and requirements.Asking and answering the right questions #prodmgmttalk -4:26 PM Jul 11th, 2011charlieoliver @cindyfsolomon Thanks for the welcome, sorry Im late!#prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011accept360 can you be 1/2 #agile? #prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin A3: #prodmgmt should have talent for leadership, acquisitive & emergent learning, andteaching. #prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix RT @wapolanco: A2: Difficult to succeed @ both roles. Orgs save $ w/one body but at what cost?If 1 person, then reduce prod scope. #prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon A3) Ive heard it referred to as "Scrum, but" (butt) to do scrum, but notreally.... #prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011charlieoliver RT @rcauvin: A3: #prodmgmt should have talent for leadership, acquisitive & emergentlearning, and teaching. #prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk what is 1/2 agile? RT @nickcoster: If you are going agile then staff the dedicated role. Dontbe half agile. #prodmgmttalk -4:27 PM Jul 11th, 2011 7 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 8. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8nickcoster A3) (cont) otherwise it is like running a 4 man relay with 3 people. You can do it but if wont beeffective. #prodmgmttalk -4:28 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay @StacyLeidwinger I would agree that PO needs at least a BA background (resp for P&L), but alsoPM insight (resp for UX) #prodmgmttalk -4:28 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger If they have an eye for business & cust needs @cindyfsolomon Can a Product Owner comefrom engineering with proj mgm muscles? #prodmgmttalk -4:28 PM Jul 11th, 2011wapolanco A3: PM requires a different mix of skills: Sales, Mktg, Be a visionary and strategicthinking. #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger Agreed! RT @MacMyDay I would agree that PO needs at least a BA background (resp forP&L), but also PM insight (resp for UX) #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon @lancedknight A3) everybody wants their PRD requirements documents process before theystart going into agile (guarantees ...)#prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin A3: Great #prodmgmt can come from any background as long as she possesses theleadership/learning/teaching talents. #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jul 11th, 2011Ycnt_ibdonlyjen A3: a dev or ba or someone tech respects who wants to move to PM#prodmgmttalk -4:29 PMJul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @StacyLeidwinger: If they have an eye for biz & cust needs@cindyfsolomon Can PO comefrom engineering w/ proj mgm muscles? #prodmgmttalk -4:29 PM Jul 11th, 2011simplybastow +1, yet oft the same in small teams RT @rcauvin Product owner is not the same roleas #prodmgmt role, though there is overlap. #prodmgmttalk -4:30 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @rcauvin: reat #prodmgmt can come from any background as long as she possesses theleadership/learning/teaching talents. #prodmgmttalk -4:30 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix @Ycnt_ibdonlyjen hi sweety! What is IMO? #prodmgmttalk -4:30 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan PO shd be part of #prodmgmt team, can be part of Tech. PM responsibilities. #prodmgmttalk -4:30 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon @nickmuldoon - join us now debating Scrum Product Owner vs. productmanager #prodmgmttalk -4:30 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster @VFigatelix In My Opinion = IMO #prodmgmttalk -4:31 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon @simplybastow @rcauvin Yes, there are some overlaps but PMs should not be running userstories (from @lancedknight) #prodmgmttalk -4:31 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay @cindyfsolomon Can, yes, but also needs to understand and own business side ofproduct #prodmgmttalk -4:31 PM Jul 11th, 2011StewartRogers Anyone on team can write stories. RT @ProdMgmtTalk: @lancedknight - Product Managersshould not be writing user stories. The PO should be 8 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 9. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8ErikaLAndersen RT @brainmates: RT @rcauvin: Grt #prodmgmt come fr any background as long as shepossess the ldrshp/learning/teaching talents. #prodmgmttalk -4:32 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight Product Managers should be managing features#prodmgmttalk -4:32 PMJul 11th, 2011wapolanco RT @MacMyDay: @cindyfsolomon Can, yes, but also needs to understand and own business sideof product #prodmgmttalk -4:33 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight #prodmgmt should be identifying/managing prospect problems, notfeatures! #prodmgmttalk -4:33 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Acc to @lancedknight A feature is something more than just requirements: Product managersshould be managing features #prodmgmttalk -4:33 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight I think #prodmgmt should be solving user needs via productfeatures that create value to market. #prodmgmttalk -4:33 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen +1 RT @rcauvin: @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight #prodmgmt should beidentifying/managing prospect problems, not features! #prodmgmttalk -4:33 PM Jul 11th, 2011jidoctor RT @rcauvin @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight #prodmgmt should be identifying/managing prospectproblems, not features! #prodmgmttalk YES! -4:33 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickmuldoon I see the PO as a facilitator not just a conduit. The team needs to communicate with thecustomer to understand. #prodmgmttalk -4:34 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin RT @nickmuldoon: I see the PO as a facilitator not just a conduit. Team needs to communicate withthe customer to understand. #prodmgmttalk -4:34 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster RT @nickmuldoon: I see the PO as a facilitator not just a conduit. The team needs tocommunicate with the customer to understand. #prodmgmttalk -4:34 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Welcome @jidoctor (Premier female speaker next week re: The Value of ProductMarketing) #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jul 11th, 2011simplybastow @cindyfsolomon You dont think so? Am doing it wrong then ;) (coming from a startup,however) cc: @rcauvin @lancedknight #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger RT @rcauvin @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight should be identifying/managing prospectproblems, not features! #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jul 11th, 2011charlieoliver I like it! RT @rcauvin: A3: #prodmgmt should have talent for leadership, acquisitive & emergentlearning, and teaching. #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Welcome @nickmuldoon! #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @nickmuldoon Good point. #prodmgmt as single point of contact w/ prospects is not necessarily thebest model. #prodmgmttalk -4:35 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon [some skype technical issues - bear with us getting responses from @lancedknight to yourquestions & statements] #prodmgmttalk -4:36 PM Jul 11th, 2011 9 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 10. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8VFigatelix @Ycnt_ibdonlyjen @nickcoster #prodmgmttalk @rcauvin IMO Im learning a lot! Txs -4:36 PM Jul11th, 2011jidoctor #ProdMgmtTalk if the PO is in tech team, then need to defer tro PM as comm vehicle & prob solver,IMHO -4:36 PM Jul 11th, 2011simplybastow @cindyfsolomon @saeedwkhan Thanks, and hi all :)#prodmgmttalk -4:36 PM Jul 11th, 2011charlieoliver @VFigatelix @Ycnt_ibdonlyjen @nickcoster @rcauvin Aint technology grand! Ive learned somuch via these talks! #prodmgmttalk -4:36 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger I think all good points for PMs, but I struggle on how POs bring customer voice 2 #agile ifnot they r not the PM #prodmgmttalk -4:37 PM Jul 11th, 2011jidoctor #ProdMgmtTalk and PM is primary comm driver not PO -4:37 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickmuldoon @saeedwkhan agreed, the PO can still be a product manager. They will be wearing a number ofhats whatever VP they report to. #prodmgmttalk -4:37 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay Ideally: yes, practically? @simplybastow @rcauvin @lancedknight Yes there are sme overlaps butPMs should not run user stories #prodmgmttalk -4:37 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight Prod Managers work with prospects & customers 2 identify features -Afeature is more than a requirement. #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan PO is really Backlog Manager for Scrum team. Name is complete misnomer.#prodmgmttalk -4:38PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen +1 RT @charlieoliver: @rcauvin Aint technology grand! Ive learned so much via thesetalks! #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger If PMs dont run user stories how do u confirm stories match customerneeds @lancedknight PMs should not run user stories #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Agree acc to @lancedknight RT @saeedwkhan: PO is really Backlog Manager for Scrum team.Name is complete misnomer. #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Indeed! RT @saeedwkhan: PO is really Backlog Manager for Scrum team. Name is completemisnomer. #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @saeedwkhan: PO is really Backlog Manager for Scrum team. Name is completemisnomer. #prodmgmttalk -4:38 PM Jul 11th, 2011Ycnt_ibdonlyjen thx nick! :) RT @nickcoster: @VFigatelix In My Opinion = IMO#prodmgmttalk" -4:38 PM Jul11th, 2011rcauvin @saeedwkhan PO owns the product from the point of view of backlog management. #prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster In sport we always field a full team with defined positions. Why is it so hard inbusiness? #prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jul 11th, 2011 10 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 11. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8rcauvin @saeedwkhan Does not own the product from many other points of view.#prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jul11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Moving on: Q4 What is the exact role of a product owner in the scrum process? (afteranswering @StacyLeidwinger quest) #prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan Need to differentiate role of PO with titles of those best fit to do it.#prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jul11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @cindyfsolomon: Indeed! RT @saeedwkhan: PO is really Backlog Manager for Scrumteam. Name is complete misnomer. #prodmgmttalk -4:39 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickmuldoon @nickcoster sport analogy doesnt hold, the halfback will sometimes jump in thelineout. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalk -4:40 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger We dont have a full roster budget @nickcoster In sport we always field a team of definedpositions. Why so hard in business #prodmgmttalk -4:40 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk PMs should not write stories RT @StacyLeidwinger: If PMs dont run user stories how do uconfirm stories match customer needs #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jul 11th, 2011charlieoliver @ProdMgmtTalk What do you mean by backlog? (cc @StacyLeidwinger)#prodmgmttalk -4:41 PMJul 11th, 2011wapolanco PM should manage Themes, Epics. PO/BA should manage Stories, Spikes#agile #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @saeedwkhan In a healthy org, there really is no single person who owns the product. The teamowns it. #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk PMs should review user stories RT @StacyLeidwinger: If PMs dont run user stories how do uconfirm stories match customer needs #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan @rcauvin Agreed. PO owns backlog mgmt and not product. Thus name of role is wrong. Shd beBacklog Mgr or Backlog Owner. #prodmgmttalk -4:41 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger Ok agreed. So by "run" you mean write & define but PMs still review &adjust @ProdMgmtTalk By reviewing backlog #prodmgmttalk -4:42 PM Jul 11th, 2011jidoctor @nickcoster #ProdMgmtTalk - hard in bi because of perceived "power" by ownership -4:42 PM Jul11th, 2011nickcoster @nickmuldoon Teams can adapt to change, but half a team is planning to lose before youstart. #prodmgmttalk -4:42 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger RT @rcauvin @saeedwkhan In a healthy org, there really is no single person who owns theproduct. The team owns it. #prodmgmttalk -4:42 PM Jul 11th, 2011StewartRogers RT @rcauvin: @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight #prodmgmt should be identifying/managingprospect problems, not features! #prodmgmttalk -4:42 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan @rcauvin we are in agreement on ownership #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jul 11th, 2011 11 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 12. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8jidoctor RT @rcauvin: @saeedwkhan In a healthy org, there really is no single person who owns the product.The team owns it. #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Agree @StacyLeidwinger: So by "run" you mean write & define but PMs still review &adjust @ProdMgmtTalk By reviewing backlog #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jul 11th, 2011StewartRogers Yeah! RT @saeedwkhan: PO is really Backlog Manager for Scrum team. Name is completemisnomer. #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Welcome @StewartRogers (all the greats present today!)#prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jul 11th, 2011Ycnt_ibdonlyjen RT @rcauvin: @saeedwkhan PO owns the product from the point of view of backlogmanagement. #prodmgmttalk -4:43 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash Had to step away to groom a story for engineering :) #prodmgmttalk -4:44 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger Backlog mgr sounds too project mgmt focus - POs still needs business eye to set prioritieson what is MOST valuable to work on #prodmgmttalk -4:45 PM Jul 11th, 2011jidoctor RT @imusicmash Had to step away to groom a story for engineering :)#prodmgmttalk LOL! -4:45 PMJul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Yes @StewartRogers Acc to @lancedknight :prospect problems become feature/epicstories #prodmgmttalk -4:45 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix @rcauvin @ProdMgmtTalk @lancedknight but PM needs 2 have an opinion onfeatures #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster I see backlog grooming as the Activity of the PO, but the Goal is to ensure business priorities aremet by Agile Project #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Reposting Q4 What is the exact role of a product owner in the scrumprocess? #prodmgmttalk -4:46 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger RT @nickcoster backlog grooming as the Activity of the PO, but the Goal is 2 ensure bizpriorities are met by Agile Project #prodmgmttalk -4:47 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Q5: What are the downfalls of the product owner and product manager being one andthe same? #prodmgmttalk -4:47 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @nickcoster: I see backlog grooming as Activity of PO, but Goal is to ensure businesspriorities are met by Agile Project #prodmgmttalk -4:48 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @VFigatelix Opinion on features is fine, but features encroach into design, which isnot #prodmgmt focus. #prodmgmttalk -4:48 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan @rcauvin we are in agreement on ownership (or lack thereof)#prodmgmttalk -4:48 PM Jul 11th,2011nickcoster A5) That person will only be able to give full focus to one role at a time. The other role will sufferor both will. #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jul 11th, 2011 12 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 13. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8nickmuldoon @ProdMgmtTalk You can easily be pulled in two different directions when wearing the PM andPO hat. Sales vs CSat for instance. #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger A5: As both stuck in day2day and focus too much on what is possible 2do not whatcustomers want solution 2do #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Acc to @lancedknight the Product Manager (my interpretation) both roles important, productmanager higher status.... #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash A4 PO serves the scrum master by preparing the backlog, getting obstacles out of the way,simplifying #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @nickcoster: A5) While focused on Project, you lose sight of market changes that may makethe product irrelevant. #prodmgmttalk -4:51 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk A5: Acc to @lancedknight If PM & PO same role will have a lack of customerfocus. #prodmgmttalk -4:49 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Acc to @lancedknight - we all get it as product managers - we dont need to get toQ6 #prodmgmttalk -4:50 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk 10 minutes left to our weekly discussion. #prodmgmttalk -4:50 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster A5) While focused on Project, you lose sight of market changes that may make the productirrelevant. #prodmgmttalk -4:50 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan @stacyleidwinger Im open to suggestions for a better title but Product Owner has togo. #prodmgmttalk -4:50 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @nickcoster: A5) While focused on Project, you lose sight of market changes that maymake the product irrelevant. #prodmgmttalk -4:50 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @nickcoster: A5) While focused on Project, you lose sight of market changes that may makethe product irrelevant. #prodmgmttalk -4:51 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger +1 RT @nickcoster While focused on Project, you lose sight of market changes that maymake the prod irrelevant #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay Yep and P&L @StacyLeidwinger POs still need business eye to set priorities#prodmgmttalk -4:52PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin A5: Risk of strategy vacuum or uninformed strategy, or risk of day-to-day execution getting short-changed. #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Disagree acc to lance - term so widely used @saeedwkhan@stacyleidwinger - Product Ownertitle has to go. #prodmgmttalk -4:52 PM Jul 11th, 2011jidoctor Interesting how we all agree that we need both PO & PM roles, but cant agree on name and/orresponsibility lines. #ProdMgmtTalk -4:53 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight POs should not have P&L responsibility. Product Managersshould #prodmgmttalk -4:54 PM Jul 11th, 2011 13 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 14. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8ErikaLAndersen RT @jidoctor: Interesting how we all agree we need both PO & PM roles, but cant agree on nameand/or responsibility lines. #prodmgmttalk -4:54 PM Jul 11th, 2011brainmates RT @jidoctor: Interesting how we all agree that we need both PO & PM roles, but cant agree on name&/or responsibility lines. #prodmgmttalk -4:54 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin Missing from this discussion: how #prodmgmt & PO must coordinate for iterative feedback loops thatinform requirements.#prodmgmttalk -4:55 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Acc to @lancedknight - Each company needs to find their ownway... @ErikaLAndersen @jidoctor #prodmgmttalk -4:55 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickmuldoon RT @rcauvin: @nickmuldoon Good point. #prodmgmt as single point of contact w/ prospects is notnecessarily the best model. #prodmgmttalk -4:57 PM Jul 11th, 2011nickcoster RT @rcauvin: Missing from this discussion: how #prodmgmt & PO must coordinate for iterative feedbackloops that inform requirements. #prodmgmttalk -4:57 PM Jul 11th, 2011imusicmash Were hiring a PM (who can also be PO) reporting, analytics, data viz background a must. Please passon http://bit.ly/i9LqYM #prodmgmttalk -4:57 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Acc to @lancedknight re:@StacyLeidwinger Ken Schwaber, Scrum founder, disagree w/key to agileis 1 person & title has to go #prodmgmttalk -4:57 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger Agreed, it is hard why often same person @rcauvin Missing is how#prodmgmt & PO coordinateiterative feedback requirements #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Please blog about your insights to todays talk to be repostedathttp://www.prodmgmttalk.com #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011VFigatelix Have 2 dive out of this great talk! C u next week #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Thank you @lancedknight for an excellent debate today! Everyones participationappreciated! #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011StewartRogers Slide to easier tactical activities. RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Q5: What are the downfalls of the PO and PMbeing one and the same? #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011rcauvin @imusicmash Buckingham & Coffman say hire people based on talent, not so much forexperience. http://bit.ly/dAitdw #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Final words fr @lancedknight - This debate must continue... Each company needs to define this forthemsleves #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay @saeedwkhan @stacyleidwinger And Backlog Manager sounds a bit dodgy + might not really say allabout the role #prodmgmttalk -4:58 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Join us next week for our premier female speaker: Jennifer Doctor@jidoctor on The Value ofProduct Marketing #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Happy to announce #PCampUtah on Sept 10, 2011http://pcamputah.org #prodmgmttalk -4:59PM Jul 11th, 2011 14 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk
  • 15. Transcript from July 11/12, 2011 Debate! Product Management vs. Scrum Product Ownership Global Product Management Talk with Lance Knight http://www.prodmgmttalk Subscribe: http://bit.ly/ouZN8J FB: http://on.fb.me/ncKUD8cindyfsolomon Join me on Google+ for Global Product Management Talk Circle & trying out videochat #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jul 11th, 2011StacyLeidwinger RT @ProdMgmtTalk Final words fr @lancedknight - This debate must continue... Eachcompany needs to define this for themsleves #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jul 11th, 2011cindyfsolomon Unedited transcript available immediately athttp://bit.ly/pnF8SG #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jul11th, 2011rcauvin RT @cindyfsolomon: Join us next week for our premier female speaker: Jennifer Doctor @jidoctor onThe Value of #prodmktg #prodmgmttalk -4:59 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen RT @cindyfsolomon: Join us next week for our premier female speaker: JenniferDoctor @jidoctor The Value of Product Marketing #prodmgmttalk -5:00 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Plug in for Product Camp Melbourne 20 August2011http://pcampmelbourne.com/ #pcampmelb #prodmgmttalk -5:00 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan @stacyleidwinger bcuz 1 person almost never owns priorities. Scrum needs to acknowledgethat. PO is a bad role title #prodmgmttalk -5:01 PM Jul 11th, 2011MacMyDay @jidoctor Its probably because we all have different organisational setups, but yes itsinteresting #prodmgmttalk -5:01 PM Jul 11th, 2011ProdMgmtTalk Thanks guys. Great chat. Speak next week. #prodmgmttalk -5:01 PM Jul 11th, 2011ErikaLAndersen Thanks all! #prodmgmttalkcindyfsolomon Unedited transcript from todays talk (read from bottom up) July 11 transcriptcleaning http://bit.ly/pnF8SG #prodmgmttalk -5:05 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan @stacyleidwinger. See here http://tinyurl.com/3o7ujjr #prodmgmttalk -5:05 PM Jul 11th, 2011reorgco RT @rcauvin: @saeedwkhan In a healthy org, there really is no single person who owns the product.The team owns it. #prodmgmttalkcindyfsolomon Please blog about your insights from todays talk - summarize salient points from yourperspective or choose 1 issue & rant! #prodmgmttalk -5:08 PM Jul 11th, 2011reorgco RT @nickmuldoon: I see the PO as a facilitator not just a conduit. The team needs to communicatewith the customer to understand. #prodmgmttalk -5:09 PM Jul 11th, 2011saeedwkhan Thx all for good discussion and thx to @aircanada for delayed flight that let me participatein #prodmgmttalk gotta go board now! -5:12 PM Jul 11th, 2011285 tweets 15 Doocuments.com makes sending and receiving VIP documents easy, secure and trustworthy. https://service.doocuments.com/Doocuments/register-on-doocuments.xhtml code: prodmgmttalk