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Global Product Management Talk on twitter with Roger Cauvin transcript from Feb 28,2011 twitter talk http://www.prodmgmttalk.com

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  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time10:49 sehlhorst: RT @rcauvin: Exactly fifteen minutes until my #prodmgmttalk on #innovation &pm #prodmgmt begins. Info at http://bit.ly/eSrao9. #prodmgmttalk10:49 cindyfsolomon: Lurkers please join us - dont be afraid! Product Management people are friendly - its professionalpm survival technique! #prodmgmttalk10:49 brainmates: Hello to everyone joining us for @rcauvin discusison #innovation #prodmgmttalkpm10:50 cindyfsolomon: Welcome @sehlhorst ! joining us on skype? Questions for today: http://on.fb.me/dF6V1A withpm @rcauving re: Innovation #prodmgmttalk10:52 cindyfsolomon: Join Todays discussion in 10 minutes: #Innovation is Just Good Productpm Managementhttp://on.fb.me/dF6V1A #prodmgmt #prodmrktg #prodmgmttalk10:57 ProdMgmtTalk: Setting up skype in background w @brainmates @sehlhorst and @rcauvin - we talk whilepm tweeting - multitasking! #prodmgmttalk10:57 ProdMgmtTalk: 3 Minute countdown to beginning of todays discussion with @rcauvin on #innovation andpm #prodmgmt#prodmgmttalk10:59 ProdMgmtTalk: Questions: http://on.fb.me/dF6V1A Innovation is Just Good Product Management starting in 2pm minutes! working out technicalities #prodmgmttalk10:59 stacymonarko: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: 3 Minute countdown to beginning of todays discussion with @rcauvin onpm #innovation and #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk11:00 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @stacymonarko! #prodmgmttalkpm11:00 ProdMgmtTalk: Ta da!!! Drum roll!!!! the time has come for our 4th weekly Global Product Management Talkpm #prodmgmttalk11:01 ProdMgmtTalk: Everyone welcome! Please introduce yourself, where youre tweeting from & whatever else youdpm like to tell us in 140 or less #prodmgmttalk11:01 rcauvin: Hi everyone participating in this #prodmgmttalk!pm11:01 brainmates: Hi @stacymonarko. Thanks for joining us. #prodmgmttalkpm11:02 ProdMgmtTalk: Hi Roger @rcauvin - not hearing you on skype - please introduce yourself to everyone!pm #prodmgmttalk11:02 stacymonarko: Hi gang! #prodmgmttalkpm11:02 sehlhorst: Hey, @rcauvin ! Scott here, from the other side of Austin - excited about your topic today!pm #prodmgmttalk11:02 brainmates: I am Adrienne. A Product Management consultant from Sydney. Its a muggy day here! 1 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm #prodmgmttalk11:02 rcauvin: Im Roger L. Cauvin, a product strategist in Austin, Texas. #prodmgmttalkpm11:03 Rich_Velazquez: Looking forward to the discussion on innovation RT @ProdMgmtTalk The time has come, 4thpm weekly Global Product Management Talk #prodmgmttalk11:03 brainmates: Who else has joined us? #prodmgmttalkpm11:03 paulalexgray: Hello #prodmgmttalkpm11:03 brainmates: @Rich_Velazquez @ProdMgmtTalk Hello Rich! Where do you come from? #prodmgmttalkpm11:03 roadmapwarrior: Jen from Kansas City area in US - PM in pharma/bioscience #prodmgmttalkpm11:03 erigentry: Im Eri, Community & Social Media Manager @genomera, in Mountain View, CApm #prodmgmttalk11:04 brainmates: @paulalexgray Hey Paul! Thanks for joining! #prodmgmttalkpm11:04 cindyfsolomon: Im your co-host tweeting from San Francisco; certified product manager, certified productpm marketer, social media enthusiast #prodmgmttalk11:04 brainmates: @roadmapwarrior Yeah! you are here. Welcome #prodmgmttalkpm11:04 sehlhorst: @Jim_Holland brutal - you still show up for me, but not in tweetchat #prodmgmttalkpm11:04 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcomepm @Rich_Velazquez @erigentry @roadmapwarrior @paulaexgray @brainmates #prodmgmttalk11:04 brainmates: @erigentry @genomera Welcome to our weekly talk about all things #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:05 stacymonarko: Hi everyone! Im Stacy, Product Manager for @Vivisimo_inc In Pittsburgh #prodmgmttalkpm11:05 Rich_Velazquez: @brainmates Hello Brainmates. Im the Sr. Global Product Manager for #Xbox atpm #Microsoft#prodmgmttalk11:05 brainmates: Anyone else from Australia? #prodmgmttalkpm11:05 ErikaLAndersen: Erika from the Wasatch Front of the Rockies, recovering nicely from my Dads 70th birthdaypm festivities #prodmgmttalk 2 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:05 brainmates: @Rich_Velazquez Are you in Sydney? #prodmgmttalkpm11:05 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk Hi Product-Management-Talkers #prodmgmttalkpm11:05 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @Jim_Holland although we cant see you - #prodmgmttalkpm11:05 brainmates: @ErikaLAndersen Hello! Welcome to our talk #prodmgmttalkpm11:06 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @ErikaLAndersen Happy birthday to your dad! What commitment on your part to bepm here! #prodmgmttalk11:06 Brioneja: @brainmates Jose Briones, parallel entrepreneur. #prodmgmttalkpm11:06 brainmates: @Macmyday Thanks for joining. Where are you? #prodmgmttalkpm11:06 Rich_Velazquez: No, Im in Redmond, Washington, USA. RT @brainmates: @Rich_Velazquez Are you inpm Sydney? #prodmgmttalk11:06 brainmates: @Rich_Velazquez Yes I am in Sydney. #prodmgmttalkpm11:06 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @Macmyday were spending time introducing ourselves before getting down to the bizpm of innovation #prodmgmttalk11:07 brainmates: @Brioneja Welcome! Thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:07 sehlhorst: @Brioneja hey Jose! great to see you here. perfect topic for you :) #prodmgmttalkpm11:07 kseniacoffman: @cindyfsolomon Checking out the chat - what is the topic today? #prodmgmttalk By way of intro,pm I manage marketing for @firetide11:08 brainmates: @kseniacoffman @cindyfsolomon @firetide Innovation is Just Good Product Managementpm #prodmgmttalk11:08 ProdMgmtTalk: Our questions are here: http://on.fb.me/dF6V1A Innovation is good product managementpm #prodmgmttalk11:08 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @kseniacoffman @firetide and live audience here in SF Bay #prodmgmttalkpm11:09 Brioneja: @sehlhorst Thanks! looking forward to more active participation in prodmgmttalk #prodmgmttalkpm11:09 ProdMgmtTalk: Starting off w/Q1 Are product managers innovators or innovation enablers? #prodmgmttalk 3 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm11:10 piplzchoice: #prodmgmttalk Hello everyonepm11:10 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk Tweeting from Sydney (OZ) from 10th floor of "legal content-enabledpm workflow solutions provider" #prodmgmttalk11:11 brainmates: Product Managers are both! They innovate when they seek new problems to solve. They rpm enablers when kick off prod dev process #prodmgmttalk11:11 paulalexgray: I say prod managers are innovation enablers. They touch all parts of biz. Their customer focuspm help drive multiple innovations #prodmgmttalk11:11 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @piplzchoice #prodmgmttalkpm11:11 rcauvin: In my opinion, #prodmgmt both innovates and enables others to innovate. #prodmgmttalkpm11:11 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Starting off w/Q1 Are product managers innovators or innovation enablers?pm #prodmgmttalk11:12 stacymonarko: They MUST be an enabler, even better if they are innovative as well. #prodmgmttalkpm11:12 brainmates: @Macmyday Welcome! Were tweeting from Pitt Street #prodmgmttalkpm11:12 rcauvin: #prodmgmt innovates when it synthesizes market data into new insights that drive productpm decisions. #prodmgmttalk11:12 brainmates: @piplzchoice Welcome to our weekly chat #prodmgmttalkpm11:12 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk I think they should be both, innovators and enablers. When it comes topm #innovationnoone should step back. #prodmgmttalk11:12 cindyfsolomon: Are product managers innovators or innovation enablers? #prodmgmttalk good question! For me,pm it depends on product lifecycle11:12 rcauvin: #prodmgmt fosters innovation by communicating market problems to those who can design andpm build solutions. #prodmgmttalk11:12 sehlhorst: @brainmates agreed - enablers when making it happen and innovators when connecting the dotspm conceptually. imo #prodmgmttalk11:12 stacymonarko: RT @rcauvin: #prodmgmt innovates when it synthesizes market data into new insights that drivepm product decisions. #prodmgmttalk11:12 Brioneja: A common definition is that to achieve innovation you need the right culture, people and processpm #prodmgmttalk 4 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:12 brainmates: RT @Macmyday: I think they should be both, innovators and enablers. When it comes topm #innovationnoone should step back.Agree! #prodmgmttalk11:13 Rich_Velazquez: Whether Product Mgrs are innovators or innovation enablers depends on the organization & sizepm of your group. I have been both #prodmgmttalk11:13 sehlhorst: @cindyfsolomon why depending on lifecycle? seems like innovation can happen at any stagepm (possibly resetting the lifecycle) #prodmgmttalk11:13 cindyfsolomon: Shall we define innovation for different times in the product lifecycle? #prodmgmttalkpm11:13 Brioneja: I see the product manager as the primary individual leading the innovation process #prodmgmttalkpm11:13 sehlhorst: @rcauvin do you use clayton christensens sustaining vs disruptive innovation model?pm #prodmgmttalk11:13 Brioneja: and as an influencer in the culture and people #prodmgmttalkpm11:13 michaelrhopkin: Joining the #prodmgmttalk conversation today from Utahpm11:14 piplzchoice: @brainmates @ProdMgmtTalk Thank you #prodmgmttalkpm11:14 roadmapwarrior: if #prodmgmt uses mkt problems to get to #innovation (e.g., #pragmatic frwk) then yespm #prodmgmttalk11:14 stacymonarko: @Brioneja Not always the case though as you may have developers that live outside the boxpm #prodmgmttalk11:14 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @michaelrhopkin ! Discussing Q1 Are product managers innovators or innovationpm enablers? #prodmgmttalk11:14 rcauvin: @sehlhorst Familiar w/ the distinction but not w/ Clayton Christensen. #prodmgmttalkpm11:15 Rich_Velazquez: Additionally some orgs have a Product Planning role which precedes Product Managers, movingpm them to an innovation enabler role #prodmgmttalk11:15 roadmapwarrior: anyone know a good way to explain diffs between #innovation and #creativity with the org?pm #prodmgmttalk11:15 ProdMgmtTalk: .@rcauvin http://www.claytonchristensen.com/ Disrupting Class and The Innovators Prescriptionpm #prodmgmttalk11:15 brainmates: @roadmapwarrior Not sure if I am right. But I use the terms interchageably #prodmgmttalkpm11:15 ErikaLAndersen: I would think both - product managers should be creative enough to innovate, open-minded 5 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm enough to enable innovation #prodmgmttalk11:16 Brioneja: @stacymonarko There are always situations where you can be both. But in the end we must definepm a primary responsibility #prodmgmttalk11:16 sehlhorst: @rcauvin _innovators dilemma_, _innovators solution_, and _whats next_ (or something likepm that) #prodmgmttalk11:16 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Rich_Velazquez: Additionally some orgs have Product Planning role precedes PMans,pm moving them to innovation enabler role #prodmgmttalk11:16 brainmates: RT @Brioneja: There are always situations where you can be both. But in the end we must definepm a primary responsibility Why? #prodmgmttalk11:16 piplzchoice: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: .@rcauvin http://www.claytonchristensen.com/ Disrupting Class and Thepm Innovators Prescription #prodmgmttalk - good source11:17 sehlhorst: RT @Rich_Velazquez: + some orgs have prodPlanning role which precedes Product Managers,pm moving them to an innovation enabler #prodmgmttalk11:17 Brioneja: @brainmates Because as most on this discussion know, innovation is like herding cats. Leadershippm is critical #prodmgmttalk11:17 ProdMgmtTalk: from @rcauvin To what extent are PMs making creative/design decisions innovative? Role PM:pm strategic design OR market insight? #prodmgmttalk11:18 brainmates: I think #innovation can happen anywhere in the #prodmgmt cycle #prodmgmttalkpm11:18 sehlhorst: @Rich_Velazquez so - is that a dysfunctional org, where prodmgmt is an "order taker"?pm #prodmgmttalk11:19 ProdMgmtTalk: Big orgs have resources to separate out roles from planning, strategy, design, marketing & tacticalpm PMs #prodmgmttalk11:19 Macmyday: @roadmapwarrior I often hear #innovation being described as "doing things differently",pm obviously applies2 #creativity as well #prodmgmttalk11:19 brainmates: @Brioneja Dont disagree. But to put indv into specific roles & say that some cant innovatepm stiffles the org? #prodmgmttalk11:19 sehlhorst: RT @Brioneja: @brainmates Because as most on this discussion know, innovation is like herdingpm cats. Leadership is critical #prodmgmttalk11:19 stacymonarko: @ProdMgmtTalk @rcauvin Market insight. Knowing market & customer needs to then drivepm product development #prodmgmttalk11:20 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @sehlhorst: @Rich_Velazquez so - is that a dysfunctional org, where prodmgmt is an "orderpm taker"? #prodmgmttalk11:20 Brioneja: @brainmates I am not saying that a leader cannot innovate. I am saying he is not required to do sopm #prodmgmttalk 6 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:20 ProdMgmtTalk: moving on: Q2. What do great product managers do to innovate or foster innovation?pm #prodmgmttalk11:20 sehlhorst: @Brioneja agreed - depends on the goals of the org #prodmgmttalkpm11:21 CollinVanUden: RT @paulalexgray: I say prod managers are innovation enablers. They touch all parts of biz. Theirpm customer focus help drive multiple innovations #prodmgmttalk11:21 rcauvin: Interesting insight! RT @Brioneja: I am not saying that a leader cannot innovate. I am saying he ispm not required to do so #prodmgmttalk11:21 roadmapwarrior: @Macmyday agreed, but are all creative ideas #innovation? #prodmgmttalkpm11:21 ProdMgmtTalk: .@Brioneja are PMs in leadership roles with authority? #prodmgmttalkpm11:21 Brioneja: @brainmates The leader, however is responsible to coax the best out of the team, including bestpm ideas, best solutions #prodmgmttalk11:21 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @CollinVanUden #prodmgmttalkpm11:21 brainmates: @Brioneja Just to confirm that the leader = Product Manager? #prodmgmttalkpm11:22 brainmates: @CollinVanUden Hello and welcome to our talk #prodmgmttalkpm11:22 michaelrhopkin: @Brioneja I agree PMs should lead the innovation process; a key aspect is gaining trust of otherpm teams & getting their best #prodmgmttalk11:22 cindyfsolomon: @roadmapwarrior @Macmyday agreed, but are all creative ideas #innovation?pm #prodmgmttalk back to defining innovation11:22 Brioneja: @brainmates Yes, leader of the innovation process, from a team level all the way to a divisionpm level #prodmgmttalk11:22 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk In general yes, but only if culture is there. Noticed the more orgs are sayingpm theyre innovative, less theyre #prodmgmttalk11:23 roadmapwarrior: Q2: listen (to mkt, clients, internal, etc.), keep current on not only tech but conversationspm #prodmgmttalk11:23 Rich_Velazquez: @sehlhorst Not necessarily. Planning/Incubation identify technologies & focus areas. Prod. Mgrspm then identify how to leverage #prodmgmttalk11:23 stacymonarko: Q2: Ensure clear communication channels across the org. and must relay customer knowledge topm org. #prodmgmttalk11:23 sehlhorst: on Q2 - discover _natural_ matings of technology and valuable problems in the market, tell the 7 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm story internal (to get agmt) #prodmgmttalk11:23 tmztmobile: @rcauvin wow first #prodmgmttalk cool to see what the big boys/girls do and what productpm management is about11:23 rcauvin: @Brioneja Sounds like youre arguing that #prodmgmt *leads* innovation but doesnt necessarilypm do it. #prodmgmttalk11:23 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @michaelrhopkin: @Brioneja I agree PMs should lead innovation proc; key aspect is gainingpm trust of oth teams & getting best #prodmgmttalk11:23 rcauvin: Q2: True innovation comes from understanding the problem in solution-neutral terms.pm #prodmgmttalk#prodmgmt11:24 ProdMgmtTalk: Q2. What do great product managers do to innovate or foster innovation? all questionspm here:http://on.fb.me/dF6V1A #prodmgmttalk11:24 PGopalan: Just joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:24 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk PM needs to be across product and people. Needs to tap into peoples mind &pm ideas #prodmgmttalk11:24 Brioneja: @ProdMgmtTalk In my experience the PM leads by influencing, coaching, not by direct reportingpm authority. #prodmgmttalk11:24 sehlhorst: @roadmapwarrior agree - I would add discovers _unsolved_ problems in current market, andpm unserved _markets_ for current soln #prodmgmttalk11:24 Rich_Velazquez: #Microsoft #Kinect is a good example of this. Tech & Idea incubated thru internal team + MSR,pm brought to life by PPlnrs/PMgrs #prodmgmttalk11:24 rcauvin: So #prodmgmt first attempts to understand the problem thoroughly & communicate it topm designers. #prodmgmttalk11:24 brainmates: @PGopalan - Welcome. We are answering Q2 #prodmgmttalkpm11:24 cindyfsolomon: So how do you know if there is "real" innovation occurring? What results? #prodmgmttalkpm11:24 stacymonarko: Love it. RT @sehlhorst: on Q2 - discover _natural_ matings of tech & valuable probs in thepm market, tell the story internally #prodmgmttalk11:24 roadmapwarrior: amen RT @rcauvin: Q2: True innovation comes from understanding the problem in solution-pm neutral terms. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk11:24 VFigatelix: @roadmapwarrior "Creativity is thinking up new things. Innovation is doing new things"pm fromhttp://alturl.com/cqh8y #prodmgmttalk11:25 tmztmobile: @cindyfsolomon thanks for the invite :) Id jumped in with the last tweet before seeing your open-pm armed msg #prodmgmttalk 8 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:25 Brioneja: @rcauvin Well I would say that leading is doing. Furthermore, depending on team size the PMpm may have to get the "hands dirty" #prodmgmttalk11:25 sehlhorst: @rcauvin nor always first but definitely reqd to understand problems. also need to understandpm solns to innovate #prodmgmttalk11:25 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @stacymonarko: @sehlhorst: on Q2 discover natural matings of tech & valuable probs in thepm market, tell the story internally #prodmgmttalk11:25 brainmates: @tmztmobile Welcome! Thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:26 Macmyday: @cindyfsolomon @roadmapwarrior Yep, agree. Its about defining what is #creativity andpm #innovation. Not easy,but not restrictd #prodmgmttalk11:26 roadmapwarrior: interesting take @VFigatelix "Creativity is thinking up new things. Innovation is doing newpm things"http://alturl.com/cqh8y #prodmgmttalk11:26 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @brainmates: @tmztmobile Welcome! Thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:26 rcauvin: By framing the problem clearly, #prodmgmt enables designers to unleash their creativity & skills.pm #prodmgmttalk11:26 sehlhorst: @VFigatelix @roadmapwarrior my def: innovation = _valuable_ invention #prodmgmttalkpm11:26 brainmates: @Brioneja: They can do but not innovate? #prodmgmttalkpm11:26 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @roadmapwarrior @VFigatelix "Creativity is thinking up new things. Innovation is doingpm new things"http://alturl.com/cqh8y #prodmgmttalk11:26 barrypaquet: Just joining from Montreal --- RE: Q2 Synthesize & Lead #prodmgmttalkpm11:27 brainmates: RT @sehlhorst: @VFigatelix @roadmapwarrior my def: innovation = _valuable_ invention.pm Agree! #prodmgmttalk11:27 brainmates: @barrypaquet Hello and welcome! Thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:27 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @barrypaquet from Montreal! #prodmgmttalkpm11:27 michaelrhopkin: @rcauvin Solution-neutral is important, but dont get too bogged down in neutrality; at some pointpm you have to move #prodmgmttalk11:27 Brioneja: @brainmates The innovation process has a lot of tasks, not all "creative" or "innovative"pm #prodmgmttalk11:27 sehlhorst: Q2 variant: Share example of how you (helped) innovate... #prodmgmttalk 9 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm11:28 bdoctor: Barry from Minneapolis joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:28 Brioneja: @brainmates My definition of innovation is that it occurs at the intersection of invention andpm value #prodmgmttalk11:28 Macmyday: @VFigatelix I like that. #prodmgmttalkpm11:28 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @sehlhorst: Q2 variant: Share example of how you (helped) innovate... thats a NEWpm question...okay, branch...! #prodmgmttalk11:28 rcauvin: @michaelrhopkin Its primarily about enabling others to move (design & build), IMO!pm #prodmgmttalk11:28 sehlhorst: @bdoctor hey Barry! #prodmgmttalkpm11:28 roadmapwarrior: @sehlhorst I tend to agree but hard to judge value, esp. when companies like Apple seem to createpm need r/t solve problems #prodmgmttalk11:28 brainmates: @bdoctor - Welcome and thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:28 jeremyscully: RT @Brioneja: A common definition is that to achieve innovation you need the right culture,pm people and process #prodmgmttalk11:29 Rich_Velazquez: Good point. Constraints r necessary to guide innovation RT @rcauvin: framing problem enablespm designers to unleash creativity #prodmgmttalk11:29 Brioneja: @brainmates Not everybody who is on a development team can be an inventor or be someonepm who adds value to the product #prodmgmttalk11:29 brainmates: RT @Brioneja: @brainmates My definition of innovation is that it occurs at the intersection ofpm invention and value - Agree! #prodmgmttalk11:29 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @bdoctor from Minneapolis! Were on Q2. What do great product managers do topm innovate or foster innovation? #prodmgmttalk11:29 piplzchoice: @ProdMgmtTalk: "Creativity is thinking up new things.pm ..." http://alturl.com/cqh8y #prodmgmttalk This is an opinion, not definiton11:29 rcauvin: @VFigatelix Youre so retweetable :-) #prodmgmttalkpm11:29 sehlhorst: @michaelrhopkin @rcauvin I agree about soln neutral (re: #prodmgmt) I think of _innovation_ aspm combining soln with problem #prodmgmttalk11:29 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @jeremyscully! questions here: http://on.fb.me/dF6V1A discussing Q2 #prodmgmttalkpm 10 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:30 Macmyday: @sehlhorst Speaking out of my heart. Theres not enough invention with innovation.pm #prodmgmttalk11:30 brainmates: @jeremyscully Hi and welcome to our weekly chat on all things #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:30 ProdMgmtTalk: Are all product managers inherently retweetable?! #prodmgmttalkpm11:30 stacymonarko: @roadmapwarrior @sehlhorst I think Apples marketing creates the need! #prodmgmttalkpm11:30 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Macmyday: @sehlhorst Speaking out of my heart. Theres not enough invention withpm innovation. #prodmgmttalk11:30 michaelrhopkin: @rcauvin I see; yes, if you go about it to enable the other teams to move youre spot-onpm #prodmgmttalk11:30 PGopalan: @rcauvin for Q2: by tapping collective consciousness #prodmgmttalkpm11:30 Brioneja: @brainmates someone needs to do the hitting the pavement tasks: Surveys, rankings, analysispm #prodmgmttalk11:30 sehlhorst: @Macmyday have hope! #prodmgmttalkpm11:30 rcauvin: RT @PGopalan: @rcauvin for Q2: by tapping collective consciousness #prodmgmttalkpm11:31 roadmapwarrior: If theyre not in #prodmgmttalk, then no :) @ProdMgmtTalk: Are all product managers inherentlypm retweetable?! #prodmgmttalk11:31 brainmates: @PGopalan How do you do that? #prodmgmttalkpm11:31 cindyfsolomon: re: Apples marketing - is it innovative to create a need? or arrogant if a PM suggests it?pm #prodmgmttalk11:31 barrypaquet: PMs need vision, not necessarily the answers --- and thats OK. #prodmgmttalkpm11:31 rcauvin: Peter Drucker speaks of "purposeful", systematic innovation. #prodmgmt is a big part ofpm systematizing innovation. #prodmgmttalk11:31 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @PGopalan #prodmgmttalkpm11:32 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @rcauvin: Peter Drucker speaks of "purposeful", systematic innovation. #prodmgmt is a bigpm part of systematizing innovation. #prodmgmttalk11:32 JanelleTNoble: Joining late but happy to be checking out #prodmgmttalk ... 11 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm11:32 brainmates: @barrypaquet PMs need to know ask the right questions #prodmgmttalkpm11:32 KirstenLester: @barrypaquet I agree... the answers can evolve over time. Teams can be starved for vision, notpm necessarily answers. #prodmgmttalk11:32 brainmates: @JanelleTNoble Welcome to our chat! Thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:32 sehlhorst: @cindyfsolomon neither - trick question. apples marketing is positioning with a Heisenberg affectpm on the market #prodmgmttalk11:33 Macmyday: @sehlhorst Still do. At same time, #invention needs to be more focussed on. #prodmgmttalkpm11:33 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @JanelleTNoble discussing questions here: http://on.fb.me/dF6V1A #prodmgmttalkpm11:33 brainmates: @KirstenLester Welcome Kirsten. Thanks for joining! #prodmgmttalkpm11:33 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @KirstenLester #prodmgmttalkpm11:33 stacymonarko: @cindyfsolomon Innovative - IMHO I can go around creating really cool features but its onlypm innovative when it answers a need #prodmgmttalk11:33 Brioneja: @rcauvin Unfortunately many companies read that and then adopted Stage Gate with drasticpm consequences #prodmgmttalk11:33 bdoctor: @ProdMgmtTalk Foster innovation by listening to the market (not only customers) seekingpm unfilled needs #prodmgmttalk @jidoctor stock answer11:33 rcauvin: Hi @Janelletnoble. Welcome to the chat! #prodmgmttalkpm11:34 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @jidoctor ! #prodmgmttalkpm11:34 sehlhorst: RT @stacymonarko:IMHO I can go around creating really cool features but its only innovativepm when it answers a need #prodmgmttalk11:34 Macmyday: @cindyfsolomon They have definitely instilled the notion that what they do is what people want.pm #prodmgmttalk11:34 KirstenLester: @stacymonarko @cindyfsolomon when it answers a need... and market is willing to paypm #prodmgmttalk11:34 ProdMgmtTalk: Moving on to Q3. What is the relationship between requirements and innovation? #prodmgmttalkpm 12 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:35 ProdMgmtTalk: .@jidoctor are you here lurking? (dont mean to call you out, but we enjoy your insights!)pm #prodmgmttalk11:35 tmztmobile: @cindyfsolomon etc. On aapl, the need was for a product that actually met the need, the firstpm tablet worth having fr instance #prodmgmttalk11:35 Macmyday: @stacymonarko @cindyfsolomon LOL, well spotted. #prodmgmttalkpm11:35 rcauvin: Q3: A requirement defines a problem in terms of the conditions indicating itspm absence.http://bit.ly/bZCyAg #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt11:36 Brioneja: @stacymonarko @cindyfsolomon I agree! Innovation has to be tied to value delivered which ispm tied to desirability and need #prodmgmttalk11:36 PGopalan: @brainmates by observing, listening, learning, collaborating and more. No eureka moment there.pm A synthetic process #prodmgmttalk11:36 stacymonarko: Q:3 The product manager is responsible for confirming the requirements meet the customerspm unmet need #prodmgmttalk11:36 sehlhorst: A3: requirements = half of innovation. requirements + invention = innovation #prodmgmttalkpm11:36 jidoctor: @ProdMgmtTalk yes, or at least i was trying to lurk.. also trying to multitask but just couldnt bepm left out ;-) #prodmgmttalk11:36 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @tmztmobile ! point taken - Aapl recognized the need before the customer knew itpm wanted it #prodmgmttalk11:36 Macmyday: RT @stacymonarko: @cindyfsolomon Innovative - IMHO I can go around creating really coolpm features but its only innovative when it answers a need #prodmgmttalk11:36 brainmates: @PGopalan Thanks for sharing #prodmgmttalkpm11:36 sehlhorst: @jidoctor welcome! #prodmgmttalkpm11:37 rcauvin: So a requirement is only "innovative" insofar as it yields new insight on a problem.pm #prodmgmttalk11:37 bdoctor: RT @sehlhorst: A3: requirements = half of innovation. requirements + invention = innovationpm #prodmgmttalk11:37 brainmates: @jidoctor Thanks for joining! #prodmgmttalkpm11:37 KirstenLester: @ProdMgmtTalk - obviously depends on orgs definition of "rqmts" :-) #prodmgmttalkpm11:37 cindyfsolomon: PMs are not afraid to be found out when they are lurking! #prodmgmttalk 13 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm11:37 jidoctor: but, isnt that the role of a reqt? to yield new insight. if so, is it truly innovative? #prodmgmttalkpm11:37 rcauvin: Once we start into innovative *solutions*, were no longer in the realm of requirements.pm #prodmgmttalk#prodmgmt11:37 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @jidoctor: but, isnt that the role of a reqt? to yield new insight. if so, is it truly innovative?pm #prodmgmttalk11:37 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk Innovation can relate to the requirements or the process behind gathering them.pm #prodmgmttalk11:37 sehlhorst: RT @KirstenLester: @ProdMgmtTalk - obviously depends on orgs definition of "rqmts" :-)pm #prodmgmttalk11:38 stacymonarko: Q:3 We should ensure that reqmnts r met while delivering a 1 of a kind solution that no one elsepm can provide. #prodmgmttalk11:38 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk Innovation can relate to the requirements or the processpm behind gathering them. #prodmgmttalk11:38 jidoctor: are reqts were we want or should innovate? isnt the soln to the market problem where innovationpm will have the most impact? #prodmgmttalk11:38 cindyfsolomon: RT @stacymonarko: Q:3 We should ensure that reqmnts r met while delivering a 1 of a kindpm solution that no one else can provide. #prodmgmttalk11:38 cindyfsolomon: RT @Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk Innovation can relate to the requirements or the processpm behind gathering them. #prodmgmttalk11:38 bdoctor: Some innovations are dreamt up and confirmed or tweaked by talking with the marketpm #prodmgmttalk11:38 roadmapwarrior: maybe creating a need = pursuing a cos biz reqs that dont contradict mkt reqs & that the mkt ispm willing to buy #prodmgmttalk11:38 Brioneja: @rcauvin The definition of the requirements sets in place the type of solution that you will getpm #prodmgmttalk11:39 Brioneja: @rcauvin In a similar manner, the type of process you use to manage innovation sets in place thepm type of innovation you get #prodmgmttalk11:39 bdoctor: Isnt part of requirements gathering = dreaming and figuring out what is possible + cost effectivepm #prodmgmttalk ?11:39 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @roadmapwarrior: maybe creating a need =pursuing a cos biz reqs dont contradict mkt reqs &pm that the mkt is willing to buy #prodmgmttalk11:39 rcauvin: Part of #prodmgmt role in enabling innovation is to define requirements in solution-neutralpm manner for designers to innnovate. #prodmgmttalk 14 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:39 cindyfsolomon: RT @Brioneja: @rcauvin In a similar manner, the type of process you use to manage innovationpm sets in place the type of innovation you get #prodmgmttalk11:40 jidoctor: @Brioneja exactly. so if the reqts drive the soln, isnt that the innovation source? #prodmgmttalk.pm reqts become the method for achieving11:40 sehlhorst: @Brioneja agreeed. or said another way - the innovation approach you take constrains thepm innovations you can make #prodmgmttalk11:40 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @rcauvin #prodmgmt role in enabling innovation to define requirements in solution-neutralpm manner 4 designers 2 innnovate. #prodmgmttalk11:40 brainmates: RT @rcauvin:Part of #prodmgmt role in enabling innovation is 2 define reqs in solution-neutralpm manner 4 designers 2 innnovate. #prodmgmttalk11:40 barrypaquet: Innovation --- you cant create it, you need to deliver it (implies validation). #prodmgmttalkpm11:40 roadmapwarrior: RT @Brioneja ...the type of process you use to manage innovation sets in place the type ofpm innovation you get #prodmgmttalk11:40 sehlhorst: RT @rcauvin: pdm role in enabling #innovation is to define requirements in solution-neutralpm manner for designers to innnovate. #prodmgmttalk11:41 stacymonarko: RT @barrypaquet: Innovation --- you cant create it, you need to deliver it (implies validation).pm #prodmgmttalk11:41 jidoctor: #prodmktg role in innovation is to understand the buyer response & position message to reach thatpm #prodmgmttalk11:41 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @jidoctor @Brioneja exactly. if reqts drive soln, isnt that innovation source? reqts becomepm method 4 achieving #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk11:41 brainmates: RT @barrypaquet: Innovation --- you cant create it, you need to deliver it (implies validation).pm #prodmgmt#prodmgmttalk11:41 lmckeogh: Q3: would it be too simple to say that innovation is the what & requirements are the howpm #prodmgmttalk11:41 Brioneja: @jidoctor Innovation is a combination of requirements that deliver value and the invention thatpm meets them #prodmgmttalk11:41 KirstenLester: @rcauvin -- well said.. "enabling innovation - define rqmts in solution-neutral manner" Im thepm mkt beat reporter. Simple. #prodmgmttalk11:41 kseniacoffman: @sehlhorst PDM = product dev manager? #prodmgmttalkpm11:41 brainmates: @lmckeogh Welcome and thanks for joining #prodmgmttalkpm11:41 tmztmobile: @jidoctor is reqmnt same as potential feature? The innovation could still be in *how* its met, is 15 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm that #prodmgmt job? #prodmgmttalk11:42 sehlhorst: @lmckeogh hey larry, welcome! #prodmgmttalkpm11:42 ProdMgmtTalk: Welcome @lmckeogh #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:42 stacymonarko: I like. RT @lmckeogh: Q3: would it be too simple to say that innovation is the what &pm requirements are the how #prodmgmttalk11:42 jidoctor: RT @sehlhorst: @lmckeogh hey larry, welcome! #prodmgmttalk (nice to see you here!)pm11:42 ProdMgmtTalk: @tmztmobile @jidoctor is reqmnt same as potential feature? Subject matter for an entire topic ofpm discussion! #prodmgmttalk11:42 rcauvin: @tmztmobile IMO, requirement is not a potential feature, but can be realized via features thatpm designers choose. #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt11:42 sehlhorst: @tmztmobile no! - feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a solution, not a needpm #prodmgmttalk11:43 michaelrhopkin: @rcauvin Love your def of requirements, esp. point 2 #prodmgmttalk Love that you wrote thatpm post in 05! Principles stand the test of time11:43 Brioneja: @tmztmobile @jidoctor A requirement is tied to a need. A feature is how the offering meets thepm requirement. #prodmgmttalk11:43 KirstenLester: @lmckeogh "rqmts are the how"... which is why is really makes a diff how the org views rqmts.pm Isnt "how" the solution then? #prodmgmttalk11:43 sehlhorst: @kseniacoffman Pdm = product manager - some folks use that to avoid confusion withpm pm=proJect manager #prodmgmttalk11:43 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @sehlhorst: @tmztmobile no! - feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a solution, not apm need #prodmgmttalk11:43 brainmates: RT @sehlhorst: @tmztmobile no! - feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a solution, not apm need.Agree! #prodmgmttalk11:43 bdoctor: RT @barrypaquet: Innovation --- you cant create it, you need to deliver it (implies validation).pm #prodmgmttalk11:43 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Brioneja: @tmztmobile @jidoctor A requirement is tied to a need. A feature is how thepm offering meets the requirement #prodmgmttalk11:43 rcauvin: @lmckeogh Explain! #prodmgmttalkpm11:43 brainmates: RT @Brioneja: @tmztmobile @jidoctor A requirement is tied to a need. A feature is how thepm offering meets the req. #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk 16 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:43 lmckeogh: Glad to finally catch at the least the tail end of one #prodmgmttalkpm11:44 roadmapwarrior: @tmztmobile IMO: req should precede feature def, the same req of sustain health -> features ofpm food, exercise, etc. #prodmgmttalk11:44 Brioneja: @lmckeogh I do not see requirements as the how. Requirements are the target. #prodmgmttalkpm11:44 ProdMgmtTalk: @lmckeogh glad to have you join us! #prodmgmttalkpm11:44 brainmates: Any other lurkers? Please do join in #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:44 rcauvin: @michaelrhopkin Thanks! Im now warm and fuzzy inside :-) #prodmgmttalkpm11:44 Macmyday: @barrypaquet And that could sometimes mean to get "outside" views. Being to ingrained in day-pm 2-day biz sometimes doesnt help #prodmgmttalk11:44 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Brioneja: @lmckeogh I do not see requirements as the how. Requirements are the target.pm #prodmgmttalk11:45 jidoctor: RT @sehlhorst: @tmztmobile no! feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a sol not a needpm #prodmgmttalk YES!!11:46 ErikaLAndersen: RT @jidoctor: @tmztmobile no! feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a sol not a needpm #prodmgmttalk YES!! #prodmgmttalk11:46 jidoctor: (#prodmgmttalk - you know yall are distracting me to continue from my planned muiltitasking -pm too interesting a thread!)11:47 brainmates: @jidoctor Its only for a few more minutes :) #prodmgmttalkpm11:47 ProdMgmtTalk: @sehlhorst quote: "no! feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a sol not a need"pm retweetable! #prodmgmttalk11:47 stacymonarko: @jidoctor LOL! I can hardly keep up with stream much less multi-task! #prodmgmttalkpm11:47 roadmapwarrior: @jidoctor last week taught me not to multitask during #prodmgmttalk! #prodmgmttalkpm11:47 bdoctor: RT @roadmapwarrior: @jidoctor last week taught me not to multitask during #prodmgmttalk!pm #prodmgmttalk11:48 stacymonarko: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: @sehlhorst quote: "no! feature + requirement = innovation. feature is a solpm not a need" retweetable! #prodmgmttalk11:48 ProdMgmtTalk: Warning! Q4. Does agile product management foster or hinder innovation? #prodmgmttalk 17 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm11:48 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @bdoctor: RT @roadmapwarrior: @jidoctor last week taught me not to multitask duringpm #prodmgmttalk! #prodmgmttalk11:48 Macmyday: RT @rcauvin: Q3: A requirement defines a problem in terms of the conditions indicating itspm absence.http://bit.ly/bZCyAg #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt11:48 roadmapwarrior: are we doing questions 4-6? #prodmgmttalkpm11:48 rcauvin: #agile enables #prodmgmt to uncover unanticipated market problems by demoing solutions topm customers. #prodmgmttalk11:48 jidoctor: @KirstenLester proposes "Lets name "requirement" something else... dev is fixated on "rqmt" aspm a solution" suggestions? #prodmgmttalk11:48 cindyfsolomon: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: Warning! Q4. Does agile product management foster or hinder innovation?pm #prodmgmttalk11:48 brainmates: Only 12 minutes left to chat #agile and #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:48 Brioneja: @ProdMgmtTalk I suspect that this will be a subject of a lot of debate #prodmgmttalkpm11:48 sehlhorst: Q4A1: (real) agile pdm fosters in spite of the pressure (from others) to focus on the short termpm #prodmgmttalk11:48 rcauvin: ... and getting feedback from the customers that lead to innovative insights. #prodmgmttalkpm11:48 cindyfsolomon: RT @ProdMgmtTalk: RT @bdoctor: RT @roadmapwarrior: @jidoctor last week taught me not topm multitask during #prodmgmttalk! #prodmgmttalk11:49 brainmates: @roadmapwarrior The last Q will be Q4 #prodmgmttalkpm11:49 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @sehlhorst: Q4A1: (real) agile pdm fosters in spite of the pressure (from others) to focus onpm the short term #prodmgmttalk11:49 Brioneja: @ProdMgmtTalk My view on agile is that it works very well on incremental or sustainingpm innovations #prodmgmttalk11:49 sehlhorst: RT @rcauvin: #agile enables #prodmgmt to uncover unanticipated market problems by demoingpm solutions to customers. #prodmgmttalk11:49 KirstenLester: @jidoctor In fact, this week we had interesting dialogue on PRD vs MRD. Really?!pm #prodmgmttalk11:49 bdoctor: @roadmapwarrior next week everyone take their ADD meds prior to the session startingpm #prodmgmttalk 18 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:49 Brioneja: @ProdMgmtTalk Does not work in disruptive or new market innovations #prodmgmttalkpm11:49 roadmapwarrior: Q4: if done right it should enable #innovation - the more you learn the better you definepm #prodmgmttalk11:49 brainmates: @sehlhorst @rcauvin This only occurs when we practice #agile well! #prodmgmttalkpm11:49 jidoctor: @rcauvin i hope your innovative insights come from market too, not just customerspm #prodmgmttalk11:50 tmztmobile: Rdmpw, wondering, req is a smthng a cust nds but cant define (sol. neutral??) pm gvs it form aspm innov. and pe imple to feat. #prodmgmttalk11:50 sehlhorst: @Brioneja agree - org bias is towards current customers not not-yet-our customers, which ispm needed for disruption #prodmgmttalk11:50 rcauvin: @roadmapwarrior Good point. #agile helps us learn, which leads to innovation.pm #prodmgmttalk#prodmgmt11:50 bdoctor: RT @paulalexgray: @bdoctor I agree - srt w/ wht the customer wants. but then determine ifpm feasible based on competits #prodmgmttalk11:50 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Brioneja: @ProdMgmtTalk (Agile?) Does not work in disruptive or new market innovationspm #prodmgmttalk11:50 jidoctor: @rcauvin too much emphasis on customer feedback will only have current interested in potentialpm innovation...your mkt is bigger #prodmgmttalk11:50 lmckeogh: @Brioneja @ProdMgmtTalk I would disagree on the disruptive comment cause it foster learningpm IMO >> innovation #prodmgmttalk11:50 stacymonarko: IF - capitalized! RT @roadmapwarrior: Q4: if done right it should enable #innovation - the more upm learn the better u define #prodmgmttalk11:50 darynakulya: RT @brainmates: RT @Brioneja: @tmztmobile @jidoctor A requirement is tied to a need. Apm feature is how the offering meets the req. #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk11:51 bdoctor: RT @jidoctor: @rcauvin i hope your innovative insights come from market too, not justpm customers #prodmgmttalk11:51 barrypaquet: Id like to think all PMs (agile or not) foster #innovation. Agile is just a more conducivepm environment for innovation #prodmgmttalk11:51 sehlhorst: @Brioneja howvr, good pdm will insist on engaging non-customers with prototypes to discoverpm unmet needs #prodmgmttalk11:51 brainmates: @darynakulya Hello and thanks for joining out talk #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:51 Brioneja: @lmckeogh @ProdMgmtTalk All methods lead to learning. But who you talk to and what 19 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm questions you ask fix the outcome #prodmgmttalk11:51 KirstenLester: @Brioneja @ProdMgmtTalk Q4: does agile not work in disruptive/new mkts b/c of fast evolutionpm or unclear mkt needs? explain #prodmgmttalk11:52 ProdMgmtTalk: on skype discussing distinctions between PRDs, MRDs, and MrkTING RDs #prodmgmttalkpm11:52 VFigatelix: @ProdMgmtTalk @brainmates #prodmgmttalk what about distinguishing between little innov (i)pm and big Innov (I)? as PM we do more little i ?11:52 sehlhorst: @KirstenLester neither - because current customers cant tell you how to disrupt, only how topm improve (accd to Christensen) #prodmgmttalk11:53 rcauvin: @jidoctor That always applies to getting insights from customers. The Henry Ford thing.pm #prodmgmttalk#prodmgmt11:53 Brioneja: @KirstenLester Mainly because to set an agile system in place you need to have decided thepm segment where you will focus on #prodmgmttalk11:53 ProdMgmtTalk: distinction betw "disruptive" innovation and other innovation & source of input #prodmgmttalkpm11:53 roadmapwarrior: @ProdMgmtTalk also differentiation between PRDs and deeper functional RDs? #prodmgmttalkpm11:53 brainmates: @VFigatelix What is your definition of a little (i) and a big (i)? #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalkpm11:53 bdoctor: RT @sehlhorst: @KirstenLester neither - because current customers cant tell you how to disrupt,pm only how to improve (accd to Christensen) #prodmgmttalk11:53 sehlhorst: @VFigatelix I think that is the sustaining (incrementally better, same probs) v disruptive (newpm probs or new markets) #prodmgmttalk11:53 brainmates: Hi all we have less than 5 mins before talk ends #prodmgmttalkpm11:53 Brioneja: @KirstenLester Thus you already made decisions that are constraining the outcomepm #prodmgmttalk11:53 tmztmobile: @sehlhorst @Brioneja whats a minimal prototype (as a dev) for that end? On a scale mockup topm production #prodmgmttalk11:53 stacymonarko: @VFigatelix @ProdMgmtTalk @brainmates I dont think we should make a distinction. Sme littlepm innovations have more value #prodmgmttalk11:53 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @sehlhorst @KirstenLester neither because current customers cant tell you how 2 disrupt onlypm how to imprve(acd Christensen) #prodmgmttalk11:54 KirstenLester: @Brioneja ok, I c that. Not in agile org for a while. thx #prodmgmttalkpm 20 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:54 PGopalan: @prodmgmttalk for Q4: agile = process. Innovation = outcome. They can be mutually exclusive.pm #prodmgmttalk11:54 Brioneja: @KirstenLester Thus the need for another process prior to agile to define the best areas ofpm opportunity #prodmgmttalk11:54 cindyfsolomon: This hour is too short for all the great comments & points being made #prodmgmttalkpm11:54 sehlhorst: @tmztmobile minimal prototype - paper wireframe "clickthru" - google for low fidelity prototypepm there is a lot of stuff #prodmgmttalk11:55 brainmates: Join us next week again same time. We are speaking with @saeedwkhan #prodmgmttalkpm11:55 rcauvin: @PGopalan Argument is that one (#agile) *fosters* the other (#innovation).pm #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt11:55 Brioneja: @PGopalan The process you use predetermines the type of innovation you get #prodmgmttalkpm11:55 ProdMgmtTalk: Shucks - coming down to last 5 minutes - hate to stifle innovative discussion... #prodmgmttalkpm11:55 brainmates: RT @PGopalan: @prodmgmttalk for Q4: agile = process. Innovation = outcome. They can bepm mutually exclusive. #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk11:55 sehlhorst: RT @rcauvin: @PGopalan [agrreement] is that one (#agile) *fosters* the other (#innovation).pm #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt #prodmgmttalk11:55 lmckeogh: RT @Brioneja: need for another process prior to agile to define the best areas of opportunitypm [fuzzy front end discovery] #prodmgmttalk11:56 JanelleTNoble: Q4 depends on how its done. #agile development keeps u in tune w/customers but dont ignore apm larger roadmap/vision #prodmgmttalk11:56 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk I think "disruptive" #innovation is only discovered after its goals werepm implemented. Cant c that right away. #prodmgmttalk11:56 ProdMgmtTalk: Last 5 minutes: Q5 What are some examples of things product managers do to stifle innovation?pm #prodmgmttalk11:56 JanelleTNoble: RT @brainmates: Join us next week again same time. We are speaking withpm @saeedwkhan#prodmgmttalk11:56 brainmates: Next weeks topic - Creating an effective #prodmgmt organisation #prodmgmttalkpm11:56 rcauvin: RT @lmckeogh @Brioneja Fundamental prat of #agile is deciding what risks/unknowns to tackle.pm #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmt11:56 brainmates: @JanelleTNoble Hello and thanks for joining us. Come again next week #prodmgmttalk 21 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Timepm11:57 Macmyday: @PGopalan @prodmgmttalk I think there can be innovation in a process too #prodmgmttalkpm11:57 paulalexgray: Product managers (or any part of business) that demands detailed biz cases for disruptive orpm startup ideas can kill innovation #prodmgmttalk11:57 cindyfsolomon: Q5 Answer: not allowing enough time for creative discussion... #prodmgmttalk #prodmgmtpm11:57 sehlhorst: Q5: stifling: a) interlock b) design by committee c) HiPPOs d)current-customer fixationpm e)ignoring not-yet-your-market #prodmgmttalk11:57 roadmapwarrior: Q5: sometimes its saying "no" too soon, and sometimes its saying "yes" too soon! #prodmgmttalkpm11:57 michaelrhopkin: RT @jidoctor: #prodmgmttalk - #1 way orgs & pm stifle innovation? using the words "we cant"pm [MRH] AMEN!11:57 Brioneja: @Macmyday @PGopalan @prodmgmttalk Absolutely!! There is a huge need for improvementspm in the innovation mgmt process #prodmgmttalk11:57 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @michaelrhopkin: RT @jidoctor: #prodmgmttalk - #1 way orgs & pm stifle innovation? usingpm the words "we cant" [MRH] AMEN! #prodmgmttalk11:58 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @roadmapwarrior: Q5: sometimes its saying "no" too soon, and sometimes its saying "yes"pm too soon! #prodmgmttalk11:58 sehlhorst: RT @roadmapwarrior: Q5: sometimes its saying "no" too soon, and sometimes its saying "yes"pm too soon! #prodmgmttalk11:58 ProdMgmtTalk: RT @Brioneja: @Macmyday @PGopalan @prodmgmttalk Absolutely!! There is a huge need forpm improvements in innovation mgmt process #prodmgmttalk11:58 brainmates: @paulalexgray Better to kill idea up front without spending $ if it may not succeedpm #prodmgmttalk11:58 sehlhorst: RT @michaelrhopkin: RT @jidoctor: #prodmgmttalk - #1 way orgs & pm stifle innovation? usingpm the words "we cant" [MRH] AMEN! #prodmgmttalk11:58 bdoctor: Answer Q 5 - weve never done it that way #prodmgmttalkpm11:58 Macmyday: @ProdMgmtTalk Q5:Being caught up in day-2-day biz, forcing #innovation + probably manypm others #prodmgmttalk11:58 brainmates: 2 minutes left - Get your comments out there! #prodmgmttalkpm11:59 rcauvin: #prodmgmt stifles #innovation by pre-emptively designing & not letting designers design.pm #prodmgmttalk 22 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve
  • Transcript from February 28, 2011 Global Product Management Talk Innovation is Just Good Product Management with Roger Cauvin @ProdMgmtTalk Twitter Transcripts & Lists http://bit.ly/htNQju All times are Pacific Time11:59 stacymonarko: RT @sehlhorst: RT @roadmapwarrior: Q5: sometimes its saying "no" too soon, and sometimes itspm saying "yes" too soon! #prodmgmttalk11:59 Brioneja: @Macmyday @PGopalan @prodmgmttalk This is preso I gave on the subject of new innovationpm processes http://slidesha.re/dx3uOS #prodmgmttalk11:59 ProdMgmtTalk: Stay on past hour for Product Management Event promotions, resources and sharing, networking!pm Next week http://bit.ly/gV5xsM #prodmgmttalk11:59 tmztmobile: @sehlhorst hmm, hard to do with b2c on the web vs meeting with potential customers, dont wantpm to step on #prodmgmttalk lv to tk it offline11:59 barrypaquet: The fastest hour on Twitter #prodmgmttalk Thanks @rcauvin !pm11:59 brainmates: RT @rcauvin: #prodmgmt stifles #innovation by pre-emptively designing & not letting designerspm design. #prodmgmttalk11:59 jidoctor: #prodmgmttalk seems that answers to Q5 are about stopping the creative discussions...at any level.pm stop the fear!11:59 jidoctor: RT @barrypaquet: The fastest hour on Twitter #prodmgmttalk Thanks @rcauvin !pm11:59 jidoctor: for next weeks session i agree with @bdoctor: #prodmgmttalk participants need to take theirpm ADD meds prior to the session starting :-)11:59 michaelrhopkin: Conversation is key to improvement. Thanks for the great conversations on #prodmgmttalk all!pm11:59 rcauvin: @barrypaquet Youre welcome. Thanks for joining! #prodmgmttalkpm 23 #ProdMgmtTalk website: http://bit.ly/hmEEe9 RSVP: http://bit.ly/fThgve