CONVERSATIONS
WITH
THE
DIVINE
ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY
CULMINATING PROJECT
NEIL R. HELM
April 26, 2013
EACH BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT,
&
NDE IS UNIQUE
BUT
WE ARE ALL EQUAL
IN THE EYES OF GOD
NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE
DEFINITION—IANDS
“A LUCID EXPERIENCE ASSOCIATED WITH
PERCEIVED CONSCIOUSNESS APART FROM
THE BODY, OC...
NDE DEFINITION
BRUCE GREYSON, MD
“PROFOUND PSYCHOLOGICAL
EVENTS WITH TRANSCENDAL AND
MYSTICAL ELEMENTS, ESPECIALLY
OCCURIN...
DEFINITION– NDE PROCESS
KENNETH RING Ph.D.
PEACE, SENSE OF WELL BEING, NO PAIN
CLUES OF DYING, OUT-OF-BODY, TRAVELS
THRU T...
ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS BURIED
THEIR DEAD FOR A JOURNEY
CLASSIC HINDU TEXT
RIG VEDA
1500 BC
EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD
EARLY CHRISTIAN TEXTS
St. AUGUSTINE
AND ORIGEN
INCLUDED THE
DOCTRINE OF
REINCARNATION
--------------------------------WRIT...
THE EUROPEAN PLAGUE GREATLY INCREASED
THE CONCEPT OF DEATH AND DYING
UNCERTAINTY
OF
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN

LIFE AFTER DEATH
TODAY’S DEATH & DYING
IS
DRIVEN BY FEAR AND GREED
ELIZABETH KUBLER-ROSS
RAYMOND MOODY
Ph.D. MD
LIFE AFTER LIFE
FIRST CONTEMPORY
BOOK
ON

NEAR-DEATH
EXPERIENCES
1975
MOODY’S 15 AFTER EFFECTS
1. INEFFABILITY -- WORDS CANNOT DEFINE

2. SENSING YOUR DYING OR DEATH
3. FEELINGS OF PEACE & QUI...
APPROXIMATELY
45 %
OF ALL NDEs
EXPERIENCE
TRAVELLING
THROUGH
THE
TUNNEL
TO THE
LIGHT
6. OUTSIDE OF YOUR BODY
7. MEETING “SPIRITUAL BEINGS”
8. BRIGHT LIGHT “BEING OF LIGHT”
9. A PANORAMIC LIFE REVIEW
10. SENS...
BEINGS
WITH

HALF

DIVINE

NEARLY

COMMUNICATE
OF ALL

NDEs

NDES

OF ALL

HALF

WITH
DIVINE
BEINGS

NEARLY

COMMUNICATE
11. RETURNING TO YOUR BODY
12. DIFFICULITY IN SHARING EXPERIENCE
13. YOUR LIFE IS PROFOUNDLY CHANGED
14. NO FEAR OF DEATH
...
11. RETURNING TO YOUR BODY
12. DIFFICULITY IN SHARING EXPERIENCE
13. YOUR LIFE IS PROFOUNDLY CHANGED
14. NO FEAR OF DEATH
...
VIVID MEMORY OF NDE
OTHERS—RING, GREYSON, ATWATER
16. ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS
17. ONENESS WITH GOD
18. >SPIRITUAL -- <RELIGIOUS

19. UNIVERSAL LO...
KNOWING ALL (OR MORE) KNOWLEDGE
THE
HEART
IS ALSO
INVOLVED
IN
GATHERING
INFORMATION
“INNER
KNOWING”
”
OTHERS—RING, GREYSON, ATWATER
16. ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS
17. ONENESS WITH GOD

18. >SPIRITUAL -- <RELIGIOUS
19. UNIVERSAL LO...
ONENESS WITH GOD
OTHERS—RING, GREYSON, ATWATER
16. ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS
17. ONENESS WITH GOD
18. >SPIRITUAL -- <RELIGIOUS

19. UNIVERSAL LO...
KUNDALINI UNLEASHING OF CHAKRA ENERGY
MY

NEAR-DEATH
EXPERIENCE
SUMMER 1944
AGE 5
AU CULMINATING PROJECT

QUESTIONER
STATISTICS
E-mail Questioners sent:

118

E-mail Questioners received: 45
QUESTIONNAIRE
NUMBER

1.

CURRENT AGE

NDE AGE

ACCIDENT ILLNESS

OTHER

2. NDE—MEEETING A DIVINITY
3. TOLD/CHOOSE TO RETU...
GENDER OF QUESTIONERS

Males

Females

8

18%

37

82%
AVERAGE AGE OF QUESTIONER 62
AGE SUMMARY:
0-19

0

20-29

1

2.2 %

30-39

0

0 %

40-49

2

4.4 %

50-59

10

22 %

60-69...
AVERAGE AGE OF NDE

(FIRST) 26

AGE SUMMARY:

0-9
8
18%
(EARLIEST AGE 3, ONE 4, AND TWO AGED 5)
10-19
10
22%
20-29
10
22%
...
REASON FOR NDE
ILLNESS

20 44.4%

ACCIDENT 14 31%
OTHER

11 24.4%

OTHER -- (2) GIVING
BIRTH,
(2) SUICIDES, (2)
OVERDOSE,
...
COMMUNICATIONS, MESSAGES, INNER FEELINGS, FROM:

LIGHT KNOWLEDGE GOD CHRIST ANGELS SPIRIT GUIDES

7

8

15.5%

17.7%

5

1...
COMMUNICATIONS, MESSAGES, INNER FEELINGS, CONT.

COUNCIL OF ELDERS FAMILY FRIEND OLD SOLDERS UNKNOWN NONE

2

2

6

1

4.4...
LIGHT
7
15%

n=45

KNOWLEDGE GOD CHRIST
8
17%

5
11%

21 QUESTIONNAIRS

1
2%

47%

*COMMUNICATE WITH THE DIVINE*
ANGELS SPIRITS CNCIL OF ELDERS
6
2
2
13.3%

4.4%

4.4%

n=45 10 Questioners 22%
COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER BEINGS
FAMILY
2
4.4%

n=45

FRIEND(S) OLD SOLDERS
6
13.3%

1
2.2%

9 QUESTIONNAIRES

20%

COMMUNICATE WITH HUMANS
PASSED OVER
UNKNOWN
4
8.8%
n=45

QUESTIONNAIRES

8.8%

COMMUNICATED WITH
UNKNOWN BEINGS
NONE — NO COMMUNICATIONS
1
n=45
1 QUESTIONNAIRE 2.2%
ONLY 1 QUESTIONNAIRE

CHECKED NO BOX
NO COMMUNICATIONS
DURING NDE
QUESTIONNAIRES TOLD

TO RETURN TO THEIR BODY
n=45

Yes – 34 – 76%
No – 11 – 24%
QUESTIONNAIRES CHANGES AFTER NDE

CHOOSE TRANSPERSONAL JOBS, LIFESTYLES

n=45

YES -- 26 -- 58%

NO -- 19 -- 42%
(BASED ON...
TRANSPERSONAL
LIFESTYLES
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Conversations with the Divine

  1. 1. CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIVINE ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY CULMINATING PROJECT NEIL R. HELM April 26, 2013
  2. 2. EACH BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT, & NDE IS UNIQUE BUT WE ARE ALL EQUAL IN THE EYES OF GOD
  3. 3. NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE DEFINITION—IANDS “A LUCID EXPERIENCE ASSOCIATED WITH PERCEIVED CONSCIOUSNESS APART FROM THE BODY, OCCCURING AT THE TIME OF ACTUAL OR THREATENED IMMINENT DEATH.”
  4. 4. NDE DEFINITION BRUCE GREYSON, MD “PROFOUND PSYCHOLOGICAL EVENTS WITH TRANSCENDAL AND MYSTICAL ELEMENTS, ESPECIALLY OCCURING TO INDIVIDUALS CLOSE TO DEATH OR IN SITUATIONS OF INTENSE PHYSICALLY OR EMOTIONAL DANGER’’
  5. 5. DEFINITION– NDE PROCESS KENNETH RING Ph.D. PEACE, SENSE OF WELL BEING, NO PAIN CLUES OF DYING, OUT-OF-BODY, TRAVELS THRU TUNNEL, HIGH LEVEL OF ALERTNESS, MEETS AND SPEAKS TO PRESENCE, OFTEN DIVINE IN NATURE, DECIDES OR IS TOLD TO RETURN TO YOUR BODY “IT IS NOT YOUR TIME”
  6. 6. ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS BURIED THEIR DEAD FOR A JOURNEY
  7. 7. CLASSIC HINDU TEXT RIG VEDA 1500 BC
  8. 8. EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD
  9. 9. EARLY CHRISTIAN TEXTS St. AUGUSTINE AND ORIGEN INCLUDED THE DOCTRINE OF REINCARNATION --------------------------------WRITTEN OUT OF THE BIBLE BY JUSTINIAN COUNCIL OF CONSTANTINOPLE 553 AD
  10. 10. THE EUROPEAN PLAGUE GREATLY INCREASED THE CONCEPT OF DEATH AND DYING
  11. 11. UNCERTAINTY OF JUDEO-CHRISTIAN LIFE AFTER DEATH
  12. 12. TODAY’S DEATH & DYING IS DRIVEN BY FEAR AND GREED
  13. 13. ELIZABETH KUBLER-ROSS
  14. 14. RAYMOND MOODY Ph.D. MD LIFE AFTER LIFE FIRST CONTEMPORY BOOK ON NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES 1975
  15. 15. MOODY’S 15 AFTER EFFECTS 1. INEFFABILITY -- WORDS CANNOT DEFINE 2. SENSING YOUR DYING OR DEATH 3. FEELINGS OF PEACE & QUIET 4. HEARING UNUSUAL NOISE 5. SEEING A DARK TUNNEL
  16. 16. APPROXIMATELY 45 % OF ALL NDEs EXPERIENCE TRAVELLING THROUGH THE TUNNEL TO THE LIGHT
  17. 17. 6. OUTSIDE OF YOUR BODY 7. MEETING “SPIRITUAL BEINGS” 8. BRIGHT LIGHT “BEING OF LIGHT” 9. A PANORAMIC LIFE REVIEW 10. SENSING A LIMIT TO WHERE TO GO
  18. 18. BEINGS WITH HALF DIVINE NEARLY COMMUNICATE OF ALL NDEs NDES OF ALL HALF WITH DIVINE BEINGS NEARLY COMMUNICATE
  19. 19. 11. RETURNING TO YOUR BODY 12. DIFFICULITY IN SHARING EXPERIENCE 13. YOUR LIFE IS PROFOUNDLY CHANGED 14. NO FEAR OF DEATH 15. VIVID MEMORY OF EXPERIENCE
  20. 20. 11. RETURNING TO YOUR BODY 12. DIFFICULITY IN SHARING EXPERIENCE 13. YOUR LIFE IS PROFOUNDLY CHANGED 14. NO FEAR OF DEATH 15. VIVID MEMORY OF EXPERIENCE
  21. 21. VIVID MEMORY OF NDE
  22. 22. OTHERS—RING, GREYSON, ATWATER 16. ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS 17. ONENESS WITH GOD 18. >SPIRITUAL -- <RELIGIOUS 19. UNIVERSAL LOVE
  23. 23. KNOWING ALL (OR MORE) KNOWLEDGE
  24. 24. THE HEART IS ALSO INVOLVED IN GATHERING INFORMATION “INNER KNOWING” ”
  25. 25. OTHERS—RING, GREYSON, ATWATER 16. ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS 17. ONENESS WITH GOD 18. >SPIRITUAL -- <RELIGIOUS 19. UNIVERSAL LOVE 20. SERVICE TO OTHERS
  26. 26. ONENESS WITH GOD
  27. 27. OTHERS—RING, GREYSON, ATWATER 16. ALL KNOWLEDGE EXISTS 17. ONENESS WITH GOD 18. >SPIRITUAL -- <RELIGIOUS 19. UNIVERSAL LOVE
  28. 28. KUNDALINI UNLEASHING OF CHAKRA ENERGY
  29. 29. MY NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE SUMMER 1944 AGE 5
  30. 30. AU CULMINATING PROJECT QUESTIONER STATISTICS E-mail Questioners sent: 118 E-mail Questioners received: 45
  31. 31. QUESTIONNAIRE NUMBER 1. CURRENT AGE NDE AGE ACCIDENT ILLNESS OTHER 2. NDE—MEEETING A DIVINITY 3. TOLD/CHOOSE TO RETURN 4. AFTER AFFECTS OF NDE
  32. 32. GENDER OF QUESTIONERS Males Females 8 18% 37 82%
  33. 33. AVERAGE AGE OF QUESTIONER 62 AGE SUMMARY: 0-19 0 20-29 1 2.2 % 30-39 0 0 % 40-49 2 4.4 % 50-59 10 22 % 60-69 28 62 % 4 9 % 70-
  34. 34. AVERAGE AGE OF NDE (FIRST) 26 AGE SUMMARY: 0-9 8 18% (EARLIEST AGE 3, ONE 4, AND TWO AGED 5) 10-19 10 22% 20-29 10 22% 30-39 5 11% 40-49 5 11% 50-59 5 11% 602 4% MULTIPLE NDEs 9 20%
  35. 35. REASON FOR NDE ILLNESS 20 44.4% ACCIDENT 14 31% OTHER 11 24.4% OTHER -- (2) GIVING BIRTH, (2) SUICIDES, (2) OVERDOSE, (2) STRANGLED, FROZE TO
  36. 36. COMMUNICATIONS, MESSAGES, INNER FEELINGS, FROM: LIGHT KNOWLEDGE GOD CHRIST ANGELS SPIRIT GUIDES 7 8 15.5% 17.7% 5 11.1% 1 2.2% 6 13.3% 2 4.4%
  37. 37. COMMUNICATIONS, MESSAGES, INNER FEELINGS, CONT. COUNCIL OF ELDERS FAMILY FRIEND OLD SOLDERS UNKNOWN NONE 2 2 6 1 4.4% 4.4% 13.3% 2.2% 4 8.8% 1 2.2%
  38. 38. LIGHT 7 15% n=45 KNOWLEDGE GOD CHRIST 8 17% 5 11% 21 QUESTIONNAIRS 1 2% 47% *COMMUNICATE WITH THE DIVINE*
  39. 39. ANGELS SPIRITS CNCIL OF ELDERS 6 2 2 13.3% 4.4% 4.4% n=45 10 Questioners 22% COMMUNICATE WITH HIGHER BEINGS
  40. 40. FAMILY 2 4.4% n=45 FRIEND(S) OLD SOLDERS 6 13.3% 1 2.2% 9 QUESTIONNAIRES 20% COMMUNICATE WITH HUMANS PASSED OVER
  41. 41. UNKNOWN 4 8.8% n=45 QUESTIONNAIRES 8.8% COMMUNICATED WITH UNKNOWN BEINGS
  42. 42. NONE — NO COMMUNICATIONS 1 n=45 1 QUESTIONNAIRE 2.2% ONLY 1 QUESTIONNAIRE CHECKED NO BOX NO COMMUNICATIONS DURING NDE
  43. 43. QUESTIONNAIRES TOLD TO RETURN TO THEIR BODY n=45 Yes – 34 – 76% No – 11 – 24%
  44. 44. QUESTIONNAIRES CHANGES AFTER NDE CHOOSE TRANSPERSONAL JOBS, LIFESTYLES n=45 YES -- 26 -- 58% NO -- 19 -- 42% (BASED ON VOLUTARY INFORMATION)
  45. 45. TRANSPERSONAL LIFESTYLES
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